Lol. The music industry is not thriving. Are u nuts? You wish it was thriving because then all of the problems surrounding piracy go away.
They make music for low income people and girls aged 9-14 and that's it. Lol. Congrats. When all your rock stars are dead and you can't find any new music you only have yourself to blame.
Do u even wonder why superman is flying thru a house of fucking pancakes in a fucking 150 million dollar movie and John waters and David lynch haven't made a film in over a decade?
Mid budget studio films are dead. Enjoy your endless regurgitated people in tights saving the fucking planet while surrounded by corporate adverts selling you some shitty thing.
Hell no. Streaming content puts a lot of power in the hands of the creators and its super convenient for you zeros. Win/win. Unless u don't want to pay for the products you consume. Then u are an asshole.
The music industry is dead.
Streaming content puts a lot of power in the hands of the creators and its super convenient for you zeros. Win/win.
Do u even wonder why superman is flying thru a house of fucking pancakes in a fucking 150 million dollar movie and John waters and David lynch haven't made a film in over a decade?
Mid budget studio films are dead.
Lol. The music industry is not thriving. Are u nuts? You wish it was thriving because then all of the problems surrounding piracy go away.
Actually your entire attitude in this thread and your absolute disregard (even outright contempt) for consumer's fair usage rights leads me to believe you have links to the entertainment industry, most of us are pretty sure you're the asshole.
Fairly certain he does work in the industry. Audio for TV or something? The bias shows.
Video killed the radio star...yeah yeah yeah.
Buying CDs and playing them on PC/iPod killed the music star?!
So this is the kind of post I expect to see when someone like you cannot defend a chosen position in an argument.
Maybe some just find very little value in the products the music and movie industry provide. Let us review, a family of four trip to the movies will set you back roughly $40 just for the tickets, add on any ridiculously overpriced drinks and snacks you may wish to have. Then later comes the BluRay release, roughly $20 for a cheap piece of plastic that sets them back less than a dollar total in manufacturing. You may watch it once, maybe twice. The exceptions being kid's movies, they get played to death, thus why I like to rip and convert them for use on my WHS where they can easily be streamed to any television in the household without me ever having to touch the disc again. No thanks, I'm not buying your shit (children's movies being an exception)...I'll just keep my Netflix + 3 BluRay at a time.
Let's turn to the "destroyed" music industry (yet I'm sure there are plenty left making money hand over fist). I haven't bought an album in probably over a decade and don't foresee me doing so in the future. I don't see $12 in value from a CD, but I will however gladly pay ~$12 a month to Spotify to stream pretty much whatever I want, when I want. They have reached what most consumers dictate as a "fair value", and the user base numbers show it.
In stark contrast to this, my Steam Library sits at about 300 games. Mind you, very, very few of these are of the "humble bundle" variety. Most consist of AAA, day 1 releases including additional season passes, etc. I don't own a single pirated game, not one. I find value in something that I can actively participate in for hours on end versus a passive experience that lasts ~2 hours. Yet the movie industry wants to charge me similar prices, fuck them, they are the assholes.
Actually your entire attitude in this thread and your absolute disregard (even outright contempt) for consumer's fair usage rights leads me to believe you have links to the entertainment industry, most of us are pretty sure you're the asshole.
They make music for low income people and girls aged 9-14 and that's it. Lol. Congrats. When all your rock stars are dead and you can't find any new music you only have yourself to blame.
This point contradicts this other point you tried to make:
Either the music industry is dead or streaming/digitally purchased content is the future. 70% of music revenues come from distribution option you say is best for video:
Because John Waters and David Lynch are overrated? A lot of the talented directors have moved to TV where the budgets are getting larger and the serial nature allows for deeper storytelling than can fit in a feature movie.
No they aren't. John Wick ring a bell? Beasts of No Nation? Ex Machina? That are just a few off of the top of my head that did well.
Music industry stopped thriving when they stopped making real music and selling meaningless sleazy music hidden behind a pretty face or skimpy clothes or gangsters. Only hormone imbalanced teenagers or unemployed dead weights like that shit and they don't have money to pay for it.
Fairly certain he does work in the industry. Audio for TV or something? The bias shows.
I got a lot more entertainment AND education from truly free non-commercial Youtube videos than mainstream TV/movie stuff I don't even bother to follow let alone pirate, and this is even after discounting video games. He and the industry he is in can die for all I care.
That's about the shallowest, narrowest viewpoint of the music industry I have seen. There's TONS of great, new music being made (and pressed to CD/vinyl AND released digitally) every fucking day.
If all YOU care to tune into is Ryan Seacrest's top forty, that's your issue. But to say the music industry is completely dead is ridiculous.
To not see that the big guns in the music (and TV/movie) industry did not keep up with technology and the demand of their customers is ignorant. Times changed, and they did not change with it. The small, nimble companies are filling in the holes that they left open.
The music industry is dead and streaming video content is the future.
Spotify is not producing music.
Soooo if iTunes and Spotify killed the music industry, why won't iTunes and Hulu kill the video industry?
Neither are record label executives who got their livelihood ruined since 1999. The talent makes the music.
You are going to say something like "it takes way more money to make decent video content," but the hundreds of millions of people who watch amatuer video on Youtube think overwise.
He and the industry he is in can die for all I care.
You are correct. There is lots of good music being made. But it's not industry stuff. You won't see major pushes behind artists that don't appeal to those 2 groups I mentioned unless it's tied to a film.
You know who else failed? The horse and buggy makers that thought the horseless carriage fad wasn't going to catch on.
$2500 from 34 million streams = a healthy industry.
Content creators will win in the end as they need us to do what we do. You all need us to do what we do.
I watch amateur content on YouTube as well. Is that all you watch?
I'm talking to the red squirrels of the world with $5000 media delivery servers with 100k worth of content on them that they paid nothing for.
That isn't the whole story though. We don't know how many of those streams led to a digital purchase on a service like iTunes. It is basically paid-for radio. The point is promotion.
Not really. It is just entertainment. In 2016 there are many ways to be entertained.
The people in this thread love their movies, hence our passion, but the world is moving on without a stubborn Hollywood. For example, Millennials right now consume more online video (like Youtube) than any other source of video:
In a point relevant to this dicussion, they also watch more content on a laptop/mobile device than a TV:
That should be a wake up call to people in your industry that you either play ball or the world will move on without you. Entrepreneurs like PewDiePie are willing to find a way to make it work and entertain people at the prices you scoff at.
No, but I am getting older. The young people in this country sure as hell go to Youtube first for entertainment, not the cable box or a Blu Ray disc.
Even if that made up red herring really refers to an actual demographic of person (which I doubt, $5k is a lot for a media server for someone that doesn't buy media), that demographic is such a minority in the overall scheme of things that they don't really matter to this discussion. They certainly aren't stopped 1% by AnyDVD getting turned into a torrentable only item itself.
What matters is how MOST people consume content, and the trends show that most young people aren't going to jump through whatever hoops "professional" media companies demand to access their content. My generation will because we are brand whores, but future generations will do without. The Hollywood will be what the train industry is today- a has been. Well except for companies like Netflix and HBO that "get it."
The numbers are virtually tied between online video and online subscription video.
The subscription model is better for video as you are getting paid for your work by the company. They then entice you with that content and sell subscriptions. This is the future.
As for music, you know people aren't buying portishead. They are streaming it.
But I like how you changed your tune when you realized the artists aren't getting shit. Now it is about dc sales from exposure, ok then what do your charts show again? Lol
You admit to being on a netflix 3 bluray plan and ripping those to your library and then call me an asshole? Lol. Fuck you.
Artists don't see any revenue from spotify and other streaming services.
Also comments like this are complete shit. I work in an industry that is exporting product from the us to around the world. When u buy a film you are buying a product from your own country (aside from location stuff). The idea you would want to see an American industry be wiped off the map for your own selfish reasons just shows how poisonous pirating actually is.