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SteveGrabowski

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God, what a month. River City Girls, Ni No Kuni, Ori, Dragon Quest XIS, and Link's Awakening are going to be must plays for me.


And right after I just got Astral Chain, which is a freaking blast with an amazing art style so far. Almost feels like I'm going to be doing all my gaming on Switch the rest of the year other than maybe the Yakuza 3 & 4 remasters on PS4.

Also didn't know Dragon Quest XIS has a much better soundtrack on Switch vs PS4. And you can play it in 2D mode like the 3DS version that never got localized for the west.
 

JujuFish

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What a month...if you like ports and remakes. I say that, but I'm tempted by DQ XI S and Link's Awakening. Would rather have the S additions added to PC though and I'm not paying 60 dollars for a remake of a quarter century old game that lasts for like 12 hours.
 

SteveGrabowski

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What a month...if you like ports and remakes. I say that, but I'm tempted by DQ XI S and Link's Awakening. Would rather have the S additions added to PC though and I'm not paying 60 dollars for a remake of a quarter century old game that lasts for like 12 hours.

I liked playing the Dragon Quest games handheld on 3DS, so I have been waiting for the Switch version to play DQXI. Plus I forgot to mention Untitled Goose Game, I have dying to play that one since seeing the first trailer. Then 2D games like Ori I greatly prefer on handheld.
 

cmdrdredd

Lifer
Dec 12, 2001
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I wasn’t into the gameboy much when link’s awakening came out. I will definitely buy it on the switch.
 
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DrMrLordX

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Also didn't know Dragon Quest XIS has a much better soundtrack on Switch vs PS4.

XIS probably has some other features that didn't make it to the PS4/PC version. Probably.

PC players of DQXI hated the soundtrack so much that they came out with an orchestral mod to fix the problem. Originally, Squeenix commissioned a full orchestral soundtrack:


but for whatever reason, the composer wanted the MIDI version used in the game. Or something. I don't know all the details. Anyway the mod works really well . . . only 2-3 pieces are left out of the game, somehow. I think the mod maker overlooked them. Only one stands out (one of them is a city-at-night theme that will play fairly frequently).

If Switch users get a better soundtrack, then great! The stock DQXI soundtrack isn't that good.
 
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purbeast0

No Lifer
Sep 13, 2001
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I picked up that Shantae Half Genie game last night so I have something to play on my flight tomorrow. I played the first 10 or so minutes. It has a really nice art style to it. I do hope it isn't as basic/simple as the first level I played because it was a bit too easy.

I am hoping I can get Link's Awakening at midnight on the 20th because I am going to be on a bus up to NYC at 6am and it would be a perfect time to play that game for a few hours.
 

purbeast0

No Lifer
Sep 13, 2001
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Pretty disappointed I can't find Link's Awakening anywhere tonight before I have to get on a bus tomorrow at 6am. But I didn't finish Shantae so I'll probably just go for that instead and will pick up Zelda at the Nintendo store in NYC for the ride back.

The closest I found today was a Walmart where it was on the shelf behind the glass but they had a sign covering it saying 'RELEASE 9/20/19' and I asked the guy at the register about it and he said they had to put that sign there because multiple people tried to buy it but the computer wouldn't let them ring it up.
 

Oyeve

Lifer
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Pretty disappointed I can't find Link's Awakening anywhere tonight before I have to get on a bus tomorrow at 6am. But I didn't finish Shantae so I'll probably just go for that instead and will pick up Zelda at the Nintendo store in NYC for the ride back.

The closest I found today was a Walmart where it was on the shelf behind the glass but they had a sign covering it saying 'RELEASE 9/20/19' and I asked the guy at the register about it and he said they had to put that sign there because multiple people tried to buy it but the computer wouldn't let them ring it up.
Can't you get a digital download first thing in the morning?
 

purbeast0

No Lifer
Sep 13, 2001
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I could download it but I'm not paying $60 full price for a game I don't have control over. I'd rather wait than take part in paying full price for digital download games that I can get physical for the same price.
 

purbeast0

No Lifer
Sep 13, 2001
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Ended up hitting up the Nintendo shop in NYC today and they still had some Dreamer editions left so I said fuck it and got it. I'm a Zelda mark and was like it's my fucking anniversary so might as well spoil myself. Tax in NYC is no joke though lol. I'm probably going to go back there before I leave and buy a few shirts and a hoodie or two. They have some awesome clothing in there and this awesome Zelda hoodie.

I'm glad I didn't go out of my way to get it last night either because I played games on the bus for like an hour. I was tired as shit and in/out of sleep for a while, then played for a bit and started to feel a bit car sick.

I probably won't start Zelda till I finish Shantae though cause I know I won't go back to it. It's a good game though, I'm just not good at juggling story games.

They also had a ton of the Amiibo's for Link's Awakening too. Had some cool stuff on display too.



 

cmdrdredd

Lifer
Dec 12, 2001
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Ended up hitting up the Nintendo shop in NYC today and they still had some Dreamer editions left so I said fuck it and got it. I'm a Zelda mark and was like it's my fucking anniversary so might as well spoil myself. Tax in NYC is no joke though lol. I'm probably going to go back there before I leave and buy a few shirts and a hoodie or two. They have some awesome clothing in there and this awesome Zelda hoodie.

I'm glad I didn't go out of my way to get it last night either because I played games on the bus for like an hour. I was tired as shit and in/out of sleep for a while, then played for a bit and started to feel a bit car sick.

I probably won't start Zelda till I finish Shantae though cause I know I won't go back to it. It's a good game though, I'm just not good at juggling story games.

They also had a ton of the Amiibo's for Link's Awakening too. Had some cool stuff on display too.




That sounds cool as hell to be honest.
 

SteveGrabowski

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Oct 20, 2014
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I'm really not liking Nintendo's decision to use dynamic resolution with double buffer vsync. I wish they would have just stuck to 720p60 or 1080p30 when docked instead of trying to do 1080p60, then having these jarring drops to 30 fps when the Switch can't handle it . It's really distracting IMO. Maybe I should wait for Nintendo to fix this before playing.

EDIT: Though I can't put the game down lol, probably won't wait for a patch.
 
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JJChicken

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Really tempted to get a switch / switch lite.

Bit older these days, I bought a PS4 Pro a while back and barely used it — was put off by the added complexity vs PS2 (yeah I am an old geezer, I’m sure the PS4 wasn’t that hard to set up correctly).

How is the switch? All I want to do is plug in and play without any game updates / firmware updates / login screens etc

And somebody please talk me out of the Switch Lite, I know I shouldn’t compromise and lose dock in feature / replaceable joysticks but I’m so tempted by the smaller size!
 

purbeast0

No Lifer
Sep 13, 2001
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Really tempted to get a switch / switch lite.

Bit older these days, I bought a PS4 Pro a while back and barely used it — was put off by the added complexity vs PS2 (yeah I am an old geezer, I’m sure the PS4 wasn’t that hard to set up correctly).

How is the switch? All I want to do is plug in and play without any game updates / firmware updates / login screens etc

And somebody please talk me out of the Switch Lite, I know I shouldn’t compromise and lose dock in feature / replaceable joysticks but I’m so tempted by the smaller size!
Get it. It is plug and play with hardly any updates, and when they do have em, it's very fast. The system updates take seconds.

Getting a new game you just put it in and play it. No installation or any of that bs.

Switch is my most played console, with PS4 behind it solely because of PSVR, and Xbox One pretty much collecting dust.
 
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SteveGrabowski

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Really tempted to get a switch / switch lite.

Bit older these days, I bought a PS4 Pro a while back and barely used it — was put off by the added complexity vs PS2 (yeah I am an old geezer, I’m sure the PS4 wasn’t that hard to set up correctly).

How is the switch? All I want to do is plug in and play without any game updates / firmware updates / login screens etc

And somebody please talk me out of the Switch Lite, I know I shouldn’t compromise and lose dock in feature / replaceable joysticks but I’m so tempted by the smaller size!

Any modern system has game and firmware updates. They're smaller than on PS4 since the games are smaller, but they're there. And Nintendo does firmware updates a lot (often when releasing new first party titles) since Nvidia screwed up on the Tegra X1 and left a huge security hole in it that leaves Switches manufactured in the first year and a half they were on the market open to custom firmware.

A few reasons to go Switch over Switch Lite:

1. Super Mario Odyssey is much better docked using split joycons (one in each hand) to take advantage of the motion controls. It's a really good game handheld too, but the motion controls and HD Rumble are really well executed in the game and need split joycon use I think.
2. Xenoblade Chronicles 2 takes some pretty enormous hits to resolution played handheld. In handheld mode it teeters between looking like a great Gamecube game to a poor PS3 game graphically.
3. Zelda BOTW really should be played docked sometimes for the grand views. While Switch is pretty far from a graphical powerhouse, art style always trumps raw horsepower IMO and BOTW's art is just stunning on the bigscreen even though it's only running 720p.

I don't mean to crap on the handheld though. Zelda BOTW absolutely should be played handheld too, it really works both ways. It's the kind of game you can get lost in for hours docked or just explore quickly for 15 minutes handheld during your lunch break or taking the dog out to run around the yard. And the vast majority of Switch games are amazing handheld (I'd guess I play my Switch 60/40 handheld vs docked).

Now 2.5 years in Switch has a really strong library. I already think it's Nintendo's best console since SNES. Though you saying you barely touched your PS4 sends warning bells off as to whether you'd be into Switch, as PS4 has IMO the best library of any console since PS2 (nothing is ever touching the quality of the PS2's library). I'm an old man gamer too and I find PS4 to be absolutely loaded with top notch games. Especially great single player exclusive content while I have been very turned off by AAA games focusing now so much on multiplayer and microtransactions. For single player gaming I think both Switch and PS4 are essential.

Switch Lite is a great product, but I look at it as the kids' Switch since it's cheaper, supposedly more durable, and since they won't take up your TV using it. Regular Switch is the adult Switch IMO, the one for when you don't have to ask permission to put it on the bigscreen. And it's really great as a handheld too. A little bigger than Switch Lite and feels a little less solidly built in hand than say the 3DS, Vita, PSP, DS, or Gameboy, but no problem for an adult who knows how to take care of his stuff. A carrying case is essential for full Switch though.
 
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JJChicken

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Thanks for the feedback purbeast0 and SteveGarbowski. Good to know the Switch Library is really good.

I think I’ll make the jump and get the new Switch (not lite), for the reasons you stated above. Would have been awesome if the lite had a docked mode

Yeah I haven’t been into games much since PS2 and then a few PC games, always wanted to play but get distracted once I get going and the startup mental costs of setting up a game always got to me.

However these days I’m pretty bored so makes it the right time to jump back in.
 

SteveGrabowski

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Thanks for the feedback purbeast0 and SteveGarbowski. Good to know the Switch Library is really good.

I think I’ll make the jump and get the new Switch (not lite), for the reasons you stated above. Would have been awesome if the lite had a docked mode

Yeah I haven’t been into games much since PS2 and then a few PC games, always wanted to play but get distracted once I get going and the startup mental costs of setting up a game always got to me.

However these days I’m pretty bored so makes it the right time to jump back in.

The Switch library is pretty fantastic. Obviously Super Mario Odyssey and Zelda Breath of the Wild are must plays. Xenoblade Chronicles 2 is excellent if you like RPG. Super Mario Maker 2 is, just counting the built-in levels, IMO the best 2D Mario game to come out since at least New Super Mario Bros on DS, and maybe even Super Mario World on SNES. Zelda Link's Awakening is awesome and will feel right at home if you're a fan of A Link to the Past. Astral Chain and Bayonetta 2 are first rate action games. Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze is a really good platformer. Untitled Goose Game and Donut Country are just dumb fun if you want something to make you laugh. What Remains of Edith Finch is a really creative casual game with lots of cool minigames and a great story, though I played it on PC and can't comment how the performance is on Switch (or PS4). Cuphead is a hard as hell sidescroller that makes NES Mega Man games look easy, but God that 1930's animation style is beautiful. Guacamelee is another great Metroidvania kind of game, very funny and hard as hell. Then Dragon Quest XI comes out this Friday, which I can't wait for. Plus Switch has a lot of remasters of beloved previous gen games like Skyrim, Dark Souls, Bayonetta, and Ni No Kuni if you never got to those (though all of those except Bayonetta are on PS4 also). You'll also see some PS2 remasters, though the only one I can think of off hand is Katamari Damacy.

But I wouldn't sleep on PS4. It is absolutely loaded with some of the best games ever made. Bloodborne really feels like the modern gen spiritual successor to Castlevania with its difficulty, gorgeous setting, and rewarding combat. To me it's the best game I have played in at least the last 25 years. NieR Automata is probably my favorite action game ever made with really fun combat and an open world that doesn't feel too big or overwhelming (eg the opposite of Red Dead Redemption 2) and a wild and interesting story like you see in anything made by Yoko Taro. Persona 5 is probably my favorite turn based RPG since Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne back on PS2. It's nowhere near as difficult and the battle system isn't as deep as Nocturne, though Persona is a spinoff from Shin Megami Tensei. Just amazing music and a great art style too, but it's about being in high school as well and dungeon crawling and that turns some people off. Yakuza 0 feels like a modern gen spiritual successor to Streets of Rage since the game is mostly a beat 'em up, but it's also filled with tons of great side content. Not go collect 100 of these gems and go to 20 different viewpoints side content; instead more like interesting minigames such as a running a hostess club, slot car racing, mahjong, or going to the arcade and playing Outrun or Space Harrier. Then the side missions are really funny. Plus it has a really well written story on top of that. There is also Horizon Zero Dawn, which is a pretty killer open world game with lots of interesting combat and jaw dropping graphics. If you haven't played The Last of Us, it's also pretty interesting for one of the greatest stories ever told in gaming. And since you're a PS2 fan, you might be interested in the remake of Shadow of the Colossus. It still feels like the same game, same controls, but with a very impressive graphical makeover. Bluepoint did a hell of a job with the remake.
 
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nakedfrog

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Ended up hitting up the Nintendo shop in NYC today and they still had some Dreamer editions left so I said fuck it and got it. I'm a Zelda mark and was like it's my fucking anniversary so might as well spoil myself. Tax in NYC is no joke though lol. I'm probably going to go back there before I leave and buy a few shirts and a hoodie or two. They have some awesome clothing in there and this awesome Zelda hoodie.

I'm glad I didn't go out of my way to get it last night either because I played games on the bus for like an hour. I was tired as shit and in/out of sleep for a while, then played for a bit and started to feel a bit car sick.

I probably won't start Zelda till I finish Shantae though cause I know I won't go back to it. It's a good game though, I'm just not good at juggling story games.

They also had a ton of the Amiibo's for Link's Awakening too. Had some cool stuff on display too.



Neat, a couple Game & Watches I hadn't seen before.
 

local

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Really don't want to read through 2,297 posts so I'll just ask. Bought a Switch for my twins 6th birthday last week, first Nintendo for me since SNES, and I am looking for recommendations on awesome kid level games. Something where they can play together but don't have to really read. Currently they are tearing up MarioKart 8, one of them even beat me on a race and that cannot stand.
 

nurturedhate

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Really don't want to read through 2,297 posts so I'll just ask. Bought a Switch for my twins 6th birthday last week, first Nintendo for me since SNES, and I am looking for recommendations on awesome kid level games. Something where they can play together but don't have to really read. Currently they are tearing up MarioKart 8, one of them even beat me on a race and that cannot stand.
That's a long list of basically the best selling switch games. Off the top of my head though (have a 6 and 11yr old):
Snipper Clips
Crash Bandicoot Nsane trilogy
Spyro Reignited
New Super Mario Wii U Deluxe for the Switch
Super Mario Oddyssy
Super Smash Bros
Super Mario Maker
Super Mario Party
Overcooked 2
Yoshi's Crafted World
Kirby Star Allies
Crash Team Racing Nitro Fueled
Sonic Mania Plus
Arms

There's plenty of 100% valid choices. There's so much more than those games listed as well and still more to come (especially with Luigi's Mansion and Pikmin coming)
 

local

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Jun 28, 2011
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That's a long list of basically the best selling switch games. Off the top of my head though (have a 6 and 11yr old):
Snipper Clips
Crash Bandicoot Nsane trilogy
Spyro Reignited
New Super Mario Wii U Deluxe for the Switch
Super Mario Oddyssy
Super Smash Bros
Super Mario Maker
Super Mario Party
Overcooked 2
Yoshi's Crafted World
Kirby Star Allies
Crash Team Racing Nitro Fueled
Sonic Mania Plus
Arms

There's plenty of 100% valid choices. There's so much more than those games listed as well and still more to come (especially with Luigi's Mansion and Pikmin coming)

Thanks, I knew the Switch was basically the option for kids I just don't know what is decent on it these days.
 
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