Goodbye SlySoft and AnyDVD

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JSt0rm

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Yeah that's pretty much in line with the rest of the thread.


fuck off. I expressed my discontent with the way things are as a professional. And after that you guys tried to hit me on some technical shit that I was right on. So who the fuck are you again? A bitch.


Your cursing has gotten excessive. Settle down.

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Ichinisan

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Talked to my brother and realized I was wrong about his process for getting his Interstella 5555 rip to play on PS3 from a USB stick. You can't just dump the decrypted content on the stick because it exceeds FAT32 file size limits and the PS3 won't accept any other filesystem for a USB stick (tried exFAT and NTFS on 32GB Corsair Voyager USB 3.0). Whatever technique he used to produce this m4v file, it shows "25fps" in VLC.

VLC Media Information for Interstella m4v rip said:
Stream 0
Type: Video
Codec: H264 - MPEG-4 AVC (part 10) (avc1)
Resolution: 1424x1090
Display resolution: 1422x1078
Frame rate: 25
Decoded format: Planar 4:2:0 YUV
Stream 1
Type Audio
Codec: MPEG AAC Audio (mp4a)
Language: French
Channels: Stereo
Sample rate: 48000 Hz
Stream 2
Type: Subtitle
Codec: tx3g

That's the old file that we've watched (the only way we've ever watched it since the BD wouldn't play). Today, my brother used my computer on his lunch break and installed FFMPEG. It produced a folder+file structure without any reencoding whatsoever. I can play those files directly only my PS3 by browsing the folders, but the audio isn't there, so something else needs to be done. Anyway, the PS3 can play the video that we ripped from the BD without reencoding. AnyDVD enables legit consumers more than it enables pirates who would just download the content instead of making it work.

I probably should have tried to use AnyDVD to rip a raw movie so I could watch Sunshine on that improperly mastered disc, but my brother already gave it away to another family member (and he's almost certainly going to have the same problem when he tries to watch it).
 

Ichinisan

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Do you have to re-buy your software everytime?

They switched to "Slysoft" before cracking BD, when it was just for DVDs and they were being targeted for having DVD decryption. I only bought it after they became "Slysoft," and it had been some time after they added BD support. They said the lifetime license was going to be discontinued, so I bought it before that happened. Still, they kept extending the lifetime license offer for a long, long time.
 
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JSt0rm

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ok thats great. I always said if your ps3 treats "files" as files it would play. Randomly buying a pal bluray and complaining about region codes is ridiculous. Dont buy gray market and you will be fine. As I said, it does suck sometimes because as a movie buff I know you may want a certain version. In those cases be a true moviefile and get a European bluray player. Those play both ntsc and pal content.
 

JSt0rm

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They switched to "Slysoft" before cracking BD, when it was just for DVDs and they were being targeted for having DVD decryption. I only bought it after they became "Slysoft," and it had been some time after they added BD support. They said the lifetime license was not going to be offered, so I bought it. Still, they kept extending the lifetime license offer for a long, long time.


oh so they switched again just before 4k blurays come out. lol.
 

Ichinisan

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ok thats great. I always said if your ps3 treats "files" as files it would play. Randomly buying a pal bluray and complaining about region codes is ridiculous. Dont buy gray market and you will be fine. As I said, it does suck sometimes because as a movie buff I know you may want a certain version. In those cases be a true moviefile and get a European bluray player. Those play both ntsc and pal content.

"Gray market."

It's still the first product that comes up when you search Amazon for "Interstella 5555." Try it.

http://www.amazon.com/s/field-keywords=interstella+5555

I can see how a lot of people would buy this without a clue -- especially those who see the part that incorrectly says "region free."
 

JoeBleed

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All that shit can be done faster then realtime. You think there would be a issue doing it in realtime? Lol

More stuff supporting me

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=158455

Reading your provided link, it comes down to the ps3 not being on the list of players that support internal conversion according to someone in that thread that posted a link to players that will/will not play any fps/hz discs. apparently it's a cost cutting issue. seems fitting sony would do this to the ps3.

Course, i didn't look at the player list. I don't care. I don't want a blu-ray player because everyone i've seen SUCK. Mostly due to the standards/implementation of Blu-ray. I've bought one or two Blu-rays from Amazon UK because the US version either weren't available or were done very badly. A current one i'm might buy is Star Trek TNG. I've had no issues playing in on my PC directly from the disc. No ripping, no conversion. I unfortunately don't remember which one(s) they were so i can't check much of anything. Wonder if Amazon UK order history is separate.

Edit: most recent was the Harry Potter blu-ray set. http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...ter blu-ray&qid=1457241354&ref_=sr_1_1&sr=8-1

Nothing about PAL/NTSC or fps.

Here is the info Media Player Classic HC give me from "The Philosopher's Stone" disc
Video: WVC1 1920x1080 23.976fps [V: vc-1 advanced L3, yuv420p, 1920x1080]
Audio: TrueHD 48000Hz 6ch 6912kbps [A: English [eng] (truehd, 48000 Hz, 5.1, s24)]
Audio: Dolby AC3 48000Hz 6ch 448kbps [A: English [eng] (ac3, 48000 Hz, 5.1, 448 kb/s) [sub]]
Audio: 0x4448 48000Hz 6ch 4608kbps [A: English [eng] (pcm_bluray, 48000 Hz, 5.1, s16, 4608 kb/s)]
Audio: Dolby AC3 48000Hz stereo 192kbps [A: English [eng] (ac3, 48000 Hz, stereo, 192 kb/s)]
Subtitle [S: English [eng] (pgs)]
Subtitle [S: English [eng] (pgs)]

probably doesn't help, but i can post the info from one of my x-files disks i'm currently watching.

Edit2: oh, maybe someone following this thread in the UK that has this set can post what info they get from their player?
 
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alan1476

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But yet you all own the software. LOL. You guys do realize while your fighting with each other that there are places in the world, many of them that you are allowed to make a personal copy of the video you bought and own. No Belize is not in South America, it is another beautiful Island in the Carribean, with 183 beaches and 50 times as many beautiful naked women lying on towels. What a place to work, I dont care what you do.
 

Charmonium

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But yet you all own the software. LOL. You guys do realize while your fighting with each other that there are places in the world, many of them that you are allowed to make a personal copy of the video you bought and own. No Belize is not in South America, it is another beautiful Island in the Carribean, with 183 beaches and 50 times as many beautiful naked women lying on towels. What a place to work, I dont care what you do.
Just for the record, Belize is in Central America to the east of Guatemala. It also borders the Yucatan area of Mexico.
 

JSt0rm

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Reading your provided link, it comes down to the ps3 not being on the list of players that support internal conversion according to someone in that thread that posted a link to players that will/will not play any fps/hz discs. apparently it's a cost cutting issue. seems fitting sony would do this to the ps3.

Course, i didn't look at the player list. I don't care. I don't want a blu-ray player because everyone i've seen SUCK. Mostly due to the standards/implementation of Blu-ray. I've bought one or two Blu-rays from Amazon UK because the US version either weren't available or were done very badly. A current one i'm might buy is Star Trek TNG. I've had no issues playing in on my PC directly from the disc. No ripping, no conversion. I unfortunately don't remember which one(s) they were so i can't check much of anything. Wonder if Amazon UK order history is separate.

Edit: most recent was the Harry Potter blu-ray set. http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...ter blu-ray&qid=1457241354&ref_=sr_1_1&sr=8-1

Nothing about PAL/NTSC or fps.

Here is the info Media Player Classic HC give me from "The Philosopher's Stone" disc
Video: WVC1 1920x1080 23.976fps [V: vc-1 advanced L3, yuv420p, 1920x1080]
Audio: TrueHD 48000Hz 6ch 6912kbps [A: English [eng] (truehd, 48000 Hz, 5.1, s24)]
Audio: Dolby AC3 48000Hz 6ch 448kbps [A: English [eng] (ac3, 48000 Hz, 5.1, 448 kb/s) [sub]]
Audio: 0x4448 48000Hz 6ch 4608kbps [A: English [eng] (pcm_bluray, 48000 Hz, 5.1, s16, 4608 kb/s)]
Audio: Dolby AC3 48000Hz stereo 192kbps [A: English [eng] (ac3, 48000 Hz, stereo, 192 kb/s)]
Subtitle [S: English [eng] (pgs)]
Subtitle [S: English [eng] (pgs)]

probably doesn't help, but i can post the info from one of my x-files disks i'm currently watching.

Edit2: oh, maybe someone following this thread in the UK that has this set can post what info they get from their player?

You aren't understanding the issue and I'm done explaining it.
 

JoeBleed

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You aren't understanding the issue and I'm done explaining it.

I don't think you understand the issue. Your comments are all over the place, in a lot of instances you are either ignoring part of what they are saying or you don't under stand either what they are saying, or what the software does. As i said, my info came from your posted link. I can play the UK bought Blu-ray disc on my computer. sure you're saying my computer should have no problem. Neither should any other stand alone player for these disc. The HP disks set i have is listed as region free. If i had a stand alone player, it should work fine. The interstellar 555 thing is having either JUST region code issues, or they also screwed up the disc authoring. We'll know more if he can rip the disc and copy it to his ps3 over the network since a sub drive doesn't work. But unless a firmware update fixed it, per the list mentioned in the doom9 thread, it may still not work as the ps3 wasn't listed as able to play back and adjust 25fps/50hz video. If that's how the disc was actually authored. How else would you expect a region free disk to work in all regions?

However, apparently some companies are making/have made discs with the video encoded badly following old standards. Anyone authoring blu-rays today, it would seem, should be using the same configuration for all regions and the players output to the correct TV display will accept. If the industry would drop region codes and delayed releases world wide, it would be a lot better for everyone.

And in my example, how would it not be relevant if someone in the UK has the same set and can report the info theirs plays back? Seems relevant as you seem to claim it should be in the wrong fps and hz range.

How do you author blu-ray discs? video spec wise.

I'm sure i have some off region coded DVDs in my collection, but i don't remember what they are. I don't feel like looking through them all to find them as i don't think it matters in this discussion. But they also played on my computer, directly from the disc, with region code disabled. I also remember region free stand alone players being sold.
 

JoeBleed

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ok thats great. I always said if your ps3 treats "files" as files it would play. ............ In those cases be a true moviefile and get a European bluray player. Those play both ntsc and pal content.

can you explain more clearly what you mean by, "treats "files" as files"?


And what do you mean buy a European blu-ray player. as you stated, it isn't up to the player to output the right video.


though that has been proven wrong unless you have a cheap, even crapper than normal player. It's region codes/flags and shitty authoring that needs to go away.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
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if you notice everyone else has basically conceded the issue so if you want to continue on your own then you are gonna be doing that alone.
 

JoeBleed

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I've read the thread enough. You aren't making a lot of sense. You continue to be petty and not offer many explanations, only insults or unclear answers. And to think, you accused me of attacking you once i knew roughly what you did. That didn't happen. Well, you tried to say i did, but i didn't.

But you, you come in here calling people names, you even got warned by a mod. To think, you have asked several questions on these forums for help doing different things over your years of being here, yet you don't seem to care to help others. If people are dropping it, it's probably because they're tired of dealing with your and your insults.

Stop calling everyone pirates while you're at it.
 

JSt0rm

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be butt hurt then. But if you dont understand we are all talking about a 1080i50hz bluray after 50 posts then I dont know what to tell you.
 

JoeBleed

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be butt hurt then. But if you dont understand we are all talking about a 1080i50hz bluray after 50 posts then I dont know what to tell you.

I understood that from the first time it was mentioned. Or the possibility that is what the blu-ray is authored in. As the owner posted, that amazon post has several errors. Something you don't seem to acknowledge. So it may not be authored to those listed specs. Only the region code is causing the issue.

But unless someone else wants to buy it and see, we have to take his word on the video formatting of that disk. I simply offered info on a UK disc set i have. something you seem to ignore as well.
 

JSt0rm

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Im telling you the issue was the 25fps bluray not playing on his ps3. We went through this the entire thread and now you want to bring it back up? Why? You want to prove me wrong? Why? I think you are emotional.
 

BxgJ

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if you notice everyone else has basically conceded the issue so if you want to continue on your own then you are gonna be doing that alone.

No, everyone else didn't 'concede' the issue because not everyone made that assertion.
 

JSt0rm

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No, everyone else didn't 'concede' the issue because not everyone made that assertion.


interesting so you still think a 1080i50hz bluray will play on a ps3? I showed links that it wouldnt. Back it up if you think im wrong.
 

BxgJ

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interesting so you still think a 1080i50hz bluray will play on a ps3? I showed links that it wouldnt. Back it up if you think im wrong.

Sigh.... I just said 'not everyone made that assertion', meaning not everyone said that it would. That isn't what this thread was originally about.

edit -

Stop confusing your argument with a couple of guys with what most of us have been saying, which was much broader than that technical issue.
 

JSt0rm

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we talked about a bunch of stuff. however this part of the thread was about that. You guys thought i was wrong and wanted to beat me up on something because you dont like me because of my stance on the piracy issue. You wanted to use this issue of regions codes to show why you need this software until I pointed out that that bluray wouldnt play regardless of region codes. then a big argument witha bunch of people who knew just enough to think they re right when they arent. Again bring some sources if you think im wrong.
 
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