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JSt0rm

Lifer
Sep 5, 2000
27,399
3,947
126
Here ok I'll prove it.

This software is shut the fuck down. You lose bitch.
 

ControlD

Diamond Member
Apr 25, 2005
5,440
44
91
I'm a "thief?"


Come on man, give it up.

Why else would you have paid a substantial sum of money (for software that you could have torrented for free) in order to make digital copies of moves you purchased (but could have torrented for free)? Thievery has to be the answer.

In some countries you could lose a limb or two over this kind of stuff.
 

Red Squirrel

No Lifer
May 24, 2003
68,334
12,562
126
www.anyf.ca
Theft is breaking into a store and stealing a CD. That CD is a physical item that costs money to make, and it can no longer be sold because it's not there anymore, not to mention the damage done to the building. Sadly the copyright companies have bought the government, and you are actually better off doing that than downloading because the penalties for downloading are worse. Pretty stupid world we live in. If there was some kind of tech that can copy and 3D print a fully functional car, and I go use it on someone's car, they still have their car in the end. Nobody lost anything. But if I break into said car and steal it, then they lost their car.

Also how is it any different to burn a copy for a friend, vs inviting that friend over to watch the same movie? It comes up to the same in the end. Well, I would not be surprised if there's some stupid law about that, perhaps it's actually illegal to have more than one person watch a movie if they don't own a personal copy. I'm sure that's what the copyright companies want. But that's besides the point, this software's original intention was not even piracy, it was so people can take movies they own and put them on their own media servers, and/or make backups of them. It's a tool. Tools can be used for good, but can also be used for bad. The tool maker should not be the one that gets punished.

I'm pretty sure jstorm must work for the RIAA or MPAA or something. I've never seen someone that defensive about the whole thing. Perhaps spend that amount of effort fighting things that matter, like the TPP. That will have much more serious damage on much more people due to all the job losses that will happen because of it.
 

Ichinisan

Lifer
Oct 9, 2002
28,298
1,235
136
Theft is breaking into a store and stealing a CD. That CD is a physical item that costs money to make, and it can no longer be sold because it's not there anymore, not to mention the damage done to the building. Sadly the copyright companies have bought the government, and you are actually better off doing that than downloading because the penalties for downloading are worse. Pretty stupid world we live in. If there was some kind of tech that can copy and 3D print a fully functional car, and I go use it on someone's car, they still have their car in the end. Nobody lost anything. But if I break into said car and steal it, then they lost their car.

Also how is it any different to burn a copy for a friend, vs inviting that friend over to watch the same movie? It comes up to the same in the end. Well, I would not be surprised if there's some stupid law about that, perhaps it's actually illegal to have more than one person watch a movie if they don't own a personal copy. I'm sure that's what the copyright companies want. But that's besides the point, this software's original intention was not even piracy, it was so people can take movies they own and put them on their own media servers, and/or make backups of them. It's a tool. Tools can be used for good, but can also be used for bad. The tool maker should not be the one that gets punished.

I'm pretty sure jstorm must work for the RIAA or MPAA or something. I've never seen someone that defensive about the whole thing. Perhaps spend that amount of effort fighting things that matter, like the TPP. That will have much more serious damage on much more people due to all the job losses that will happen because of it.

Your foolish ideas of how intellectual property should work would lead to having no quality entertainment products. There would be no financial incentive to produce it.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
Sep 5, 2000
27,399
3,947
126
Theft is breaking into a store and stealing a CD. That CD is a physical item that costs money to make, and it can no longer be sold because it's not there anymore, not to mention the damage done to the building. Sadly the copyright companies have bought the government, and you are actually better off doing that than downloading because the penalties for downloading are worse. Pretty stupid world we live in. If there was some kind of tech that can copy and 3D print a fully functional car, and I go use it on someone's car, they still have their car in the end. Nobody lost anything. But if I break into said car and steal it, then they lost their car.

Also how is it any different to burn a copy for a friend, vs inviting that friend over to watch the same movie? It comes up to the same in the end. Well, I would not be surprised if there's some stupid law about that, perhaps it's actually illegal to have more than one person watch a movie if they don't own a personal copy. I'm sure that's what the copyright companies want. But that's besides the point, this software's original intention was not even piracy, it was so people can take movies they own and put them on their own media servers, and/or make backups of them. It's a tool. Tools can be used for good, but can also be used for bad. The tool maker should not be the one that gets punished.

I'm pretty sure jstorm must work for the RIAA or MPAA or something. I've never seen someone that defensive about the whole thing. Perhaps spend that amount of effort fighting things that matter, like the TPP. That will have much more serious damage on much more people due to all the job losses that will happen because of it.

Your argument is tired and old.
 

Red Squirrel

No Lifer
May 24, 2003
68,334
12,562
126
www.anyf.ca
The current method of delivery is outdated. If they keep up with the times they can still make money. Heck even with this outdated system where most people pirate, they still rack in billions. So no, piracy is not actually hurting them. But personally a lot of the stuff I pirate I could technically watch legally on TV anyway, whether I PVR it, or download it, it more or less comes up to the same thing. Nobody is losing money. I just like having it as a file that is on my local server that I can watch any time, or bring with me somewhere or what not. I would probably pay for a service that offered that. You'd be paying knowing you are getting it from a reliable safe source and that it's the highest quality.

My big beef with the piracy is not that it should be legal, but that it should not be treated like terrorism and the "enablers" should not be guilty just because they wrote a piece of software that can be used to pirate. The penalties are WAY too ridiculous. People who pirate should have to pay a fine, something like 2x the cost of what they pirated. It should be like a parking ticket. Yeah parking in a place that says no parking is wrong, but it does not kill anybody, either. Of course you will get a bigger fine if you park in a place that can harm someone, like blocking an ambulance. But even those tickets will be reasonable and fit the crime. Not millions of dollars and/or jail time. That guy from Reddit (can't recall his first name, last name was Swartz) who copied a bounch of PDFs was about to face 25 years. Completely ridiculous. Child molesters don't even get that much time.

But that's veering a bit off topic, this software was not even to pirate. People who would use this software would probably have physical copies of the content already, so they paid for it, they just want it as a file.... which brings me to my argument that these companies need to just keep with the times and perhaps offer their content that way.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
Sep 5, 2000
27,399
3,947
126
The current method of delivery is outdated. If they keep up with the times they can still make money. Heck even with this outdated system where most people pirate, they still rack in billions. So no, piracy is not actually hurting them. But personally a lot of the stuff I pirate I could technically watch legally on TV anyway, whether I PVR it, or download it, it more or less comes up to the same thing. Nobody is losing money. I just like having it as a file that is on my local server that I can watch any time, or bring with me somewhere or what not. I would probably pay for a service that offered that. You'd be paying knowing you are getting it from a reliable safe source and that it's the highest quality.

My big beef with the piracy is not that it should be legal, but that it should not be treated like terrorism and the "enablers" should not be guilty just because they wrote a piece of software that can be used to pirate. The penalties are WAY too ridiculous. People who pirate should have to pay a fine, something like 2x the cost of what they pirated. It should be like a parking ticket. Yeah parking in a place that says no parking is wrong, but it does not kill anybody, either. Of course you will get a bigger fine if you park in a place that can harm someone, like blocking an ambulance. But even those tickets will be reasonable and fit the crime. Not millions of dollars and/or jail time. That guy from Reddit (can't recall his first name, last name was Swartz) who copied a bounch of PDFs was about to face 25 years. Completely ridiculous. Child molesters don't even get that much time.

But that's veering a bit off topic, this software was not even to pirate. People who would use this software would probably have physical copies of the content already, so they paid for it, they just want it as a file.... which brings me to my argument that these companies need to just keep with the times and perhaps offer their content that way.

You steal from people who work hard and risk capital.
 

motsm

Golden Member
Jan 20, 2010
1,822
2
76
So tell me what difference does it make if I watch something on live TV (not pay per view but part of my regular cable selection) or download it? Nobody is making or losing money either way.
Ratings dictate ad revenue.
 

CZroe

Lifer
Jun 24, 2001
24,195
857
126
It's the man who bought a bluray. And then wanted something else entirely.

This is getting tired/old.

I don't see you criticizing people who buys CDs when they want the music on their iPod or phone.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
Sep 5, 2000
27,399
3,947
126
You didn't? We're we friends in 2001 or something?

The music industry is dead.

They make music for low income people and girls aged 9-14 and that's it. Lol. Congrats. When all your rock stars are dead and you can't find any new music you only have yourself to blame.

Do u think the video side, after witnessing the total destruction of the music industry, is going to roll over?

Hell no. Streaming content puts a lot of power in the hands of the creators and its super convenient for you zeros. Win/win. Unless u don't want to pay for the products you consume. Then u are an asshole.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
Sep 5, 2000
27,399
3,947
126
Do u even wonder why superman is flying thru a house of fucking pancakes in a fucking 150 million dollar movie and John waters and David lynch haven't made a film in over a decade?

Mid budget studio films are dead. Enjoy your endless regurgitated people in tights saving the fucking planet while surrounded by corporate adverts selling you some shitty thing.
 
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CZroe

Lifer
Jun 24, 2001
24,195
857
126
You didn't? We're we friends in 2001 or something?



The music industry is dead.



They make music for low income people and girls aged 9-14 and that's it. Lol. Congrats. When all your rock stars are dead and you can't find any new music you only have yourself to blame.



Do u think the video side, after witnessing the total destruction of the music industry, is going to roll over?



Hell no. Streaming content puts a lot of power in the hands of the creators and its super convenient for you zeros. Win/win. Unless u don't want to pay for the products you consume. Then u are an asshole.

Is someone forcing you to buy new music and refusing to publish old music?

I buy plenty of music but I've only ever bought two CDs at launch: Return of Saturn and Random Access Memories. I would also have bought the most recent Chemical Brothers at launch but it snuck up on me. I know Ichinisan has preordered something on iTunes but we pay for iTunes Match and mostly add old stuff. I've spent hundreds of dollars on eBay's various 1cent CD sellers and hundreds more at thrift stores. I see Kanye West causing Turbo Grafx games to jump in price just by mentioning the name of his next album and then I hear about a plain white T-Shirt he "designed" going for $120 dollars and you think THEIR industry is dead?!

The music industry is thriving. Don't be fooled by CD sales.

PS: I haven't watched any Superman movies since the insufferable Christopher Reeves ones. The modern ones are probably terrible too, but they can't be THAT much worse.
 
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