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sdifox

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http://www.brentonfilm.com/reference/blu-ray-and-dvd-region-codes-and-video-standards

read more you fucking idiots:

Blu-ray

Blu-ray discs do not use either PAL or NTSC coding but rather are 1080p (p: pixels, of vertical resolution) worldwide standard. Beware that there are a tiny minority encoded at 1080i50Hz – sometimes called “1080p 25fps” on the sleeve. They’re basically 1080p content at PAL framerates, and can’t be viewed on US or Canadian TVs without a framerate converter built into the player. It will either send out a signal your display can’t show properly, or just default to a black screen.


I like how you didn't bold the part everyone has been telling you.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
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i never argued that. I was talking about framerates.

Dont quit your day job.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
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you guys huddling in dark corners trying to figure out how to move the goal posts again?

Yeah this thread is ownage of the year. All of you lose. First time in the history of the forums 12 boobs are all wrong.
 

CZroe

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you guys huddling in dark corners trying to figure out how to move the goal posts again?

Yeah this thread is ownage of the year. All of you lose. First time in the history of the forums 12 boobs are all wrong.
Nope. Doing what I said I was going to do. This will involve setting up playback software, ripping and burning discs, and taking BD players from one apartment to another. It'll take a little time. In the mean time, prepare to be shamed.


Ooooooh! Look what I have here.
 
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JSt0rm

Lifer
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Retard, You can change the frame rate of the file in your computer. MPEG stream clip does this easy. Why would you making another bluray disk prove anything other then you converted the media?
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
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So this is the new goalpost? You can convert pal? Yeah no fucking shit.
 

CZroe

Lifer
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Retard, You can change the frame rate of the file in your computer. MPEG stream clip does this easy. Why would you making another bluray disk prove anything other then you converted the media?

Prepare for shame.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
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Send it to me. I'll convert it into anything. Fucking lol. Apple prores 60fps? No problem.
 

CZroe

Lifer
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Retard, You can change the frame rate of the file in your computer. MPEG stream clip does this easy. Why would you making another bluray disk prove anything other then you converted the media?
I don't have to convert anything and the disc is only one of many things I'll be doing. I'll also be demonstrating PC playback with and without AnyDVD HD enabled. Sit back and enjoy the shame.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
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I believe you can take that and put it in a computer and do anything. That was never the argument.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
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Anydvd is probably doing a real time fps conversion and you think it's magic. Lol.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
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Forgetting that the pal formatted bluray is 25fps and won't play on your tv? That was what we initially were talking about... You said it was the region lock. I said it was the fps. Remember? Now you want to do what? Be an idiot more? Ok go ahead.
 

CZroe

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Anydvd is probably doing a real time fps conversion and you think it's magic. Lol.

AnyDVD does not play back the discs at all. It removes the protection in real time so that your normal playback software sees the disc as if it were region free and unencrypted. The software sees the original format 100%. Go on demonstrating your expertise on the subject.
 

JSt0rm

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And I'm sure software called anydvd also convert pal to NTSC or to frames readable by your tv. Just fucking stop.
 

CZroe

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Forgetting that the pal formatted bluray is 25fps and won't play on your tv? That was what we initially were talking about... You said it was the region lock. I said it was the fps. Remember? Now you want to do what? Be an idiot more? Ok go ahead.

...and that's exactly what burning the disc is intended to prove. The burned disc will demonstrate that the 25/50 frame rate will play perfectly because it is being handled by the player.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
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Anydvd does change frame rates. I just googled it. You probably don't even have to think about it.
 

CZroe

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And I'm sure software called anydvd also convert pal to NTSC or to frames readable by your tv. Just fucking stop.



Dead wrong. AnyDVD does not touch the video format AT ALL. It specifically allows your usual tools and players to access the unmodified files. You're also crazy if you think I planned on just putting the disc in without demonstrating that it was 50hz first.
 
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JSt0rm

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If you check the boxes for the different regions it's gonna do what it needs to make it play, including changing the frame rate. But please burn a bluray disk and spend a bunch of time on your science experiment.
 

CZroe

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If you check the boxes for the different regions it's gonna do what it needs to make it play, including changing the frame rate. But please burn a bluray disk and spend a bunch of time on your science experiment.

I literally laughed out loud.
 

JSt0rm

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Ok Anydvd does not do conversion. You are still asking me to trust you to not do a conversion.
 

Ichinisan

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PAL or NTSC is a signal format. The encoded video in the Blu-Ray disc is neither "PAL" nor "NTSC."
yes it is but that bluray has a certain resolution and a certain frame rate.

No. It's not PAL. It has some of the properties of PAL (resolution and frame rate), but PAL is a signal format. I understand why people conflate PAL with other things. Do you?



A comparable example: If I take a European SNES game and defeat the region lockout with a CIC chip bypass, does my TV say "unsupported video format?" It does not. We're talking about the same thing here. The video signal is generated by the SNES console, not the game cartridge content. Likewise, a "PAL" signal from a Blu-Ray player is generated by the player, not by the movie on the disc. Now *maybe* there's some special PAL color encoding for some variant of MPEG4 that might lend some credence to your line of thought, but that's not what we're talking about here.

We are talking about a video file that played perfectly fine on the the same hardware (PS3+TV) after the original disc failed *only* -- due ONLY to the region code flag of the original disc. The file was not re-encoded. It was simply decrypted and played back from a USB stick.
he played it on his htpc via a dvi to hdmi converter. This turned it into any other "file" and as I'm sure you know you can play back any fram rate and resolution on a computer. He turned his tv into a monitor.

No. Read again. We played it from the USB stick, connected directly to the PS3. The same PS3 and the same TV that was unable to play it from the Blu-Ray disc. The TV receives a 60hz signal from the Blu-Ray player (PS3) because the Blu-Ray player the BDA mandates that all players convert the source content to the selected output mode.






Apparently you learned how to perpetuate the conflation of region-locking with PAL video signals
When he made it a file and played it back on his computer none of the pal issue presented themselves, as expected.
Wrong. Once again: READ

- The software BD player on PC exhibited the same problem as the PS3 while AnyDVD was disabled and not removing region restrictions.
- The file was played back on the same PS3 and TV that refused to play the region-locked BD disc.


Later. I'll respond to you first.


So look back to retards post shows the specs of that bluray... look for the aspect ratio. What do you see?

You are ignored czroe so I dont see anything you type
The aspect ratio is 4:3 which would at first blush suggest SD. However, the resolution is 1080i which isn't standard definition.

I'm pretty sure you can buy things like older TV shows on BD that are also 4:3 aspect ratio. I'm not sure you can assume anything from the aspect ratio alone. You have to look at the encoding of the source material.

Even new films are shot in 4:3 at times. The Grand Budapest Hotel played around with aspect ratios. Almost the entire movie takes place in an older timeline and everything is displayed in 4:3...but still glorious high definition.

We arent talking about that.

Are you sure? :hmm:
 

JSt0rm

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Yeah I just read more. So I was wrong about some software I don't use. I fucking own it when I'm wrong. I'm not wrong about 25fps 1080i pal bluray playing on your fucking tv.
 
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