Good music with lots of high quality and low bass?

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uhohs

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High Quality?

Thank MP3s for killing that trend. People now days don't care about QUALITY of the music.

Most music is compressed and sounds flat (to me anyways, I do have musicians hearing).

One of the reasons why I still buy CD > copy high quality to music library.

As for music. Try the Killers Shadowplay, end of the song will def test your lows....hehe (big killers fan here so don't mind me)

the loudness war and crap mastering/processing is what killed sound quality, not mp3's. there's nothing really wrong with properly encoded mp3's.
 

mshan

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I think I would agree with the garbage in, garbage out argument uhohs presents above.

I have some mp3 files I encoded with Musicmatch many years ago @ 320, and later ripped the original cds into iTunes using Apple Lossless.

Playing back through a pretty good high end 2 channel system, subjectively main differences I seem to notice are attenuation of frequency extremes and loss of fine detail (ambiance and atmospheric detail of original recording venue). Also maybe a slight hint of added graininess which I would guess is from trans-coding). It's definitely not a night and day difference, though.

If the original recording is good, and if you use good same good MP3 codec to rip and playback, I bet you can capture a lot of of essence of the original recording.



As for music to test your subs out, maybe google for reviews of some well rated subs such as the JL Fathoms, etc: http://www.stereophile.com/content/jl-audio-fathom-f212-powered-subwoofer-page-3 or more mainstream option such as SVS, etc: e. g. http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/speakers/subwoofers/svs-pb13/pb13-listening-tests

If you had these subs, it probably doesn't matter what you play on them: http://youtu.be/RBHcBvmBKL4


 
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Scotteq

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If you can find it - There is an SACD version of Al DiMeola's "Kiss My Axe"... Track 2 "The Embrace". Tastefully done, for sure, but the drums at 1:40~ish and again 3:20 will test any sub. They're very large and deep, so if it sounds 'meh', then your sub isn't reproducing the lowest frequencies very well. If they can, and your speakers can maintain their clarity in the mids while that happens you've done your homework.
 

yhelothar

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I think I would agree with the garbage in, garbage out argument uhohs presents above.

I have some mp3 files I encoded with Musicmatch many years ago @ 320, and later ripped the original cds into iTunes using Apple Lossless.

Playing back through a pretty good high end 2 channel system, subjectively main differences I seem to notice are attenuation of frequency extremes and loss of fine detail (ambiance and atmospheric detail of original recording venue). Also maybe a slight hint of added graininess which I would guess is from trans-coding). It's definitely not a night and day difference, though.

If the original recording is good, and if you use good same good MP3 codec to rip and playback, I bet you can capture a lot of of essence of the original recording.

I can't hear the difference between a decently encoded MP3 and and CD. I don't have a musicians ear. But I can easily hear a difference between a really good recording and an ok one.

A good recording just pops out at you like a popup book. The music separates into layers. Each sound and instrument sounds distinct and is spatially imaged.
 

mshan

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I don't think it requires golden ears, just a stereo system that has enough inherent resolution to make any subtle differences perceptible, if they are there.

Have read comments on speakers by musicians saying they like simple 2 way bookshelf with limited low frequency extension (a lot of bass, interacting with room resonances, may lead to unusual beats that musicians find distracting).

Get the midrange right, get the timing and microdynamics right, and as long as everything else is evenly balanced or a sin of omission, you can probably create quite a musical system at low price point.
 

yhelothar

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I have several audiophile speaker demo CDs, one with a great drums track on it. I don't have anywhere to host it though. Anyone have about 20MBs to spare on their server?
 

Paul98

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unless it's freq range is in the low double digits or single digits I don't have to worry about my subs at all. I will have to check out some of these and see which ones I like
 

videogames101

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An MP3/FLAC or original CD (from the last 20 years) will all be super compressed. MP3s lose a bit of fidelity above 15khz usually and because a lot of music is heavily limited you end up everything sounding flat.

Anyway, I think you're being mp3 snobby for no reason

It's not hard to ABX LAME v0 and FLAC successfully.
 

Soccerman06

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One of these days I'll build a dual opposite tc lms 18" ultras and throw a clone 14000 on it and put it on its own 30amp breaker. I'm trying to make my neighbors trailer vibrate off its foundation lol
 

gorcorps

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the loudness war and crap mastering/processing is what killed sound quality, not mp3's. there's nothing really wrong with properly encoded mp3's.

Bingo

I have friends who have vinyl copies of modern albums and they still sound like shit (despite what they've convinced themselves of). Modern music production is pretty awful in any format, at any quality, using any sound system. The fact that the music is digital in and of itself isn't the issue, it's the fact that digital production made it easy to compress the dynamic range of the masters to drive the volume of the whole track up. You can still find early CDs that haven't been screwed this way and they sound amazing when ripped right, even as mp3s.
 

JimKiler

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The Prodigy - Spitfire
Gave you a nice bonus video to go with the music

Most of the Fat of the Land disc is solid bass.


I still love the Vegas album from Crystal Method.

OP, too bad DVD audio is dead, I have the Blue Man Group in surround sound or some Nine Inch Nails surround sound discs. Even though i never used the DVD Audio standard they still gave you 5.1 sound via DVD video and used DTS 1.5MB/s which is the highest you get from DVD video.
 

Paul98

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Well after having some problems with what I was using to play the songs now I can actually get full range out of them. Before the player I was using was turning down the volume of the low freq's which made the songs suffer a lot for what I wanted lol.

I didn't get much out of Skrillex - Kill everybody, was mostly bass drum nothing real crazy.

NIN - Slip "Discipline" was sweet, that sweep starting at 3:01ish was very nice. Along with all the other stuff.

Plus I tried out one of the others that was linked there and it turned out great.

Now that I know I can listen to these songs and they sound good I will try some more out.
 

Ns1

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NIN - Slip "Discipline" was sweet, that sweep starting at 3:01ish was very nice. Along with all the other stuff.

Since you've already done this, you might as well download "Me I'm Not" and "The Great Destroyer" to piss off your neighbors.
 
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