Good laptop for college?

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r0n

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Wrong Forum - pardon moi.
 
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stateofmind

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OK, the ACER above reportedly is a pain to access the RAM and HDD for upgrade. Here is another ACER with the same CPU that shouldn't need upgrading. It's pretty loaded, for just a little more than the Dell @ $470.00 free shipping:

ACER Aspire E5-573G-59C3
- Intel Core i5 5200U
- 8GB RAM
- 1TB HDD + 8GB SSD
- NVIDIA GeForce 940M 2GB VRAM
- 15.6" non-touch screen
- Windows 8.1

Dedicated GeForce graphics, 8GB RAM, 1TB + 8GB hybrid SSHD, but back to smaller 4-cell battery with 2500 mAh and still no DVD optical.

Just note that the GT 940M is not that powerful, even for 768p resolution and the keyboard is not so good according to this review
 

JustMe21

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I think the reason so many people prefer Mac Bookss is due to build quality. So many people start out their college life with have some crappy cheap Windows laptop that ends up being a boat anchor, subpar on performance due to the slow processor, and has crappy battery life, which is why they end up wanting a Mac Book. A 5.2lb 15" laptop is going to get heavy for a college student to carry around all day, because they will have books and accessories to carry around as well.

I think a smaller, lighter laptop with good battery life and a 1920 x 1080 screen is generally the way to go. This is why I generally recommend the Dell XPS 13 laptop, because it's 2.8 lbs and has a 10+ hour battery life.
 
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stateofmind

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But it's a clear step-up from the Intel 4400 and 5500 graphics, especially in light/casual gaming.

I think I missed the part where the OP said it's not for gaming. In this case, OP, you should probably do what I did - get a refurbished Dell latitude E5550/E5450/E7450 or something like that. If you watch closely for a money, you can get those with 3 years warranty, good 1080p IPS display, very good keyboard and touchpad, good build quality and good battery for around $450-$550, usually with a 500GB SSHD or 250GB SSD (and anyway you can replace those)
I strongly recommend it
 

jchu14

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I think the one I got was a great deal...

It's a good deal, but I don't think it's the best for this usage.

In my opinion, the priority of most important things to least for a college laptop
Size > Battery life > durability > 'Snappiness' > screen quality > Raw performance

In my years undergrad and grad school, my laptop sizes went from 15.6" > 14" > 13.3" > 12.5". Portability is the most important thing unless you have specific performance requirements (Heavy engineering software or compiling, etc). Even for engineering students, people overstate the performance requirements. The trend now is for schools to provide remote desktop capability into school workstations for the few times you really need horsepower.

A 15 inch laptop (and power adapter) is much too cumbersome to lug around to meetings and classes. It'll end up sitting on her desk in her dorm room. That core i7 won't feel substantially any faster than an i5 or even a core M at Chrome, Word, or Powerpoint, but those extra 2 or 3 pounds in her backpack and 3 fewer hours of battery life will make a huge difference in every day usage. A Core-M and SSD will feel faster than a Core i7 and regular hard drive in most everyday tasks.

I second the recommendation people made of the Asus UX305. It's thin, light, and has good battery life. If you are worried about performance, then go to a core i3 or i5. I think i7 is overkill and unless you actually get a an i7 that's quad core rather than dual core with slightly better turbo boost speed, it's only marginally better than the i5.
 

Anomaly1964

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It's a good deal, but I don't think it's the best for this usage.

In my opinion, the priority of most important things to least for a college laptop
Size > Battery life > durability > 'Snappiness' > screen quality > Raw performance

In my years undergrad and grad school, my laptop sizes went from 15.6" > 14" > 13.3" > 12.5". Portability is the most important thing unless you have specific performance requirements (Heavy engineering software or compiling, etc). Even for engineering students, people overstate the performance requirements. The trend now is for schools to provide remote desktop capability into school workstations for the few times you really need horsepower.

A 15 inch laptop (and power adapter) is much too cumbersome to lug around to meetings and classes. It'll end up sitting on her desk in her dorm room. That core i7 won't feel substantially any faster than an i5 or even a core M at Chrome, Word, or Powerpoint, but those extra 2 or 3 pounds in her backpack and 3 fewer hours of battery life will make a huge difference in every day usage. A Core-M and SSD will feel faster than a Core i7 and regular hard drive in most everyday tasks.

I second the recommendation people made of the Asus UX305. It's thin, light, and has good battery life. If you are worried about performance, then go to a core i3 or i5. I think i7 is overkill and unless you actually get a an i7 that's quad core rather than dual core with slightly better turbo boost speed, it's only marginally better than the i5.


The UX05 is at least $100 more too...
 

jchu14

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The UX05 is at least $100 more too...

If you're okay with buying used, you get some some great deals on ebay or cowboom. Dell outlet occasionally would have great deals too.

The models I would focus on would be the business line:
Lenovo Thinkpad 12.5" (x240 and x250) and 14" (x1 carbon)
Dell Latitude 12.5" (e7240 and e7250) and 14" (e7440 and e7450)

The good thing about buying these laptop used is that in most cases, their warranty can be transferred. For the Thinkpads, the warranty stays with the machine. So you don't need to do anything to keep the warranty. For the Dell Latitudes, you'll need the info from the previous owner on file with Dell. That may be a bit tricky with ebay purchases.

I also like the Lenovo Yoga line actually. It's consumer oriented, but I find them fairly well made.

In addition, I would make really try to get IPS screens if you can. The entry level TN panels sometimes can be pretty awful. This is especially confusing for the Thinkpads because they have many panel choices. Some are IPS and some are TN at the same resolution.

Cowboom sometimes have great deals on used laptops. For example this Lenovo Yoga 2 for ~$400 - $450. http://www.cowboom.com/product/1577705/ It's luck of the draw on the condition of the laptop you get. Sometimes they're better than stated and sometimes they're worse than stated. But they have a really hassle free return policy, so you can always return it if you don't like it.

I hope you don't feel like I am trying to give you a hard time. I just want to give you my opinions on what would be suitable for a college laptop.
 

Anomaly1964

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If you're okay with buying used, you get some some great deals on ebay or cowboom. Dell outlet occasionally would have great deals too.

The models I would focus on would be the business line:
Lenovo Thinkpad 12.5" (x240 and x250) and 14" (x1 carbon)
Dell Latitude 12.5" (e7240 and e7250) and 14" (e7440 and e7450)

The good thing about buying these laptop used is that in most cases, their warranty can be transferred. For the Thinkpads, the warranty stays with the machine. So you don't need to do anything to keep the warranty. For the Dell Latitudes, you'll need the info from the previous owner on file with Dell. That may be a bit tricky with ebay purchases.

I also like the Lenovo Yoga line actually. It's consumer oriented, but I find them fairly well made.

In addition, I would make really try to get IPS screens if you can. The entry level TN panels sometimes can be pretty awful. This is especially confusing for the Thinkpads because they have many panel choices. Some are IPS and some are TN at the same resolution.

Cowboom sometimes have great deals on used laptops. For example this Lenovo Yoga 2 for ~$400 - $450. http://www.cowboom.com/product/1577705/ It's luck of the draw on the condition of the laptop you get. Sometimes they're better than stated and sometimes they're worse than stated. But they have a really hassle free return policy, so you can always return it if you don't like it.

I hope you don't feel like I am trying to give you a hard time. I just want to give you my opinions on what would be suitable for a college laptop.

Its all good and like they say, never look back once you make a purchase...haha
 

jchu14

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Just in case you were looking at alternative, for anyone else also looking for a laptop.

Dell outlet has a refurb inspiron 13 - 7352 (Broadwell processor) for $779 minus 35% coupon code 'OUTLETHOME' for $506 final price.
http://www.dell.com/learn/us/en/22/campaigns/delloutletpromopage_dfh

It's a bit of a chunky 13.3" laptop at 3.68lb , but it's still way more portable than the Z50 and most of the specs are just as good.

The inspiron 13 has:
Core i5-5200 U (gen 5 Broadwell instead of gen 4 Haswell)
same 500gb Hard drive
same 8gb RAM
1080p screen, but Dell has touchscreen and IPS rather than the Z50's non-touch TN panel
43 Whr battery vs 41 Whr (battery life will be noticeably better with Broadwell and slightly larger battery)
active stylus support (optional accessory)
backlit keyboard
smaller: 0.75" / 12.99" / 8.74" vs 0.98" / 15.11" / 10.43"
3.68 lb vs 5.5 lb


I think there is currently only 1 in stock at dell outlet, but Dell tends to replenish stock randomly throughout the day. The coupon code is good until 7/28.
 

ultimatebob

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Honestly, you're better off ponying up and getting the Macbook Pro for college if that's what everyone else is getting.

You're not really saving anything by buying a $500 flimsy plastic case laptop for college and then having it get destroyed the first you drop it or spill a drink on it.

Besides, you might find yourself at a disadvantage where everyone is using a Mac OS X version of some software required for a class and you get stuck figuring out the Windows version of the software yourself.

Even if your college is a Windows shop, I'd spend the extra money on something durable like a Lenovo Thinkpad T series.
 
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Anomaly1964

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Another factor for my son is that he will be living at home, not on campus so some of the RISKS are minimized...
 

RossMAN

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If you're looking for maximum bang for your buck, you cannot beat this.

It will expire in a few hours, buy now, think later.

http://www.microsoftstore.com/store...-Signature-Edition-Laptop/productID.314413400

$397 with free shipping, return at your local Microsoft store if you don't like it.

Intel Core i5-5200U 2.20 GHz CPU
4GB DDR3 Memory
500GB Hard Drive
15.6" LED Screen (1920x1080) + Webcam
Intel HD Graphics 5500
2x USB 3.0, 1x HDMI
WiFi N + WiDi + Bluetooth 4.0
4 Cell Battery
Windows 8.1 (64-Bit)

Edit: and it's OUT OF STOCK, congrats to those who got in while it was hot!
 
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