Good Twitter thread on the horror of "concentration camps" and the applicability of that term to migrants being detained at the Southern border

[Blackjack200]

Highlights:

- Concentration camps are essentially just that, the forced concentration of people into camps.
- Different than prisons because they're not part of the formal legal system
- Detainees have no rights or privileges, can be detained indefinitely
- The camps at the Southern border are, by any reasonable definition, concentration camps
- We should all be "deathly afraid" of these camps.

Atrocities. They're happening right here folks. Right now. We're not doing anything about it.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1141056585843838983

 

[HomerJS]

Webster dictionary definition of concentration camps...

: a place where large numbers of people (such as prisoners of war, political prisoners, refugees, or the members of an ethnic or religious minority) are detained or confined under armed guard

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/concentration camp

 

[dawp]

seems like a reasonable description.

 

[glenn1]

They're free to not come to this country to be placed into concentration camps. And they're also free to leave them and return to their country of origin at any time.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

The right is trying to conflate concentration camps with death camps. As usual they need to be intellectually dishonest to try and make whatever the point is they think they are making.

 

[glenn1]

The right is trying to conflate concentration camps with death camps. As usual they need to be intellectually dishonest to try and make whatever the point is they think they are making.

It's a pretty poor "concentration camp" when the residents are free to leave at any point and return to where they came from (or alternatively, the first country on their journey which wasn't their own home country and they were "unsafe").

I guess if some time in a "concentration camp" is the price to be paid for the prize of becoming a successful economic migrant to a rich western country then that's a price they're willing to pay.

 

[HomerJS]

They're free to not come to this country to be placed into concentration camps. And they're also free to leave them and return to their country of origin at any time.

I'm sure Jews trying to flee Poland in the 30s heard the same thing.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

It's a pretty poor "concentration camp" when the residents are free to leave at any point and return to where they came from (or alternatively, the first country on their journey which wasn't their own home country and they were "unsafe").

I guess if some time in a "concentration camp" is the price to be paid for the prize of becoming a successful economic migrant to a rich western country then that's a price they're willing to pay.

You don't understand the meaning of the word "refugee" do you? They are free to return to face whatever horror they fled from to begin with. What a sound argument.

 

[glenn1]

I'm sure Jews trying to flee Poland in the 30s heard the same thing.

Yes, those poor Guatemalans fleeing the horrors of not being able to make more money in the U.S. are certainly just like the Jews. Especially the part where they fled a country thousands of miles away to wind up in a concentration camp in Poland.

 

[IronWing]

Yes, those poor Guatemalans fleeing the horrors of not being able to make more money in the U.S. are certainly just like the Jews. Especially the part where they fled a country thousands of miles away to wind up in a concentration camp in Poland.

An ignorant fascist fuck says wha?

 

[HomerJS]

An ignorant fascist fuck says wha?

Yes because he thinks brown people will risk their children dying just to make a buck.

 

[glenn1]

An ignorant fascist fuck says wha?

 

[glenn1]

Yes because he thinks brown people will risk their children dying just to make a buck.

More like I know they will and do.

 

[Greenman]

Highlights:

- Concentration camps are essentially just that, the forced concentration of people into camps.
- Different than prisons because they're not part of the formal legal system
- Detainees have no rights or privileges, can be detained indefinitely
- The camps at the Southern border are, by any reasonable definition, concentration camps
- We should all be "deathly afraid" of these camps.

Atrocities. They're happening right here folks. Right now. We're not doing anything about it.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1141056585843838983

You left out one or two little details. The folks in these "concentration" camps chose to enter them, and the Feds are actively discouraging people from entering them.
Perhaps the solution is to put up signs, or erect a barrier that's difficult to cross in the hopes of keeping these hapless victims out of the concentration camps they insist on walking into.

 

[fskimospy]

You left out one or two little details. The folks in these "concentration" camps chose to enter them, and the Feds are actively discouraging people from entering them.
Perhaps the solution is to put up signs, or erect a barrier that's difficult to cross in the hopes of keeping these hapless victims out of the concentration camps they insist on walking into.

Can you explain why that makes our conduct okay?

 

[dainthomas]

They're free to not come to this country to be placed into concentration camps. And they're also free to leave them and return to their country of origin at any time.

After we steal their babies to sell to white families via Devos' adoption agency.

 

[K1052]

You left out one or two little details. The folks in these "concentration" camps chose to enter them, and the Feds are actively discouraging people from entering them.
Perhaps the solution is to put up signs, or erect a barrier that's difficult to cross in the hopes of keeping these hapless victims out of the concentration camps they insist on walking into.

This is a convenient way to rationalize our increasingly brutal treatment of people. Simply absolve ourselves of any responsibility for their fate.

 

[Jhhnn]

You left out one or two little details. The folks in these "concentration" camps chose to enter them, and the Feds are actively discouraging people from entering them.
Perhaps the solution is to put up signs, or erect a barrier that's difficult to cross in the hopes of keeping these hapless victims out of the concentration camps they insist on walking into.

They didn't choose to enter the camps. They chose to throw themselves at the mercy of America.

https://www.esquire.com/news-politi...rn-border-migrant-detention-facilities-trump/

 

[UNCjigga]

The really sick thing about this is that some of these “concentration camps” are operated by for-profit corporations. They are incentivized to spend as little as possible for the welfare of their detainees while living high off the government hog trough.

Oh, and they get to use the detainees as dirt cheap indentured labor, too.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/dolla...ivate-prisons-where-migrants-work-for-pennies

 

[glenn1]

The really sick thing about this is that some of these “concentration camps” are operated by for-profit corporations. They are incentivized to spend as little as possible for the welfare of their detainees while living high off the government hog trough.

Oh, and they get to use the detainees as dirt cheap indentured labor, too.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/dolla...ivate-prisons-where-migrants-work-for-pennies

This is why would should endeavor to ship all the refugees out to somewhere like the Aleutian Islands to wait their due process. They can be released on the old military bases there on their own recognizance and if they're really that persecuted in their home countries then certainly a few weeks/months/years of cold weather won't deter them. Adak Army base would be perfect.

 

[Mai72]

AOC just got hammered for her concntration camp remark.

 

[dainthomas]

This is why would should endeavor to ship all the refugees out to somewhere like the Aleutian Islands to wait their due process. They can be released on the old military bases there on their own recognizance and if they're really that persecuted in their home countries then certainly a few weeks/months/years of cold weather won't deter them. Adak Army base would be perfect.

Treating vulnerable/disadvantaged people like garbage is certainly an American tradition. This must be how we get great again.

 

[Jhhnn]

This is why would should endeavor to ship all the refugees out to somewhere like the Aleutian Islands to wait their due process. They can be released on the old military bases there on their own recognizance and if they're really that persecuted in their home countries then certainly a few weeks/months/years of cold weather won't deter them. Adak Army base would be perfect.

Show us on the doll where the icky brown people touched you.

 

[UNCjigga]

This is why would should endeavor to ship all the refugees out to somewhere like the Aleutian Islands to wait their due process. They can be released on the old military bases there on their own recognizance and if they're really that persecuted in their home countries then certainly a few weeks/months/years of cold weather won't deter them. Adak Army base would be perfect.

Why not just slap a GPS ankle bracelet on them (similar to what’s done with some parolees) and release them on their own recognizance? Shift the burden of their care off of taxpayers and onto their family members (I think I read somewhere that a large percentage of asylum seekers have family here already) or onto non-profits/churches funded by donors. A vast majority of the detainees have no criminal record...so why detain them indefinitely in the first place? Let them wait for their court dates outside a detention center.

 

[glenn1]

Show us on the doll where the icky brown people touched you.

Maybe you should tell us what luxury accommodations are appropriate for economic refugees? Should we put the tens of thousands of them up at the Ritz Carlton? A nice comfy leather armchair while they wait? A nice mint on their pillow before a snifter of brandy for a nightcap?

Why not just slap a GPS ankle bracelet on them (similar to what’s done with some parolees) and release them on their own recognizance? Shift the burden of their care off of taxpayers and onto their family members (I think I read somewhere that a large percentage of asylum seekers have family here already) or onto non-profits/churches funded by donors. A vast majority of the detainees have no criminal record...so why detain them indefinitely in the first place? Let them wait for their court dates outside a detention center.

Because then we might as well do away with our legal immigration system and say screw it with visas and whatnot, if you want to come to this country and stay then just show up at the border and you're in. If you apply at the embassy and pay for a visa and do the right thing to get your green card, you're literally a chump who wasted your money. Heck, why even bother with court dates? Just let them in and allow them to stay.