Good Twitter thread on the horror of "concentration camps" and the applicability of that term to migrants being detained at the Southern border

[mikeymikec]

So if I walked a few hundred miles and found safety for my family in a small house... but I chose to keep walking a few hundred more miles to Bill Gate's beach house- it proves I'm desperate.

Got it.

Do you and s0me0nesmind1 attend the same drinking sessions or something?

I don't know about either of you, but if I was in a situation where I (and a multitude of other people) was desperate enough to leave everything I knew behind, I wouldn't stop where everyone else stops if I thought that place was going to get swamped by a lot of people in need because a lot of essentials are going to quickly be in short supply. I've already done the emotionally painful bit of leaving what I called home, if I'm physically capable (and have the supplies) of keeping going to find somewhere better to start over, that makes a lot more sense than being told to move on by a country that can't sustain the multitude of refugees. AFAIK, the US is a considerably richer country than any in South America, ergo it can handle such a refugee crisis better than most countries.

My point, which seems to have eluded at least you is that the distance someone walks to find refuge to make a fresh start for their life isn't a great indicator of how valid their purpose is, however to say that someone who walks 500 miles rather than 1500 miles has a more valid purpose makes even less sense as the latter requires more commitment.

 

[K1052]

It's funny that the Left is the group most talking about not allowing any legal immigrants in. People overwhelmingly support immigrants that have be admitted via the proper legal methods. Allowing an uncontrolled influx of people only helps the Democrats because they get a gerrymandered voter base which is nothing more than indentured servants. Those indentured servants are more than willing to be accidental accomplices in the Left's efforts to radically change American society.

This doesn't make any sense at all. It's just regurgitated incoherent Fox New conspiracy rambling.

 

[mikeymikec]

People overwhelmingly support immigrants that have be admitted via the proper legal methods.

Jesus, if I had been drinking something when I read this, I would have had to clean my monitor. You displayed a level of dishonesty so extreme that it could easily be mistaken for parody.

Yeah, people are overwhelmingly in support of legal migrants, that's why pretty much every vaguely relevant fucking political thread here since forever has a recurring theme of people who conflate refugees, immigrants and/or illegal immigrants. And/or the other recurring theme of Schrödinger's Immigrant who is stealing our jobs and is also a lazy benefits cheat.

 

[K1052]

Jesus, if I had been drinking something when I read this, I would have had to clean my monitor. You displayed a level of dishonesty so extreme that it could easily be mistaken for parody.

Yeah, people are overwhelmingly in support of legal migrants, that's why pretty much every vaguely relevant fucking political thread here since forever has a recurring theme of people who conflate refugees, immigrants and/or illegal immigrants. And/or the other recurring theme of Schrödinger's Immigrant who is stealing our jobs and is also a lazy benefits cheat.

Sure we like immigrants but not *those people* really is the core of this. Many people are unwilling to actually process their often racist xenophobia as exactly that or if they are aware admit to it because of the scorn they will receive. You can get it out of them if you just listen though.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Sure we like immigrants but not *those people* really is the core of this. Many people are unwilling to actually process their often racist xenophobia as exactly that or if they are aware admit to it because of the scorn they will receive. You can get it out of them if you just listen though.

Yes, THOSE people.

You know, THOSE people that lack any skilled labor in an ever-tightening automated country where skilless professions are becoming extinct.
You know, THOSE people who do not speak the language that the majority of citizens speak and depend on daily.


God forbid we be a little choosie in our immigration process to ensure that they can be self-sustainable in our economy. But of course - you simply connect that for some reason to skin color or something? It's not a skin color thing, it's a skilled labor thing dummy.

You can find figures of immigrants by nation - showing that when immigrants come from countries such as India, Nigeria, South Africa, and many other countries with brown/black folks that they make ABOVE AVERAGE US income when they immigrate here because they are actually self-sustaining people that can obtain the skills needed to be successful here without being depended upon. THAT is what we want in immigration.

GTFO with your bullshit statements of trying to deflect arguments with race card bullshit.

 

[K1052]

Yes, THOSE people.

You know, THOSE people that lack any skilled labor in an ever-tightening automated country where skilless professions are becoming extinct.
You know, THOSE people who do not speak the language that the majority of citizens speak and depend on daily.


God forbid we be a little choosie in our immigration process to ensure that they can be self-sustainable in our economy. But of course - you simply connect that for some reason to skin color or something? It's not a skin color thing, it's a skilled labor thing dummy.

You can find figures of immigrants by nation - showing that when immigrants come from countries such as India, Nigeria, South Africa, and many other countries with brown/black folks that they make ABOVE AVERAGE US income when they immigrate here because they are actually self-sustaining people that can obtain the skills needed to be successful here without being depended upon. THAT is what we want in immigration.

GTFO with your bullshit statements of trying to deflect arguments with race card bullshit.

Immigrants, as a whole, are FAR less likely to rely on government aid than native born Americans. The whole construct that we are importing millions of people who can't sustain themselves is false. The exact same arguments were being made against basically every group to arrive in America after the puritans got here but economic need trumped those considerations, still does.

 

[UNCjigga]

It's funny that the Left is the group most talking about not allowing any legal immigrants in. People overwhelmingly support immigrants that have be admitted via the proper legal methods. Allowing an uncontrolled influx of people only helps the Democrats because they get a gerrymandered voter base which is nothing more than indentured servants. Those indentured servants are more than willing to be accidental accomplices in the Left's efforts to radically change American society.

Why aren't these unskilled workers (asylum, refugees, guest workers--not illegals) allowed to settle in red states? Why do you assume that legal Latin American immigrants, once fully nationalized, will only vote Democrat? WTF are you going on about--"gerrymandered voter base"??

I thought you Trumpers were all about "fvck your feelings"--your post is an example of what happens when your feelings fvck your facts instead.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Yes, THOSE people.

You know, THOSE people that lack any skilled labor in an ever-tightening automated country where skilless professions are becoming extinct.
You know, THOSE people who do not speak the language that the majority of citizens speak and depend on daily.


God forbid we be a little choosie in our immigration process to ensure that they can be self-sustainable in our economy. But of course - you simply connect that for some reason to skin color or something? It's not a skin color thing, it's a skilled labor thing dummy.

You can find figures of immigrants by nation - showing that when immigrants come from countries such as India, Nigeria, South Africa, and many other countries with brown/black folks that they make ABOVE AVERAGE US income when they immigrate here because they are actually self-sustaining people that can obtain the skills needed to be successful here without being depended upon. THAT is what we want in immigration.

GTFO with your bullshit statements of trying to deflect arguments with race card bullshit.

here we go again -- more BS...

 

[MomentsofSanity]

My god they held an 11 year old for 6 months whose mother was living legally in Virginia for claiming asylum at the border.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1142984690049196032

 

[dainthomas]

Just spitballing but we could help the existing population increase the birth rate?

Paid parental leave like every other country in the world might help. Or subsidized daycare. Most of the people I know have had fewer kids mostly because of the cost of child care. Preschool and younger is absolutely nuts.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Paid parental leave like every other country in the world might help. Or subsidized daycare. Most of the people I know have had fewer kids mostly because of the cost of child care. Preschool and younger is absolutely nuts.

These are all things that I can honestly support in full. These are all reasons why we are making Idiocracy into a documentary - Everyone that is in the working class and successful in life don't have the time/money to put up with children, their costs, daycare, etc while working.

Meanwhile the lower classes reproduce like bunnies because they have obvious reasons - more government benefits, more tax incentives, lack of 40+ hour work weeks means they don't need daycare, etc..

Also, we are slowly making progress I will say - at least for those of us in the upper tiers. My last 2 employers have offered me (the father) paid parental leave (regardless of my wife's leave). My last employer was 16 weeks @ 100% pay and I used it in full. My current employer gives 12.

 

[blackangst1]

I doubt it. Just another member of the Progressheviks' Useful Idiot Echo Chamber Choir.

You doubt what exactly?

 

[MomentsofSanity]

History will not judge this moment well...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1143510844938104832

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Looks like the acting DHS Commissioner has had enough of the spotlight. Anywhere vacancy that has a vacancy...

What an incompetent admin...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1143569052671102978

 

[Lanyap]

My god they held an 11 year old for 6 months whose mother was living legally in Virginia for claiming asylum at the border.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1142984690049196032

My god. Who is StanceGrounded and why should we care about his tweet?

Do you have a legitimate link for this story?

 

[Lanyap]

History will not judge this moment well...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1143510844938104832

Here is a direct link with more pics in a slide show. Looks bad. More proof that we are being overwhelmed by CA migrants wanting asylum and we can't handle it.
https://www.reuters.com/news/picture/us-border-patrol-migrant-camp-from-above-idUSRTS2HV7C

 

[Jhhnn]

Here is a direct link with more pics in a slide show. Looks bad. More proof that we are being overwhelmed by CA migrants wanting asylum and we can't handle it.
https://www.reuters.com/news/picture/us-border-patrol-migrant-camp-from-above-idUSRTS2HV7C

You mean "Lock them up!" isn't working? Who knew, right?

 

[JEDIYoda]

Here is a direct link with more pics in a slide show. Looks bad. More proof that we are being overwhelmed by CA migrants wanting asylum and we can't handle it.
https://www.reuters.com/news/picture/us-border-patrol-migrant-camp-from-above-idUSRTS2HV7C

Actually you got it all wrong!!
More proof that this administration has no morals and hates immigrants!
This has nothing to do with not being able to handle more immigrants!!
You idiot these are children......what a bafoon you are!!

 

[brycejones]

I'm sure in the spirit of elevating the discussion Zaappppp will be along to own up to his error.

Along with Pvt York and noonesmind

 

[dainthomas]

Looks like the acting DHS Commissioner has had enough of the spotlight. Anywhere vacancy that has a vacancy...

What an incompetent admin...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1143569052671102978

And now we'll get a new Acting Blahblahblah Director/Secretary to replace the existing Acting Blahblahblah Director/Secretary. Must be a Tuesday.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Doesn`t John Sanders look like Data????

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Immigrants, as a whole, are FAR less likely to rely on government aid than native born Americans. The whole construct that we are importing millions of people who can't sustain themselves is false. The exact same arguments were being made against basically every group to arrive in America after the puritans got here but economic need trumped those considerations, still does.

And you are entirely full of shit. To the fucking power of 12 billion you complete imbecile moron. Instead of using your feelings and the natural hard-on you get every time you hear the word "immigrate", why don't you use facts instead?

#1 - You cannot cite "immigrants" as a whole. There are illegal immigrants. There are asylum seekers. There are border hoppers, There are legitimate people who APPLY for immigration. There are people who fly in on a visa and overstay. Averaging all the different immigration when you know DAMN well you are referring to ONE SPECIFIC type of immigration (border hoping) is INCREDIBLY deceptive and a complete lie. Cite some ACTUAL fucking evidence on border hoppers. But you wont.

#2 - Your statement in of itself is false. Instead of using feelings, why don't you use facts instead? FACT: 63% of Non-Citizens use government benefits programs compared to 35% of native households. https://cis.org/Report/63-NonCitizen-Households-Access-Welfare-Programs

 

[IronWing]

And you are entirely full of shit. To the fucking power of 12 billion you complete imbecile moron. Instead of using your feelings and the natural hard-on you get every time you hear the word "immigrate", why don't you use facts instead?

#1 - You cannot cite "immigrants" as a whole. There are illegal immigrants. There are asylum seekers. There are border hoppers, There are legitimate people who APPLY for immigration. There are people who fly in on a visa and overstay. Averaging all the different immigration when you know DAMN well you are referring to ONE SPECIFIC type of immigration (border hoping) is INCREDIBLY deceptive and a complete lie. Cite some ACTUAL fucking evidence on border hoppers. But you wont.

#2 - Your statement in of itself is false. Instead of using feelings, why don't you use facts instead? FACT: 63% of Non-Citizens use government benefits programs compared to 35% of native households. https://cis.org/Report/63-NonCitizen-Households-Access-Welfare-Programs

^^ Demands facts, quotes organization that gave journalism award to The Daily Caller.

 

[JSt0rm]

when the dust settles we will be rooting out anyone who followed these illegal orders and pressing charges against them.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

^^ Demands facts, quotes organization that gave journalism award to The Daily Caller.

>> Cites Nothing
>> Refuses facts based on.. reasons?
>> Not at all bias.