Good Power Supply.....

[reddem0n]

It's going to be my first time building my comp and these are the parts I ordered so far

Case:
http://www.circotech.com/x-blade-pc-gaming-pre-mod-atx-medium-tower-case.html

Motherboard:
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=246486

HardDrive:
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=80717-5

Going to go for a 3500 amd venice core, but that I'll bring up later. Right now for the motherboard I have I need to go an ATX 2.0 compliant power supply as it requires 24 pin. What do you guys think I should go with? I don't want to have to spend anymore then $130 on a PSU and I want to go with one that is reliable and has a good rep in the market.

 

[imported_Kensai]

Enermax Noisetaker 535W SLI PSU is very nice. The Seasonic S-12 600W is nice too.

 

[reddem0n]

I don't have nor even want SLI. I have PCI-E.

 

[imported_Kensai]

The PSU is designed for the power consuption of SLI rigs.. That means it's good stuff....

 

[reddem0n]

If possible link it to me on newegg or zipzoomfly

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Originally posted by: reddem0n
If possible link it to me on newegg or zipzoomfly

Seasonic's lineup at newegg

 

[fstime]

OCZ 520.

Best PSU on the market, next to the 600W model and some zippys.

Cant beat external ajustable pots.

I think its a little more than 130, not by much though.

 

[knothead34]

get the fortron blue storm its 500watts ...24 pin and has braided cables. last time i saw it at newegg was 69.00 dollars.

 

[reddem0n]

its 91.00 if your talking about this one..
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817104934

I think this one is atx 2.0 compliant as well. What do you guys think, based on the specifications I have on my first post...I think I'm going to buy this one

 

[exar333]

fortron
enermax
OCZ

get a atx 2.0 and at least 480 watts, you will be fine

 

[Azsen]

http://www.pcpowercooling.com/products/viewproduct.php?show=T51DX

PC Power and Cooling are regarded as the best manufacturers of PSUs in the world because of the quality of components they use, the rating method that they use and the 5 year warranty offered with them. Others like OCZ rate their PSUs at 520/600W at 25°C but that's unrealistic because normal temps in the PSU are about 40°C, so when these PSUs get up to those temps their wattage outputs decrease, some to like 300W. The PSUs from PCP&C will perform at 510W continuous at up to 50°C.

Then again you've got PCP&C making high-end PSUs for like the last 20 years, and OCZ who've just started making them in the last 2 years?

 

[Algere]

Originally posted by: Azsen
http://www.pcpowercooling.com/products/viewproduct.php?show=T51DX

PC Power and Cooling are regarded as the best manufacturers of PSUs in the world because of the quality of components they use, the rating method that they use and the 5 year warranty offered with them. Others like OCZ rate their PSUs at 520/600W at 25°C but that's unrealistic because normal temps in the PSU are about 40°C, so when these PSUs get up to those temps their wattage outputs decrease, some to like 300W. The PSUs from PCP&C will perform at 510W continuous at up to 50°C.

Then again you've got PCP&C making high-end PSUs for like the last 20 years, and OCZ who've just started making them in the last 2 years?

1) OCZ's Powerstream line carries a 5 year warranty as well.

2) Don't know about the Modstream but OCZ rates their Powerstream line (520W/600W) at 50° C under operation, not 25° C.

3) OCZ doesn't make PSUs, the PSUs they carry under their name are Topower PSUs and they've been in business much longer than 2 years.

 

[Arcanedeath]

If you have the bucks a PC power and cooling supply prolly can't be beat, but if your looking for silence and efficency then a Seasonic S12 series PSU is the way to go.

 

[KoolDrew]

The OCZ PowerStream 520W is the best PSU you can get in your budget.

 

[Azsen]

Originally posted by: Algere
1) OCZ's Powerstream line carries a 5 year warranty as well.

If they stand behind their product with a 3yr unlimited, 2yr limited warranty, that's great.

Originally posted by: Algere
2) Don't know about the Modstream but OCZ rates their Powerstream line (520W/600W) at 50° C under operation, not 25° C.

I have looked but I cannot find anywhere on their site which says 520W/600W @ 50°C. If it doesn't state that explicitly, then you have to assume they are rating them at 25°C. Can you find it?

Originally posted by: Algere
3) OCZ doesn't make PSUs, the PSUs they carry under their name are Topower PSUs and they've been in business much longer than 2 years.

My point is PCP&C have been making the things for 20yrs so that's a good track record.

 

[Algere]

Originally posted by: Azsen

Originally posted by: Algere
2) Don't know about the Modstream but OCZ rates their Powerstream line (520W/600W) at 50° C under operation, not 25° C.

I have looked but I cannot find anywhere on their site which says 520W/600W @ 50°C. If it doesn't state that explicitly, then you have to assume they are rating them at 25°C. Can you find it?

See PDF form on the Powerstreams product page.

Originally posted by: Azsen

Originally posted by: Algere
3) OCZ doesn't make PSUs, the PSUs they carry under their name are Topower PSUs and they've been in business much longer than 2 years.

My point is PCP&C have been making the things for 20yrs so that's a good track record.

Then why the [inaccurate] comparison with OCZ?

 

[fstime]

Originally posted by: Azsen
http://www.pcpowercooling.com/products/viewproduct.php?show=T51DX

PC Power and Cooling are regarded as the best manufacturers of PSUs in the world because of the quality of components they use, the rating method that they use and the 5 year warranty offered with them. Others like OCZ rate their PSUs at 520/600W at 25°C but that's unrealistic because normal temps in the PSU are about 40°C, so when these PSUs get up to those temps their wattage outputs decrease, some to like 300W. The PSUs from PCP&C will perform at 510W continuous at up to 50°C.

Then again you've got PCP&C making high-end PSUs for like the last 20 years, and OCZ who've just started making them in the last 2 years?

Bottom line,

OCZ 520 for 130.00 gives you the same performance as the PCP&C 510 for less.

Plus you get external ajustable pots, cant beat that.

From what I hear, PCP&C is made up of mostly Forton parts.

For $130, the OCZ is hard to beat.

I love ajusable rails.



BTW: To the thread starter, the OCZ Powerstream 520 is exactly $130 on newegg.

If you havnt figured it out yet, External pots means on the back of the PSU are ajustable rails which you can incress or decress voltage while the pc is on and looking at the volatages in the bios.

You use a screw driver to ajust them.

Make very small ajustments at a time.

1/16 or 1/8 a turn until you get the voltages you want.

 

[w00t]

you guys are all wrong you want a good reliable psu ocz modstream 450w.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817104154

 

[Azsen]

Originally posted by: Algere

Originally posted by: Azsen

Originally posted by: Algere
2) Don't know about the Modstream but OCZ rates their Powerstream line (520W/600W) at 50° C under operation, not 25° C.

I have looked but I cannot find anywhere on their site which says 520W/600W @ 50°C. If it doesn't state that explicitly, then you have to assume they are rating them at 25°C. Can you find it?

See PDF form on the Powerstreams product page.

Yeah what PDF exactly has the details? I can't find it sorry. I found this pdf and this pdf and all they mention is operating temperature of 0 - 50°C (any PSU should be able to handle that) and a MTBF of 140,000hrs @ 25°C.

I cannot find anywhere on their site which says 520W or 600W @ 50°C. If it doesn't state that explicitly, then you have to assume they are rating them at 25°C. So when the temps rise they will output less wattage.

It's actually cheaper to import a PCP&C over here ($370nzd) than to buy an OCZ 600W ($470nzd). But if it's the other way around over there, then you might be better off with the OCZ.

Remember at 25°C the 510 Deluxe is rated for 650W.

 

[Algere]

Originally posted by: Azsen

Originally posted by: Algere

Originally posted by: Azsen

Originally posted by: Algere
2) Don't know about the Modstream but OCZ rates their Powerstream line (520W/600W) at 50° C under operation, not 25° C.

I have looked but I cannot find anywhere on their site which says 520W/600W @ 50°C. If it doesn't state that explicitly, then you have to assume they are rating them at 25°C. Can you find it?

See PDF form on the Powerstreams product page.

Yeah what PDF exactly has the details? I can't find it sorry. I found this pdf and this pdf and all they mention is operating temperature of 0 - 50°C (any PSU should be able to handle that) and a MTBF of 140,000hrs @ 25°C.

I cannot find anywhere on their site which says 520W or 600W @ 50°C. If it doesn't state that explicitly, then you have to assume they are rating them at 25°C. So when the temps rise they will output less wattage.

It's actually cheaper to import a PCP&C over here ($370nzd) than to buy an OCZ 600W ($470nzd). But if it's the other way around over there, then you might be better off with the OCZ.

Remember at 25°C the 510 Deluxe is rated for 650W.

The first PDF you listed has the details.

OCZ's listed operating temperature is the same as PC P&C listing "510W @ 50°C" & not all PSUs have 50° C as their rated operating temps (case in point, see old Enermax PSU specs rated @ 25° C Oper. temp.). Also if memory serves, an ATX12V 2.x compliant PSU must be able to operate @ near/around 50° C reliably under their rated power & the 600W Powerstream is listed as being ATX12V 2.0 compliant.

Secondly, as BouZouki pointed out, OCZ is cheaper than PC P&C in the states.

 

[Away]

Antec Truepower 2.0

 

[Azsen]

Originally posted by: Algere
The first PDF you listed has the details.

OCZ's listed operating temperature is the same as PC P&C listing "510W @ 50°C" & not all PSUs have 50° C as their rated operating temps (case in point, see old Enermax PSU specs rated @ 25° C Oper. temp.). Also if memory serves, an ATX12V 2.x compliant PSU must be able to operate @ near/around 50° C reliably under their rated power & the 600W Powerstream is listed as being ATX12V 2.0 compliant.

Here is the ATX 2.03 specification. Please show me where it says anything about what you just said to prove your point.

http://www.pcpowercooling.com/pdf/Turbo-Cool_510_vs.pdf

 

[Algere]

Originally posted by: Azsen

Originally posted by: Algere
The first PDF you listed has the details.

OCZ's listed operating temperature is the same as PC P&C listing "510W @ 50°C" & not all PSUs have 50° C as their rated operating temps (case in point, see old Enermax PSU specs rated @ 25° C Oper. temp.). Also if memory serves, an ATX12V 2.x compliant PSU must be able to operate @ near/around 50° C reliably under their rated power & the 600W Powerstream is listed as being ATX12V 2.0 compliant.

Here is the ATX 2.03 specification. Please show me where it says anything about what you just said to prove your point.

http://www.pcpowercooling.com/pdf/Turbo-Cool_510_vs.pdf

I said ATX12V 2.x, not ATX 2.x

 

[dandragonrage]

PCP&C has 10mV of ripple on each rail. OCZ does not come close. I'm not saying the OCZ is a bad unit, but PCP&C is a class above it.

 

[Algere]

Originally posted by: dandragonrage
PCP&C has 10mV of ripple on each rail. OCZ does not come close. I'm not saying the OCZ is a bad unit, but PCP&C is a class above it.

IIRC someone from OCZ even said their PSUs weren't up to the same build quality & what not as PC P&C, but for the $ OCZ positions their PSUs at, it's still a competitive PSU brand.