Goodbye SlySoft and AnyDVD

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Skeeedunt

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paid for itself with all those stolen films

Nah, people who pirate don't sink their time into this kind of effort, let alone pay $120 for software. They just get everything instantly with no DRM or hassle and don't have to worry about it.

Keep the hammer down MPAA you're doing a great job.
 
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alan1476

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Oh yeah of little faith, Slysoft is but a name. They knew the AACS-LA was coming, they knew it for years. You dont have to be a great businessman to have a PlanB when you know Plan A is going to crumble. :\ Just my opinion, like they used to say on that old TV show " I know nothing"
 

CZroe

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Oh yeah of little faith, Slysoft is but a name. They knew the AACS-LA was coming, they knew it for years. You dont have to be a great businessman to have a PlanB when you know Plan A is going to crumble. :\ Just my opinion, like they used to say on that old TV show " I know nothing"


That's why I pointed out that they were formerly ElbySoft. Whatever the return as, my lifetime license for their entire suite of products is not going to continue to be valid.
 

alan1476

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That's why I pointed out that they were formerly ElbySoft. Whatever the return as, my lifetime license for their entire suite of products is not going to continue to be valid.

And you know this for a fact? Did someone tell you this. I would like to see the quote. and they were never Elbysoft, Elaborate Bytes and Slysoft have a relationship yes. Since 2002. I am not saying that they are coming or your licence will be good, but I have faith in a company that fought for our right for so many years, If you lose your faith, you have lost everything.
 
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CZroe

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And you know this for a fact? Did someone tell you this. I would like to see the quote.


Looks like I posted it in another thread:

Dammit. SlySoft got shut down. Wonder what ElbySoft's next name will be. :hmm:

I'm simply making the same observation as you. I know my old license won't be valid for logical reasons: they would not be capable of claiming that they aren't associated if it were.
 

Ichinisan

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And you know this for a fact? Did someone tell you this. I would like to see the quote. and they were never Elbysoft, Elaborate Bytes and Slysoft have a relationship yes. Since 2002.

I'm pretty sure they can't pretend to be a different company if they honor another company's software licenses in the "new" company's products.
 

SKORPI0

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Hopefully their OPD (Online Protection Database) will still be accessible
or perhaps "uploaded" somewhere. And maybe opensource their program?
They need to put up base in China, where most of the remaining DVD/Blu-ray ripping companies are located.
 

CZroe

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And you know this for a fact? Did someone tell you this. I would like to see the quote. and they were never Elbysoft, Elaborate Bytes and Slysoft have a relationship yes. Since 2002.

I see that you've edited.

Anyway, "a relationship" is one way to put it. Changed their logo from a sheep to a fox and went on developing products with the "new" publisher based in Antigua or whatever is another.

I like SlySoft/Elaborate Bytes and was happy that they were able to go on in one form or another. It doesn't mean I'm not disappointed at the latest turn of events.

Last time they didn't just disappear like this though: they had a message saying that they could no longer offer their products due to recently changed laws in their country (IIRC, Germany?). They pointed people to a "new" publisher who was taking over their product offerings... with a website almost identical to their own but with a fox logo instead of a sheep (obvious relationship is obvious). It was a wink and a nudge.

ok, I don't know if they don't want me saying what they clearly wanted us to know. It sounds like you might know a bit more though. Are you telling us to take comfort/"have faith" because you know something you can't tell us? If so: Thanks, and please pass along our thanks.
 
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Ichinisan

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Hopefully their OPD (Online Protection Database) will still be accessible
or perhaps "uploaded" somewhere. And maybe opensource their program?
They need to put up base in China, where most of the remaining DVD/Blu-ray ripping companies are located.

What is contained in this "OPD?"
 

alan1476

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I see that you've edited.

Anyway, "a relationship" is one way to put it. Changed their logo from a sheep to a fox and went on developing products with the "new" publisher based in Antigua or whatever is another.

I like SlySoft/Elaborate Bytes and was happy that they were able to go on in one form or another. It doesn't mean I'm not disappointed at the latest turn of events.

Last time they didn't just disappear like this though: they had a message saying that they could no longer offer their products due to recently changed laws in their country (IIRC, Germany?). They pointed people to a "new" publisher who was taking over their product offerings... with a website almost identical to their own but with a fox logo instead of a sheep (obvious relationship is obvious). It was a wink and a nudge.

Look, I don't know if they don't want me saying what they clearly wanted us to know. It sounds like you might know a bit more though.
I ask you again, what makes you think if they are to come back in one form or another and I know nothing , if thats what they will do. That your licenses in their encrypted database would not be legitimate? It may not be, but I chose to see the glass half full.
 

Ichinisan

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I ask you again, what makes you think if they are to come back in one form or another and I know nothing , if thats what they will do. That your licenses in their encrypted database would not be legitimate? It may not be, but I chose to see the glass half full.

In that case, there would be no way to keep up the pretense that it's a different company.
 

alan1476

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In that case, there would be no way to keep up the pretense that it's a different company.
Companys change hands all the time, they change hands because the other company is worth something and they want to retain their customers.
 

CZroe

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I ask you again, what makes you think if they are to come back in one form or another and I know nothing , if thats what they will do. That your licenses in their encrypted database would not be legitimate? It may not be, but I chose to see the glass half full.
You asked. I answered:

I'm simply making the same observation as you. I know my old license won't be valid for logical reasons: they would not be capable of claiming that they aren't associated if it were.

I'm being optimistic too, but the optimism that they will be back is enough for me. I totally understand they they will likely not be able to pull the same trick as last time because obviously that didn't work forever. Hoping the old license works borders on wishful thinking. They could come back and end up consulting and researching for a competitors product and I would be just as happy.

Companys change hands all the time, they change hands because the other company is worth something and they want to retain their customers.

This wasn't just changing hands. The website was identical except for the name and logo (Cut, Paste, Replace All). The updates continued uninterrupted. The news was clearly written by the same person for years before and after. They literally didn't skip a beat. This time, going dark, they have skipped a beat.
 
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WT

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Yes actual keys to the candy store for each and every movie.

That's what worries me most now. How long until the Slysoft passkey servers go down and no movies, even older ones that we want to rip to HD, are able to be properly ID'ed and ripped ?

And if you think for one second that a 'shared' passkey database server not affiliated with Slysoft is a bit of a gamble and large target ... geeesh, be my guest !!
 

alan1476

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You asked and I answered.



I'm being optimistic too, but the optimism hat they will be back is enough for me.



This wasn't just changing hands. The website was identical. It was cut and paste. The updates continued uninterrupted. The news was clearly written by the same person for years before and after. They literally didn't skip a beat. This time, going dark, they have skipped a beat.
You are correct. They said and I repeat they said Slysoft is no more, laws in every country are different. Up until now they were were untouchable in Antigua. But the AACS has alot of money and they are relentless. Did you know what they do, is legal in Brazil. Do you think the Russians would just go along with what the USA and the greedy AACS-LA asks them to do? The USA is a great country but they do not rule the world. Again, I can only speculate on what I would do if I were in their shoes. I would have had a plan B, and we havent given them enough time to implement anything yet. Take some time. Lets see how it plays out , then we can come back and discuss this when more is known.
 

alan1476

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That's what worries me most now. How long until the Slysoft passkey servers go down and no movies, even older ones that we want to rip to HD, are able to be properly ID'ed and ripped ?

And if you think for one second that a 'shared' passkey database server not affiliated with Slysoft is a bit of a gamble and large target ... geeesh, be my guest !!
All I can say is " The closer you look, the less you see" A company without vision is a company that will go under as fast as they arrived. You read what is said, and I would admit Slysoftis gone, the Red Fox has eaten his last meal. Maybe a Squirrell will appear with even better programs.
 

CZroe

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You are correct. They said and I repeat they said Slysoft is no more, laws in every country are different. Up until now they were were untouchable in Antigua. But the AACS has alot of money and they are relentless. Did you know what they do, is legal in Brazil. Do you think the Russians would just go along with what the USA and the greedy AACS-LA asks them to do? The USA is a great country but they do not rule the world. Again, I can only speculate on what I would do if I were in their shoes. I would have had a plan B, and we havent given them enough time to implement anything yet. Take some time. Lets see how it plays out , then we can come back and discuss this when more is known.


Yes, let's do those things, but let's also take a healthy dose of realism with our predictions. There's also some past history that indicates that they will sometimes update a product in a way that allows them to charge a lifetime user again. The lifetime user still got what they paid for, so it isn't a criticism, but it does indicate that a new product with a new name and some new capabilities can get a new license. If "SlySoft is gone" then I am expecting them to be presented as new products.

Example: they finally had a reason to charge lifetime AnyDVD users again when they added HD-DVD and BD support. A "new" product from a different company is more than enough reason. It is entirely reasonable to assume that our old licenses will not be valid with any new product.
 
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CZroe

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All I can say is " The closer you look, the less you see" A company without vision is a company that will go under as fast as they arrived. You read what is said, and I would admit Slysoftis gone, the Red Fox has eaten his last meal. Maybe a Squirrell will appear with even better programs.


I'm excited! If they support SlySoft's lifetime license then it will just be icing on the cake!
 

alan1476

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Posted by CZroe
then I am expecting them to be presented as new products
I am just another " Joe" like you. I have no crystal ball. But now their developers do not have jobs , if what you say is true, its over and its not coming back in a way that would allow you to continue to use their software as you always have if you bought a lifetime licence. Wouldnt it be prudent if for nothing else than to make a name for yourself, to give the people that can prove they had a licence, a free licence to your software. This would give you a massive audience immediately. People would say, this must be Slysoft, even its its Dicks Decrypter" Maybe Ill buy a licence, new generation of decryptions are coming. And new generations of people are coming too. A smart man would make a smart decision, I mean what is a license to a software that is already written. Its nothing but a download , an e-mail and a key file. Not much to risk.
 

CZroe

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I am just another " Joe" like you. I have no crystal ball. But now their developers do not have jobs , if what you say is true, its over and its not coming back in a way that would allow you to continue to use their software as you always have if you bought a lifetime licence. Wouldnt it be prudent if for nothing else than to make a name for yourself, to give the people that can prove they had a licence, a free licence to your software. This would give you a massive audience immediately. People would say, this must be Slysoft, even its its Dicks Decrypter" Maybe Ill buy a licence, new generation of decryptions are coming. And new generations of people are coming too. A smart man would make a smart decision, I mean what is a license to a software that is already written. Its nothing but a download , an e-mail and a key file. Not much to risk.

I would happily turn a blind eye to it myself but it's probably hard to ignore for the authorities who notice that the license files were never publicly cracked (no keygens) and yet somehow someone else's product is able to validate existing licenses.

It's safest NOT to support existing licenses. I wouldn't complain because I think it's an acceptable reason to charge me again and they are the victims here anyway. They are fighting the good fight IMO and deserve a revenue stream.
 
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