Good freaking Lord...Monster cables

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Sukhoi

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Dec 5, 1999
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Originally posted by: gsethi
Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004
Originally posted by: ppdes
Wish I'd thought of it before Monster did.


Take a simple product.
Create a brand

profit

Examples:
Bose
Monster
any more?

Dasani/Aquafina bottled water

The entire cell phone industry. They created the entire market and now have a strong hold on contracts with ridiculous rates and terms.
 

Slew Foot

Lifer
Sep 22, 2005
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Originally posted by: AmigaMan
I dunno, I swear I can tell a difference. All my Bose speakers have been upgraded with Monster cable and I can definitely hear the difference. I only spent $85 for my 6 foot RCA plugs. The nitrogen-injected oxygen free wires were a bit extra, but I think it was worth the $200 I spent. They were custom made in front of me too which was pretty awesome.

Bet it makes your Noka chocolates taste that much better too huh?

 

YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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Aug 6, 2001
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Originally posted by: jumpr
Who would pay.

People that get told to buy one by the CC / BB / whatever employees

Bought a DVD / VCR combo drive for my dad to hook up to the new receiver + speakers I got him for christmas and the sales guy told us we should get an HDMI cable too. He didn't even ask if our TV had an HDMI input. Naturally I told him we didn't want one, but I figure that's the only way they can make enough profit to have the 11 employees standing around the electronics area asking if we needed help.
 

OutHouse

Lifer
Jun 5, 2000
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what ever happend to Monster sueing other companies with the word "monster" in their name for copywrite infringement?
 

mugs

Lifer
Apr 29, 2003
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Originally posted by: AmigaMan
I dunno, I swear I can tell a difference. All my Bose speakers have been upgraded with Monster cable and I can definitely hear the difference. I only spent $85 for my 6 foot RCA plugs. The nitrogen-injected oxygen free wires were a bit extra, but I think it was worth the $200 I spent. They were custom made in front of me too which was pretty awesome.

Of course you can tell a difference, you spent $200 on them and your brain will tell a difference even if your ears don't. If you really want to see if you can tell the difference, you'd have to do a blind test - 20+ trials and see how often you can identify which cable is being used. You'll probably get it right about half of the time.
 

mugs

Lifer
Apr 29, 2003
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Originally posted by: Sukhoi
Originally posted by: gsethi
Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004
Originally posted by: ppdes
Wish I'd thought of it before Monster did.


Take a simple product.
Create a brand

profit

Examples:
Bose
Monster
any more?

Dasani/Aquafina bottled water

The entire cell phone industry. They created the entire market and now have a strong hold on contracts with ridiculous rates and terms.

Yeah... that's not a good comparison at all. The rates may seem ridiculous, but I wonder how much you'd charge after you've spent billions of dollars building the infrastructure.

You need a product that people will not be able to easily measure whether it is better or not.

i.e. just about any home audio or video product
Just about anything you put in your car
 

Captante

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Oct 20, 2003
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I actually do own a few Monster-cable products that I got for well below cost & they were still not the best deal ... actually the "at-cost" price was a couple bucks higher then Monoprice & other reasonable online venders.
 

ForumMaster

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Feb 24, 2005
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monster cables are better in certain aspect. they will deliver a signal with less cable loss. worth such an increase in price? absolutely not!
 

iliopsoas

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Stop jumping on the anti-Monster bandwagon, newblets.


If you can get Monster cable for real cheap, go for it. Their quality isn't that bad. Paying retail, though, is just plain stupid.

Now, back to our program already in progress...

Monster cables rock!! BOSE FTW!!!!
 

mugs

Lifer
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Originally posted by: ForumMaster
monster cables are better in certain aspect. they will deliver a signal with less cable loss. worth such an increase in price? absolutely not!

Less than what? Of course you can find cables that are worse than Monster cables. The point is that you can get cables of the same quality as Monster cables for far less.
 

jumpr

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: ForumMaster
monster cables are better in certain aspect. they will deliver a signal with less cable loss. worth such an increase in price? absolutely not!
Less than what? Of course you can find cables that are worse than Monster cables. The point is that you can get cables of the same quality as Monster cables for far less.
There's no "loss" with HDMI because it's digital. The cable either gets the bits to the output component or it doesn't.
 

YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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Originally posted by: jumpr
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: ForumMaster
monster cables are better in certain aspect. they will deliver a signal with less cable loss. worth such an increase in price? absolutely not!
Less than what? Of course you can find cables that are worse than Monster cables. The point is that you can get cables of the same quality as Monster cables for far less.
There's no "loss" with HDMI because it's digital. The cable either gets the bits to the output component or it doesn't.

Some would disagree
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=38&threadid=1966446&enterthread=y
 

mugs

Lifer
Apr 29, 2003
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Originally posted by: jumpr
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: ForumMaster
monster cables are better in certain aspect. they will deliver a signal with less cable loss. worth such an increase in price? absolutely not!
Less than what? Of course you can find cables that are worse than Monster cables. The point is that you can get cables of the same quality as Monster cables for far less.
There's no "loss" with HDMI because it's digital. The cable either gets the bits to the output component or it doesn't.

Not entirely true... a digital signal can handle small amounts of interference and loss than an analog signal, because the receiving end only has to distinguish between two possible values instead of infinite values. But a digital signal can still be affected by interference and signal loss, which is why digital signals are often accompanied by error detecting/correcting data.
 

Legend

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Apr 21, 2005
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Originally posted by: iliopsoas
Stop jumping on the anti-Monster bandwagon, newblets.


If you can get Monster cable for real cheap, go for it. Their quality isn't that bad. Paying retail, though, is just plain stupid.

Now, back to our program already in progress...

Monster cables rock!! BOSE FTW!!!!

A digital signal either makes it, or it doesn't. A consumer does not need to care if the signal attenuates somewhat because it'll be very obvious when it doesn't make it. It's not like an analog signal where reducing interference will make the picture a bit crisper. There will be major blurry blocks on the screen because these signals are encoded to minimize data transfer. For example, a screen with a blue sky wouldn't necessarily transfer the exact representation for that shade of blue for each pixel, but rather transmit a differential indicating how one pixel differs from the preceding. In other words, if the cable doesn't work, it's obvious. Therefore, buying a gold plated monster cable for HDMI or fiber optics is an absolute waste of money.

BOSE is crap. Klipsch, JBL, and just about everyone makes better speakers.
 

marincounty

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Sorry to threadcrap, but I couldn't resist. Friends don't let friends buy monster cable (or Bose).

http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2006/12/17/18338281.php
Ho Ho Ho? My vote for the Grinch of year is Noel Lee the Hillsborough Multimillionaire and owner of Monster Cable which laid off some 120 workers just before the holiday season and has contracted out the work to factories in China. Lee had donated $6 million for the naming rights of our beloved SF 49'ers Candlestick Park, now called 'Monster Park' but refuses to meet with or offer a fair settlement with workers that have made his company so profitable over the years.


http://www.insidebayarea.com/sanmateocountytimes/localnews/ci_4802573

BRISBANE ? Noel Lee is living the American dream. Lee's father, Chin-San, was a news correspondent whose work brought him and his wife, Sarah, to San Francisco from China two months before Noel was born.
Fifty-seven years later, Noel Lee resides in Hillsborough and is head of Monster Cable Products, based in Brisbane, and earning more than a $100 million annually as recently as two years ago.
These days, though, the company Lee founded while tinkering with audio cables in his parents' garage has taken some tough belt-tightening measures because of cheap overseas competition. In October, the firm laid off 120 manufacturing workers, most of them Chinese, Latino and Vietnamese immigrants. Lee said in a press conference Thursday that the jobs ironically could end up in Mexico or in China, where Monster has contracted out assembly work for years.

"Our revenue figures are flat," he said at the company's headquarters in Crocker Industrial Park. "We need to focus on the 85 percent of the people who are still here. This is an economic decision we had to make."

Lee told the English- and Mandarin-speaking reporters that Monster is one of the few local manufacturing employers left. Hourly wages for assembly jobs in China are less than a dollar an hour, and wages in Mexico are less than $3, he said ? numbers that jibe with U.S. Federal Reserve estimates.

The figures are little comfort to the workers who were let go as part of the company's top-to-bottom cost-cutting, especially since Monster paid more than $6 million for the naming rights to Candlestick Park through next year.
 

imported_Imp

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Wish I wasn't so impulsive when I payed $30 for 30 feet of 16 gauge Monster speaker wire. Just last week, saw 50 feet of Philips 14 gauge at Wal-mart for $15 or something. Couldn't wait that 1 day...The pisser is that Best Buy and Futureshop mainly stock Monster and hide the cheaper stuff. No wI've got $15 worth of cable sitting on a bookshelf.
 

AmigaMan

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: AmigaMan
I dunno, I swear I can tell a difference. All my Bose speakers have been upgraded with Monster cable and I can definitely hear the difference. I only spent $85 for my 6 foot RCA plugs. The nitrogen-injected oxygen free wires were a bit extra, but I think it was worth the $200 I spent. They were custom made in front of me too which was pretty awesome.

Of course you can tell a difference, you spent $200 on them and your brain will tell a difference even if your ears don't. If you really want to see if you can tell the difference, you'd have to do a blind test - 20+ trials and see how often you can identify which cable is being used. You'll probably get it right about half of the time.

sorry, I was being sarcastic. Just wanted to get a rise out of people here. I actually own an elcheapo JVC receiver, garage sale Infinity bookshelf speakers, and a Costco-bought CRT TV. Ain't no monster or any other brand cable gonna make that look or sound good
 

Extelleron

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Meh, I got my PS3 monster component cables for about $5 more than I would have payed going Madcatz.
 
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