Google Acquires Motorola Mobility

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Pliablemoose

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That's where the deal gets confusing...

Google has become one of the complete vendors with this move, along with Apple, RIM, & HP, and Google wants to become Microsoft and Apple, by supplying the OS and being a manufacturer. No one has pulled it off yet.

The only specifics of the deal are that Google will pay Moto 2+ billion if the deal isn't approved or if Google changes it's mind, and Moto will pay 300 million or so if they back out. No one knows the other specifics of the deal. The only other thing I've heard is that Sanjay has a 65 million dollar golden parachute if he leaves Moto, and that's his old deal with Moto when he came on board.
 

alent1234

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the $12.5 billion is the max value. the deal is probably hundreds of pages long with all kinds of performance conditions that have to be met for the max payout to be made
 

BenSkywalker

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No one has pulled it off yet.

That's right, never, ever has it been pulled off. If Google can do something like this, maybe they should get, say, a Symbian award? Just this random name I thought up indicating someone with a massive market lead that produces their own phones while still selling an OS to many of its competitors. Symbian award sound good? Or does that word sound too contrived?
 

WelshBloke

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I'm not seeing the conflict between Google and the other manufacturers even if they do release their own hardware. They don't charge for the OS anyway so it's not like they can give themselves a better deal.
 

Deeko

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I'm not seeing the conflict between Google and the other manufacturers even if they do release their own hardware. They don't charge for the OS anyway so it's not like they can give themselves a better deal.

They can still give Motorola preferential treatment by giving them earlier access to new builds.
 

Pliablemoose

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That's right, never, ever has it been pulled off. If Google can do something like this, maybe they should get, say, a Symbian award? Just this random name I thought up indicating someone with a massive market lead that produces their own phones while still selling an OS to many of its competitors. Symbian award sound good? Or does that word sound too contrived?

Sigh...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbian

April 5, 2011, Nokia ceased to open source any portion of the Symbian software

Yeah, let's call it the Symbian Award

And that's exactly what Google will do if Android survives as an OS.
 
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silverpig

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They can still give Motorola preferential treatment by giving them earlier access to new builds.

And that would hurt them.

Google doesn't care about making money off of phones. They don't care about making money off of android. They don't even care about making money off of apps.

Google makes money off of search/ads.

The more devices they have out there using android, the better. They want to keep samsung and htc happy to push up the installed base of android.
 

Deeko

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Its all down to the carriers how soon we (end users) get updates anyway.

Lets say there's a three month delay between when Samsung provides an update to AT&T, and AT&T gets it to users. If there were an additional six months before Samsung got the update to begin with...well, now you're adding six more months to the total timeline before the user gets the update, regardless of the carrier delay. It would also mean that Motorola devices could launch with newer versions of the software as well.

Again - before people start explaining Google's business model to me some more - I'm not saying this will happen. I'm saying it could and this is why the other manufacturers have a reason to be wary of the deal.
 

Pliablemoose

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After more than a little reading, etc, I think what we're doing is actually pretty funny.

The deal came about in 5 weeks, as one blogger put it yesterday, that's not enough time to even put together meetings, much less send the teams to do due diligence etc...

I think this was a reactionary, hasty move on Google's part, and that they don't have a clear plan on what the hell they're going to do with MMI.

STB's-jesus, they're currently a nightmare, they suck energy like we live in the 50's, they're slow and miserable. Google TV is a dammed abortion in progress. It'll take years to integrate the two.

Moto-losing money, poor management, 19,000 employees added to Google's payroll (and a reported corporate culture that is a poor fit for Google).

Handsets-You have me there, aside from MotoBlur, I think Moto handsets are pretty good

Tablets-Moto is really screwed up here, poor sales, poor support, 6 months later and the promised LTE upgrades still missing in action?

Android-don't get me started, there's no way in hell Google won't try to morph into Apple + Ads. They (Google) now (will) have 30% of Android handset sales. The other manufacturers will NEVER trust Google, nor should they. This isn't happy unicorn land, this is business, Apple makes money hand over fist with it's devices, giving away Android is just silly if they own a handset manufacturer, they need to close off Android and build their own handsets and tablets. They can provide a much better user experience if they do so.
 
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senseamp

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After more than a little reading, etc, I think what we're doing is actually pretty funny.

The deal came about in 5 weeks, as one blogger put it yesterday, that's not enough time to even put together meetings, much less send the teams to do due diligence etc...

I think this was a reactionary, hasty move on Google's part, and that they don't have a clear plan on what the hell they're going to do with MMI.

STB's-jesus, they're currently a nightmare, they suck energy like we live in the 50's, they're slow and miserable. Google TV is a dammed abortion in progress. It'll take years to integrate the two.

Moto-losing money, poor management, 19,000 employees added to Google's payroll (and a reported corporate culture that is a poor fit for Google).

Handsets-You have me there, aside from MotoBlur, I think Moto handsets are pretty good

Tablets-Moto is really screwed up here, poor sales, poor support, 6 months later and the promised LTE upgrades still missing in action?

Android-don't get me started, there's no way in hell Google won't try to morph into Apple + Ads. They (Google) now (will) have 30% of Android handset sales. The other manufacturers will NEVER trust Google, nor should they. This isn't happy unicorn land, this is business, Apple makes money hand over fist with it's devices, giving away Android is just silly if they own a handset manufacturer, they need to close off Android and build their own handsets and tablets. They can provide a much better user experience if they do so.

Google business model is different from Apple. They want everyone using their cloud, with the client devices being a commodity.
 

sciwizam

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Android-don't get me started, there's no way in hell Google won't try to morph into Apple + Ads. They (Google) now (will) have 30% of Android handset sales. The other manufacturers will NEVER trust Google, nor should they. This isn't happy unicorn land, this is business, Apple makes money hand over fist with it's devices, giving away Android is just silly if they own a handset manufacturer, they need to close off Android and build their own handsets and tablets. They can provide a much better user experience if they do so.

That's US share, Moto's global reach is nowhere near that. HTC and Samsung dominate in Europe and Asia (and US as well).
 

senseamp

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Apple makes more money, why would Google pass that opportunity up?

Because it's not their business model. Focus is more important than chasing short term profits. Google's goal is to commoditize the hardware. They like that you can get an Android phone for $100 on a prepaid plan. In the long run, it's not the boutique OS on premium hardware that makes the most money, it's the company making ubiquitous software that runs on commodity hardware made by others. It's not in Google's interest that Android hardware is very profitable, it's in Google's interest that it's cheap.
 
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