Dude, real life is filled with off-duty action heroes--just like in the movies! Why would you ever believe otherwise?
I remember people claiming that the Aurora shooting could have been prevented if a few people in the audience had guns.
Because yeah, the one thing that shooting needed to limit the death toll was more people firing guns off in a dark, crowded, noisy, panicked theater.
Dude, real life is filled with off-duty action heroes--just like in the movies! Why would you ever believe otherwise?
I would have stopped the shooting by flying sideways with a pistol in each hand.
Shit just got realI would have stopped the shooting by flying sideways with a pistol in each hand.
Good guys with guns stop crimes tens of thousands of times a year and are not shot by the cops. This is a very unfortunate outcome in this case.
Wait, wait, wait.Good guys with guns stop crimes tens of thousands of times a year and are not shot by the cops. This is a very unfortunate outcome in this case.
Got any evidence Trump Jr??Good guys with guns stop crimes tens of thousands of times a year and are not shot by the cops. This is a very unfortunate outcome in this case.
Good guys with guns stop crimes tens of thousands of times a year and are not shot by the cops. This is a very unfortunate outcome in this case.
Wait, wait, wait.
Ten thousand times a year is about 30 times a day. Why have I never heard of any of these instances?!
You would think at least one of these would have popped up in my local news at some point in the last year!
Wait, wait, wait.
Ten thousand times a year is about 30 times a day. Why have I never heard of any of these instances?!
You would think at least one of these would have popped up in my local news at some point in the last year!
Results—Even after excluding many reported firearm victimizations, far more survey respondents report having been threatened or intimidated with a gun than having used a gun to protect themselves. A majority of the reported self defense gun uses were rated as probably illegal by a majority of judges. This was so even under the assumption that the respondent had a permit to own and carry the gun, and that the respondent had described the event honestly.
Care to provide the source of your claim? Cause that sounds like pure bullshit. Let us think about this logically for a second (I know that may be difficult for you), but I doubt very much that guns are used defensively in even 5% of gun related incidents. Assuming it was 5%, that means we have 200,000 gun related incidents a year. And that is also going by the least amount of people who stop crimes being in the low "tens of thousands" (10,000).
Your source of information seems to be about as good as the Donalds.
Also, you said they stop crimes. So not only was the gun used defensively (which will be rare), but they used those guns effectively to stop the crime from happening. Yeah right, champ.
Got any evidence Trump Jr??
liar.
Guys, this isn't a secret. I thought for sure for people with such strong anti-gun stances you'd know the facts. Even P&N's very own elite troll fskiompsy admits that this is the case, that guns are used defensively to stop crime literally tens of thousands of times a year.
Yep, like that recent incident at the McD's in Minnesota or the one with the kids on bikes in FL, where a "good guy" pulls his gun on unarmed persons who weren't actually threatening him. Sorry, that's not self-defense, it's brandishing. And it's a crime.Basically all of the estimates of gun use to stop crime comes from surveying gun owners. Here's the fun part - not only are their claims clearly wildly inflated, when judges examined the stories they told about their gun use to stop crimes it turned out in more than half the cases it was the gun owner's actions that were criminal. ie: they weren't stopping crimes, they were causing even more crimes.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1730664/
Basically all of the estimates of gun use to stop crime comes from surveying gun owners. Here's the fun part - not only are their claims clearly wildly inflated, when judges examined the stories they told about their gun use to stop crimes it turned out in more than half the cases it was the gun owner's actions that were criminal. ie: they weren't stopping crimes, they were causing even more crimes.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1730664/
A slightly different take on crime safety and gun ownership. Written in this centry
https://www.latimes.com/opinion/opinion-la/la-ol-guns-self-defense-charleston-20150619-story.html
Wait, wait, wait.
Ten thousand times a year is about 30 times a day. Why have I never heard of any of these instances?!
You would think at least one of these would have popped up in my local news at some point in the last year!
Also, you said they stop crimes. So not only was the gun used defensively (which will be rare), but they used those guns effectively to stop the crime from happening. Yeah right, champ.
Got any evidence Trump Jr??
liar.
it's a liberal gun-grabber conspiracy that keeps this information from you.
....and I'm not even joking. That is literally the propaganda you get in NRA gun magazines and conservative free state ammosexual rags, that born dumbasses like Slowspyder suck up without question as if they were federal blue state hand-out cash.
The violence policy center has exactly one purpose: to ban all guns completely. Here is some of their research showing that defensive gun uses are likely in the 10s of thousands per year: http://www.vpc.org/studies/justifiable15.pdf.
A nice thing about defensive gun use: the vast majority of the time, the gun is not actually fired. Brandishing the gun is enough to end most of these encounters. It doesn't involve self-proclaimed badasses doing cartwheels and holding their guns sideways.
How do you feel about the fact that most of the incidents that people report as defensive gun use are actually crimes in and of themselves?
How do you feel about the fact that most of the incidents that people report as defensive gun use are actually crimes in and of themselves?
It's Schrodinger's crime: if a crime is committed in the stopping of a crime, was there ever a crime?