good laaawwd have mercy, cuss cuss! cyclist rant

Page 3 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.

Blintok

Senior member
Jan 30, 2007
433
0
0
Ok. I'll accept that the law is the law, but I certainly don't agree with that one. I mean, honestly I am vehemently against that law. If I can't do something (and this is just due to repetition...I've gone through my whole life opening my car door when I please) then god help the mindless masses out there who have 1/10th the brain activity I do.

Where I live right now, there aren't many cyclists to watch out for. But I travel to CA often, and the place is just riddled with them, especially the San Diego area. I'd like to know the CA law. Can anyone point me to this?

I suppose once I've digested the fact that I would be on the hook for something like this, I might be able to force my brain to think about it before I open my car door.


this is in your future... and i will lmfao

http://www.coronadelmartoday.com/13692/home/porsche-door-sheared-off-driver-gets-ticket/

".........opened his door today after parking ........"

"......just as a delivery truck drove past, tearing the door away from the car, witnesses and others said. "
 

highland145

Lifer
Oct 12, 2009
43,563
5,966
136
Doesn't matter what the law says. He has no right to use his car as a battering ram, killing someone in the process.
I agree. I can also see some road rage caused by some douche riders. Both should have some courtesy and think about the consequences. There are idiots everywhere.

I ride as far right as possible. I've still had things thrown at me, been swerved at, cussed at, cut off. These are not 55MPH secondary roads. Now our law has changed (not that many know it). $200 fine for harassing bicyclists.
 

tHa ShIzNiT

Platinum Member
Feb 15, 2000
2,321
8
81
this is in your future... and i will lmfao

http://www.coronadelmartoday.com/13692/home/porsche-door-sheared-off-driver-gets-ticket/

".........opened his door today after parking ........"

"......just as a delivery truck drove past, tearing the door away from the car, witnesses and others said. "

I see what you're saying. Thats actually not me. I wouldnt just open my door all willy nilly on a narrow street like that. That is what dumb people do. But dumb people make up greater than 50% of the people we see in life. And extremely dumb people, I'd say greater than 25%. So its just waiting to happen. Anyways...I just dont think about opening my door very much, because I dont have to. I do believe that in circumstances like the above I would check before opening.

edit: and San Diego is just ridiculously crowded. You're running into people left and right. So the porsche driver would have to be an idiot to swing the door open on a street like that. He deserved it.
 

Red Squirrel

No Lifer
May 24, 2003
67,936
12,384
126
www.anyf.ca
There are a couple of well known shared bike/pedestrian trails in Northern Virginia and there is a lot of conflict between some (by no means a majority or all) asshole bike riders and the pedestrians so I don't really see that working any better on a typical city sidewalk.

Most people here DO ride on the sidewalk, and it works out fine. Like I said the law is not really enforced thankfully, but it's just stupid that it even is a law.

There's always that tour the france wannabe asshole in spandex and all that decides to ride right in the road though and backup all the traffic. Especially on 2 lane roads where there's too much oncoming traffic to even try to pass the cyclist.

It is much better to stay out of the way of cars and only get in the road if there's a pedestrian, than to just staying the road and block all the traffic.
 

Red Squirrel

No Lifer
May 24, 2003
67,936
12,384
126
www.anyf.ca
Basically all that is wrong. I'm not even sure where to begin.

Huh, what exactly is wrong then?

It's just common sense. People walk at maybe 2km/h, a typical cyclist goes maybe 20km/h. There are only a few cyclists and pedestrians while there is 10x more cars, which go at 60km/h (if they're obeying the law) and often more like 80km/h. It makes much more sense to keep the bulk of the traffic, which is high speed and deadly, on the road. Keep the non deadly traffic on the sidewalk. There's no argument that this is much safer for everyone. Driving down the road there will be cars behind you, cars in front of you, and oncoming traffic. The same cannot be said for people walking. There is much more space between pedestrians than there is between cars. Cyclists on the sidewalk make much more sense and they can just go around pedestrians whenever there is one walking.

Now there are some cyclists that will go super fast, those ones can stay on the road if they can actually keep up with traffic.
 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
55,414
1,574
126
Riding on the sidewalk is illegal in many states. There is no point discussing that any further.
 

Capt Caveman

Lifer
Jan 30, 2005
34,547
651
126
Huh, what exactly is wrong then?

It's just common sense. People walk at maybe 2km/h, a typical cyclist goes maybe 20km/h. There are only a few cyclists and pedestrians while there is 10x more cars, which go at 60km/h (if they're obeying the law) and often more like 80km/h. It makes much more sense to keep the bulk of the traffic, which is high speed and deadly, on the road. Keep the non deadly traffic on the sidewalk. There's no argument that this is much safer for everyone. Driving down the road there will be cars behind you, cars in front of you, and oncoming traffic. The same cannot be said for people walking. There is much more space between pedestrians than there is between cars. Cyclists on the sidewalk make much more sense and they can just go around pedestrians whenever there is one walking.

Now there are some cyclists that will go super fast, those ones can stay on the road if they can actually keep up with traffic.

Yes, you are an ignorant retard.
 

MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
22,004
20,241
136
Wouldn't the impact to society from people driving cars be higher than that of bike riders when calculated on a per vehicle basis? Bikes don't burn fuel, they provide exercise and I bet fewer die in drunk biking accidents compared to drunk driving.

What it comes down to is that most people are selfish. They have very little respect for others and don't want to share so much as even a bit of space on the road. When they have to slow down a little and drive around someone in the bike lane it just pisses them off.

I'm not saying bike riders are special people. They tend to be asshats in about the same proportion as anyone else. What I am saying is that we could all do with would be a little more compassion and respect for other. Changing our hearts would fix damn near every problem facing humanity.

some sanity. especially the bolded part. these drivers that froth at the mouth at all cyclists and vastly generalize and stereotype are scary nuts.
 

MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
22,004
20,241
136
There are more cars than pedestrians, and bicycles only go slightly faster than pedestrians.

uhhh not true. avg walking speed is 3mph. when i'm in decent shape i can average 20mph over the course of 15 miles, on a hybrid with skinny tires. many cyclists can do this. and those that are seriously into it and train can avg over 25-30mph - that's 7-10x faster than a pedestrian.

it's a significant difference. in one hour i can ride 20+ miles while a pedestrian can only go 3.
 
Last edited:

JulesMaximus

No Lifer
Jul 3, 2003
74,472
867
126
uhhh not true. avg walking speed is 3mph. when i'm in decent shape i can average 20mph over the course of 15 miles, on a hybrid with skinny tires. many cyclists can do this. and those that are seriously into it and train can avg over 25mph - that's 7-9x faster than a pedestrian.

it's a significant difference. in one hour i can ride 20+ miles while a pedestrian can only go 3.

Plus bicycles are very quiet. Add to that pedestrians wearing headphones and that is a recipe for accidental collisions.

I am very opposed to people riding bicycles on sidewalks.
 

Capt Caveman

Lifer
Jan 30, 2005
34,547
651
126
Plus bicycles are very quiet. Add to that pedestrians wearing headphones and that is a recipe for accidental collisions.

I am very opposed to people riding bicycles on sidewalks.

Elderly, children, people pushing bady carriages, etc... A recipe for disaster if you add in speedy bikes.
 

Dirigible

Diamond Member
Apr 26, 2006
5,961
30
91
NEWS FLASH!

Today I took my older son to school by bicycle. I picked up my younger son from school by bicycle. I obeyed traffic laws, as did all the cars I saw. I got some exercise. There were no angry interactions, but there were several friendly waves between car drivers and me and my sons.

Exciting stuff.
 

JulesMaximus

No Lifer
Jul 3, 2003
74,472
867
126
NEWS FLASH!

Today I took my older son to school by bicycle. I picked up my younger son from school by bicycle. I obeyed traffic laws, as did all the cars I saw. I got some exercise. There were no angry interactions, but there were several friendly waves between car drivers and me and my sons.

Exciting stuff.

:thumbsup: As it should be.
 

Humpy

Diamond Member
Mar 3, 2011
4,463
596
126
I see what you're saying. Thats actually not me. I wouldnt just open my door all willy nilly on a narrow street like that. That is what dumb people do. But dumb people make up greater than 50% of the people we see in life. And extremely dumb people, I'd say greater than 25%. So its just waiting to happen. Anyways...I just dont think about opening my door very much, because I dont have to. I do believe that in circumstances like the above I would check before opening.

edit: and San Diego is just ridiculously crowded. You're running into people left and right. So the porsche driver would have to be an idiot to swing the door open on a street like that. He deserved it.

So basically, your point is that people who open their car doors without thought are dumb?
 

tHa ShIzNiT

Platinum Member
Feb 15, 2000
2,321
8
81
So basically, your point is that people who open their car doors without thought are dumb?

yes, on a narrow and very busy street in san diego, it would be dumb to open your car door without thinking. thats not really my point though. my point has been lost in all of this, I'm merely trying to collect information to mitigate risk in my own life at this point.
 

Red Squirrel

No Lifer
May 24, 2003
67,936
12,384
126
www.anyf.ca
uhhh not true. avg walking speed is 3mph. when i'm in decent shape i can average 20mph over the course of 15 miles, on a hybrid with skinny tires. many cyclists can do this. and those that are seriously into it and train can avg over 25-30mph - that's 7-10x faster than a pedestrian.

it's a significant difference. in one hour i can ride 20+ miles while a pedestrian can only go 3.

2.... 3... w/e. I was just guessing. My point is that high speed motorized traffic should have the road to itself while non motorized low speed traffic should be on the side walk. It's very simple. I don't get why people are being so dumbfounded by a simple concept like that. Cyclists are basically pedestrians on wheels.
 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
55,414
1,574
126
2.... 3... w/e. I was just guessing. My point is that high speed motorized traffic should have the road to itself while non motorized low speed traffic should be on the side walk. It's very simple. I don't get why people are being so dumbfounded by a simple concept like that. Cyclists are basically pedestrians on wheels.

because your opinion doesn't trump the law that currently exists in many states.
 
sale-70-410-exam    | Exam-200-125-pdf    | we-sale-70-410-exam    | hot-sale-70-410-exam    | Latest-exam-700-603-Dumps    | Dumps-98-363-exams-date    | Certs-200-125-date    | Dumps-300-075-exams-date    | hot-sale-book-C8010-726-book    | Hot-Sale-200-310-Exam    | Exam-Description-200-310-dumps?    | hot-sale-book-200-125-book    | Latest-Updated-300-209-Exam    | Dumps-210-260-exams-date    | Download-200-125-Exam-PDF    | Exam-Description-300-101-dumps    | Certs-300-101-date    | Hot-Sale-300-075-Exam    | Latest-exam-200-125-Dumps    | Exam-Description-200-125-dumps    | Latest-Updated-300-075-Exam    | hot-sale-book-210-260-book    | Dumps-200-901-exams-date    | Certs-200-901-date    | Latest-exam-1Z0-062-Dumps    | Hot-Sale-1Z0-062-Exam    | Certs-CSSLP-date    | 100%-Pass-70-383-Exams    | Latest-JN0-360-real-exam-questions    | 100%-Pass-4A0-100-Real-Exam-Questions    | Dumps-300-135-exams-date    | Passed-200-105-Tech-Exams    | Latest-Updated-200-310-Exam    | Download-300-070-Exam-PDF    | Hot-Sale-JN0-360-Exam    | 100%-Pass-JN0-360-Exams    | 100%-Pass-JN0-360-Real-Exam-Questions    | Dumps-JN0-360-exams-date    | Exam-Description-1Z0-876-dumps    | Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps    | Dumps-HPE0-Y53-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-HPE0-Y53-Exam    | 100%-Pass-HPE0-Y53-Real-Exam-Questions    | Pass-4A0-100-Exam    | Latest-4A0-100-Questions    | Dumps-98-365-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-98-365-Exam    | 100%-Pass-VCS-254-Exams    | 2017-Latest-VCS-273-Exam    | Dumps-200-355-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-300-320-Exam    | Pass-300-101-Exam    | 100%-Pass-300-115-Exams    |
http://www.portvapes.co.uk/    | http://www.portvapes.co.uk/    |