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JSt0rm

Lifer
Sep 5, 2000
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I usually buy them from Amazon or Walmart. I guess I own about 100 Blu Rays (maybe less) and I don't know how many hundreds of regular DVDs.


Show us a screenshot of your bluray purchaase history on amazon with this thread as a tab.
 

Raduque

Lifer
Aug 22, 2004
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Thats not true. You own a digital copy on that service. Amazon isnt going anywhere. Apple isnt going anywhere.

The companies may not go anywhere, but their licenses certainly do. Why do you think so much content is removed from Netflix on a regular basis? Because they lose or decline to renew the licenses.

Do you really think if Amazon or Apple lose a license to a work they won't take it away? Hell, Amazon already does it with books.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
Sep 5, 2000
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The companies may not go anywhere, but their licenses certainly do. Why do you think so much content is removed from Netflix on a regular basis? Because they lose or decline to renew the licenses.

Do you really think if Amazon or Apple lose a license to a work they won't take it away? Hell, Amazon already does it with books.

The prime streaming service is completely different from the movie purchase and rental side. You own those that you purchase.
 

ControlD

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Apr 25, 2005
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you can limit it to your blurays. but you wont because they arent there.

#1 I'm not comfortable sharing my personal shopping history and #2 I would say 90% of my disk purchases at from the local Wal Marts. I can take a picture of my DVD racks at home if it makes you feel better, but since you have been so unfriendly I guess I just should stop giving a shit.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
Sep 5, 2000
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i dont give a fuck about your dvds. Blurays. You said blurays. This isnt about you. Its about all the people on this website with $3000 media servers and no money in media.
 

lxskllr

No Lifer
Nov 30, 2004
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i dont give a fuck about your dvds. Blurays. You said blurays. This isnt about you. Its about all the people on this website with $3000 media servers and no money in media.

So dvd racks can't hold blurays? Do they fly out on the floor or something? Enlighten me, cause I don't/won't own blurays.
 

ControlD

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Apr 25, 2005
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i dont give a fuck about your dvds. Blurays. You said blurays. This isnt about you. Its about all the people on this website with $3000 media servers and no money in media.

You realize a DVD rack can hold Blu Ray discs ... right?

Doesn't matter anyhow, it's a no win situation. I show you my Amazon history and there's say 15 Blu Rays. Then I have to show my wife's history because she bought a bunch of them. Maybe I can get some gift receipts for the discs I received as presents while we at it.

I get it. You don't believe me, that's fine. I can live with that.

If it makes you feel better my media server cost be somewhere right around $400.

Why don't you care about DVDs anyhow? I don't see any difference between the two. 90% of what I have ripped on my media server is from DVDs, not BR discs.
 
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poofyhairguy

Lifer
Nov 20, 2005
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You have no innate right to have a 1:1 copy of a bluray disk on your harddrive.

I know that very clearly. The DMCA has no exception for that sort of fair use. My point is that is BS, it goes against the fair use provisions set in the Sony Corp. of America v. Universal City Studios, Inc. Not that you seem to care.

And lot of people rip rentals dude.

Not to the point where it is a big priority for pirates or those who try to stop pirates. And I don't have to speculate on that, the Sony leak allowed everyone to see the playbook against piracy going forward:



You know what you are not seeing as a priority (low, medium, or high)? Ripping disks. The reason is because that is a small small percentage of piracy, and of that percentage a small small amount won't get move to other software for ripping disks.

You guys are gonna keep on stealing and nothing will stop you because you are ahead of the curve.

That isn't true, there is a lot that can slow down piracy. Stopping people from ripping disks isn't one of them.

Its pretty easy to buy movies on amazon and itunes. I do it all the time. $20 and you have a streaming movie forever. How is that not convenient?

Because that isn't as good of a product that the Blu Ray is. On either Amazon or iTunes the audio quality is worse, the picture quality is worse, and the selection compared to what has been put on physical disks isn't nearly as complete due to media deals. So you have to buy some in iTunes, some in Amazon, some in Vudu, just to be able to watch all the content you want to watch. And that isn't even considering the fact that thanks to DRM you need a "approved" device to play back that movie that you "bought."

A Blu Ray disk that I buy and that I rip I can then stream to ANY device in my house, ANY tv in my house, heck even any of my mobile devices when I am on the road. No service to date offers the level of convenience for purchased media. In comparison I can't stream any of "my" iTunes movies on my Android phone.

You might mock me for having expectations of better, but it can be done. As mentioned Steam did that to games, and now it is very convenient to play Steam games on almost any device or TV in your house. Eventually the media companies will get over themselves and stop demanding all kinds of crazy restrictions in their contracts with technology companies like Google and Apple, and at that point maybe we will have a service with the convenience of a roll-your-own setup.

Until then I will still attempt to rip my disks and consume them how I want to consume them.
 

ImpulsE69

Lifer
Jan 8, 2010
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To those who think this is a good thing....

Archaic practices go the way of the dinosaur. You want capitalism that lets you run over the consumer? It goes both ways. These companies have had plenty of warning and supposedly spend millions on market research. Let them fall by the hand that feeds them, or are you against capitalism?

It is sad to see that lawyers can be used to abuse law as much as they are by companies. I might have some sympathy if 90% of it wasn't muscle flexing BS that they have no real rights over. So these guys go away, someone else will just create something (probably better) for free.

Conform or be extinct.

P.S. Ultraviolet is a sad attempt at conforming, but at least it is an attempt.
 
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ControlD

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Here ... this is 19 movies. There are a couple more that wouldn't fit.

Like I said, the bulk of my movie purchases are done locally because we usually buy a movie the day we want to watch it. Still, that's 19 quick ones. I have more on our newer shared Amazon Prime account but I'm not posting that too.

 

StrangerGuy

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May 9, 2004
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To those who think this is a good thing....

Archaic practices go the way of the dinosaur. You want capitalism that lets you run over the consumer? It goes both ways. These companies have had plenty of warning and supposedly spend millions on market research. Let them fall by the hand that feeds them, or are you against capitalism?

It is sad to see that lawyers can be used to abuse law as much as they are by companies. I might have some sympathy if 90% of it wasn't muscle flexing BS that they have no real rights over. So these guys go away, someone else will just create something (probably better) for free.

Conform or be extinct.

P.S. Ultraviolet is a sad attempt at conforming, but at least it is an attempt.

Just like how Internet ad companies calling us entitled pricks for blocking ads while wasting our bandwidth, feeding us malware and intruding our privacy without permission in the name of capitalism.

"Internet we know won't exist without them" they say? I'll say bring it on, and while they are eating dirt they might as well take down all those associated worthless clickbait/news sites together, too.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
Sep 5, 2000
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Because that isn't as good of a product that the Blu Ray is. On either Amazon or iTunes the audio quality is worse, the picture quality is worse, and the selection compared to what has been put on physical disks isn't nearly as complete due to media deals. So you have to buy some in iTunes, some in Amazon, some in Vudu, just to be able to watch all the content you want to watch. And that isn't even considering the fact that thanks to DRM you need a "approved" device to play back that movie that you "bought."

A Blu Ray disk that I buy and that I rip I can then stream to ANY device in my house, ANY tv in my house, heck even any of my mobile devices when I am on the road. No service to date offers the level of convenience for purchased media. In comparison I can't stream any of "my" iTunes movies on my Android phone.

You might mock me for having expectations of better, but it can be done. As mentioned Steam did that to games, and now it is very convenient to play Steam games on almost any device or TV in your house. Eventually the media companies will get over themselves and stop demanding all kinds of crazy restrictions in their contracts with technology companies like Google and Apple, and at that point maybe we will have a service with the convenience of a roll-your-own setup.

Until then I will still attempt to rip my disks and consume them how I want to consume them.

How many steam games can you play on your android phone?

And Im sure you can stream your amazon content on your phone.

As for the quality issues. Everything is good on purchased content. Color depth and audio is all of good quality.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
Sep 5, 2000
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Cool. Thanks.


Here ... this is 19 movies. There are a couple more that wouldn't fit.

Like I said, the bulk of my movie purchases are done locally because we usually buy a movie the day we want to watch it. Still, that's 19 quick ones. I have more on our newer shared Amazon Prime account but I'm not posting that too.

 

ControlD

Diamond Member
Apr 25, 2005
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Cool. Thanks.

I guess I must just be old, but I actually prefer watching my movies on optical discs. I feel like they look the best that way and it is just really easy. I also like to have a physical copy of most of my media (except books). Hell, I still buy CDs all the time.

My wife and I are both runners and we live in a northern state. So in the winters a lot of time is spent on the treadmill. What I did was to rip our movie collection onto a cheap server and bought a Roku and a TV for the exercise room. It is really cool to be able to just pick a movie on Plex to watch while grinding the miles away. That is my main reason for wanting to be able to have a copy on a hard drive somewhere.

It's also nice to be able to watch Point Break on the couch via my iPad when the women here are watching Project Runway!
 

Anubis

No Lifer
Aug 31, 2001
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How many steam games can you play on your android phone?

And Im sure you can stream your amazon content on your phone.

As for the quality issues. Everything is good on purchased content. Color depth and audio is all of good quality.

streaming movie audio quality is what I would call "passable" it is by no means good

I just toss my name out there into the group that still buts Blu-Rays, shit I still buy music on CDs
ive never purchased a digital movie, and I rarely buy music digitally - only when I can get it as FLAC which is not often, I honestly think its like 3 album
 
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ImpulsE69

Lifer
Jan 8, 2010
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I guess I must just be old, but I actually prefer watching my movies on optical discs. I feel like they look the best that way and it is just really easy. I also like to have a physical copy of most of my media (except books). Hell, I still buy CDs all the time.

My wife and I are both runners and we live in a northern state. So in the winters a lot of time is spent on the treadmill. What I did was to rip our movie collection onto a cheap server and bought a Roku and a TV for the exercise room. It is really cool to be able to just pick a movie on Plex to watch while grinding the miles away. That is my main reason for wanting to be able to have a copy on a hard drive somewhere.

It's also nice to be able to watch Point Break on the couch via my iPad when the women here are watching Project Runway!

I used to be this way, but blu-ray was a HUGE step backwards in terms of functionality. I can't STAND them. I cannot deny the image quality, but that is about it. I'm so used to streaming now, I refuse to actually watch a blu-ray except in extremely rare cases.
 

ControlD

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Apr 25, 2005
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I haven't purchased any digital movie versions but we rent movies from Amazon all the time. I have purchased some TV shows digitally though. I'm lazy enough to have rented a movie I know I have on DVD but can't seem to find. It's almost too easy. I can't remember the last time I rented a physical disc. Has probably been at least five years.
 
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