Good "god" arguments!

[Forsythe]

I am a complete atheist, nuff said about me.
Give me arguments on why i should believe. Please keep it trool free (as if ) and make it, "logical arguments."
If you're unsure what a logical argument is? then look here: Wikipedia.org

I will naturally refer from namecalling, of _any_ sorts, and urge you to do the same.
Also, wouldn't it be cool in nobody else than religious ppl posted their arguments, so it wouldn't be a total flame post?

 

[Infohawk]

I've tried. They don't learn.

 

[Aimster]

My theory...

Athiest = stupid
Agnostics = smart
Religious people = lost

All I have to say is if a man claimed he was a prophet/son of god today he would be sent to a mental hospital. If a man claimed it thousands of years ago people would listen.

My theory = my theory .. 99.9% disagree... so don't comment on it.

 

[Czar]

a religous discussion on the internet is as predictable as gravity

 

[Todd33]

"I contend we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."
-Stephen F Roberts

 

[Forsythe]

Originally posted by: Czar
a religous discussion on the internet is as predictable as gravity

Wait wait wait there young man! I'm studying physucs, gravity is predictable We just don't know what it is!

 

[Darthvoy]

Originally posted by: Forsythe
I am a complete atheist, nuff said about me.
Give me arguments on why i should believe. Please keep it trool free (as if ) and make it, "logical arguments."
If you're unsure what a logical argument is? then look here: Wikipedia.org

I will naturally refer from namecalling, of _any_ sorts, and urge you to do the same.
Also, wouldn't it be cool in nobody else than religious ppl posted their arguments, so it wouldn't be a total flame post?

Let me tell you of the Intelligent design argument I learned in my philosophy class. If you think about a mechanical watch, it is obvious it was designed by an intelligent mind. Every part of the watch has its purpose and they all work together to make the whole thing work. If one part is taken out off of the watch it will stop working. Now, if you look at how we are designed, you can make the similar argument. We have billions of cells in our bodies and they all have their specific purpose. If you look at how our bodies break up food and how certain enzymes break up certain types of protein, and how our organs work together to keep us alive, one can conclude that we are of intelligent design. However, this type of argument tells us nothing about out our designer. e.i. whether he is good or bad.

 

[Forsythe]

Originally posted by: Darthvoy

Originally posted by: Forsythe
I am a complete atheist, nuff said about me.
Give me arguments on why i should believe. Please keep it trool free (as if ) and make it, "logical arguments."
If you're unsure what a logical argument is? then look here: Wikipedia.org

I will naturally refer from namecalling, of _any_ sorts, and urge you to do the same.
Also, wouldn't it be cool in nobody else than religious ppl posted their arguments, so it wouldn't be a total flame post?

Let me tell you of the Intelligent design argument I learned in my philosophy class. If you think about a mechanical watch, it is obvious it was designed by an intelligent mind. Every part of the watch has its purpose and they all work together to make the whole thing work. If one part is taken out off of the watch it will stop working. Now, if you look at how we are designed, you can make the similar argument. We have billions of cells in our bodies and they all have their specific purpose. If you look at how our bodies break up food and how certain enzymes break up certain types of protein, and how our organs work together to keep us alive, one can conclude that we are of intelligent design. However, this type of argument tells us nothing about out our designer. e.i. whether he is good or bad.

I don't really see your point, but i don't see why you say it's a creator (the description "Intelligent design2 is used to make the "argument" sound plausible) that created us. With even a little brain-power, you can imagine the way evolution works, apply it to the current physiological view of our body (or any body), and then it all seems to make sense...

 

[upsciLLion]

Originally posted by: Forsythe

Originally posted by: Darthvoy

Originally posted by: Forsythe
I am a complete atheist, nuff said about me.
Give me arguments on why i should believe. Please keep it trool free (as if ) and make it, "logical arguments."
If you're unsure what a logical argument is? then look here: Wikipedia.org

I will naturally refer from namecalling, of _any_ sorts, and urge you to do the same.
Also, wouldn't it be cool in nobody else than religious ppl posted their arguments, so it wouldn't be a total flame post?

Let me tell you of the Intelligent design argument I learned in my philosophy class. If you think about a mechanical watch, it is obvious it was designed by an intelligent mind. Every part of the watch has its purpose and they all work together to make the whole thing work. If one part is taken out off of the watch it will stop working. Now, if you look at how we are designed, you can make the similar argument. We have billions of cells in our bodies and they all have their specific purpose. If you look at how our bodies break up food and how certain enzymes break up certain types of protein, and how our organs work together to keep us alive, one can conclude that we are of intelligent design. However, this type of argument tells us nothing about out our designer. e.i. whether he is good or bad.

I don't really see your point, but i don't see why you say it's a creator (the description "Intelligent design2 is used to make the "argument" sound plausible) that created us. With even a little brain-power, you can imagine the way evolution works, apply it to the current physiological view of our body (or any body), and then it all seems to make sense...

Until you start thinking about the numbers behind the probability of things falling into place on their own.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Forsythe
I am a complete atheist, nuff said about me.
Give me arguments on why i should believe.

The abovestatement gives me a reason not to comply with the above request.

I think god is something personal enough that no one is going to convince you of its existance.

 

[MikeMike]

grabs a
lay-z-boy recliner.
24 pack
beer bong
toilet
computer
newspaper
sun glasses
cell phone for 911
fire proof suit
shower
popcorn
pj's
week worth of clothing

now i should be ready.

MIKE

 

[lavagirl669]

believe in what you want to believe

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

Originally posted by: upsciLLion

Originally posted by: Forsythe

Originally posted by: Darthvoy

Originally posted by: Forsythe
I am a complete atheist, nuff said about me.
Give me arguments on why i should believe. Please keep it trool free (as if ) and make it, "logical arguments."
If you're unsure what a logical argument is? then look here: Wikipedia.org

I will naturally refer from namecalling, of _any_ sorts, and urge you to do the same.
Also, wouldn't it be cool in nobody else than religious ppl posted their arguments, so it wouldn't be a total flame post?

Let me tell you of the Intelligent design argument I learned in my philosophy class. If you think about a mechanical watch, it is obvious it was designed by an intelligent mind. Every part of the watch has its purpose and they all work together to make the whole thing work. If one part is taken out off of the watch it will stop working. Now, if you look at how we are designed, you can make the similar argument. We have billions of cells in our bodies and they all have their specific purpose. If you look at how our bodies break up food and how certain enzymes break up certain types of protein, and how our organs work together to keep us alive, one can conclude that we are of intelligent design. However, this type of argument tells us nothing about out our designer. e.i. whether he is good or bad.

I don't really see your point, but i don't see why you say it's a creator (the description "Intelligent design2 is used to make the "argument" sound plausible) that created us. With even a little brain-power, you can imagine the way evolution works, apply it to the current physiological view of our body (or any body), and then it all seems to make sense...

Until you start thinking about the numbers behind the probability of things falling into place on their own.

and then you realize how long the universe has measurably been around. Don't tell me your young earth stuff either. All the stuff I've read on it has been pure BS.

The first spark of life was the hard part. After that survival loaded the dice. When you look at all the galaxies and all the starts and all the planets it's not surprising that the dice came up "life" in atleast one of the cases.

 

[kermalou]

then how can you explain the internet to me?

if god didn't create it, then who did?

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: kermalou
then how can you explain the internet to me?

if god didn't create it, then who did?

Men desperate for easy access to pornography.

 

[Schadenfroh]

you might find this article of interest

The Biological Roots of Religion
Is Faith in Our Genes?

 

[Davegod75]

i would def recommend this book: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obi...p;s=books&n=507846

 

[phreakah]

Originally posted by: kermalou
then how can you explain the internet to me?

if god didn't create it, then who did?

Al Gore did of course

 

[Kipper]

Originally posted by: Darthvoy

Originally posted by: Forsythe
I am a complete atheist, nuff said about me.
Give me arguments on why i should believe. Please keep it trool free (as if ) and make it, "logical arguments."
If you're unsure what a logical argument is? then look here: Wikipedia.org

I will naturally refer from namecalling, of _any_ sorts, and urge you to do the same.
Also, wouldn't it be cool in nobody else than religious ppl posted their arguments, so it wouldn't be a total flame post?

Let me tell you of the Intelligent design argument I learned in my philosophy class. If you think about a mechanical watch, it is obvious it was designed by an intelligent mind. Every part of the watch has its purpose and they all work together to make the whole thing work. If one part is taken out off of the watch it will stop working. Now, if you look at how we are designed, you can make the similar argument. We have billions of cells in our bodies and they all have their specific purpose. If you look at how our bodies break up food and how certain enzymes break up certain types of protein, and how our organs work together to keep us alive, one can conclude that we are of intelligent design. However, this type of argument tells us nothing about out our designer. e.i. whether he is good or bad.

The problem is that the watch is designed for a specific purpose in mind, whereas human beings are not - evolution is NOT a goal-seeking occurrence. ID theory is just creationism rebadged. Moreover, any person who assumes that complexity inherently means the existence of a creator is simply deluded.

 

[Kipper]

Originally posted by: Davegod75
i would def recommend this book: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obi...mp/102-9345622-9351312

I've read that book and it is by far one of the most dry, tasteless books I've read. The problem is that it is a bunch of radio shows compiled into a book, rather than a narrative.

 

[imported_theEman]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: kermalou
then how can you explain the internet to me?

if god didn't create it, then who did?

Men desperate for easy access to pornography.

:thumbsup:

 

[Mucho]

Originally posted by: Aimster
My theory...

Athiest =lost
Agnostics = smart
Religious people = stupid

All I have to say is if a man claimed he was a prophet/son of god today he would be sent to a mental hospital. If a man claimed it thousands of years ago people would listen.

My theory = my theory .. 99.9% disagree... so don't comment on it.

Fixed

 

[Forsythe]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: Forsythe
I am a complete atheist, nuff said about me.
Give me arguments on why i should believe.

The abovestatement gives me a reason not to comply with the above request.

I think god is something personal enough that no one is going to convince you of its existance.

Belief to me is ignorance, but that doesn't matter, i'm just trying to see if religious people have any reason for their belief! And why does that make you not want to post? I don't follow!

But well, i'm off to watch "The Terminator", i hope there are more posts when i return!

 

[element]

Originally posted by: Forsythe

Originally posted by: Czar
a religous discussion on the internet is as predictable as gravity

Wait wait wait there young man! I'm studying physucs, gravity is predictable We just don't know what it is!

Yes we do, study more.

 

[Mo0o]

Ugh not this crap again. Just do a search