Google continuing to screw youtube

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Pulsar

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Good to see others share my frustration.

I figured there had to be extensions for chrome for everything under the sun - and there's one for youtube! It's called Smartvideo. I started using it this morning and I love it. It forces the video to continue buffering till it's done. I can watch youtube videos again! *golf clap*

I'm normally not a youtube video watcher, but there are videos (mostly robotics related) that I need to watch fairly frequently.
 

olds

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Good to see others share my frustration.

I figured there had to be extensions for chrome for everything under the sun - and there's one for youtube! It's called Smartvideo. I started using it this morning and I love it. It forces the video to continue buffering till it's done. I can watch youtube videos again! *golf clap*

I'm normally not a youtube video watcher, but there are videos (mostly robotics related) that I need to watch fairly frequently.
:thumbsup::thumbsup: Way up!
 

quakeworld

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I laughed when I saw the 140p resolution under settings. That's sub VHS quality right there. Heck, even the original Gameboy had a higher resolution.

YouTube is better when you bypass the browser player. It sucks. Always has, always will. It's best going in there with an app that has direct access to the streams. XBMC on PC. Most mobile apps have direct stream access as well. I know on iOS, it will allow you to fully buffer the video.

Can you give more info on XBMC for the PC? i went here http://xbmc.org/about/ and didn't find anything about streaming youtube videos (i didn't browse the whole site though). thanks.
 

Ichinisan

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So, all us 'slow' internet users are already f'ked on youtube. Since they won't allow us to buffer more than 10-15 seconds, it's nearly impossible to watch a video that you can't stream real-time.

But hey, they're here to help! Now they've added an addition incredible resolution of.... 140! That's right. Now, not only can't you let a video load, you get to have it auto-adjusted down to an obscenely bad resolution.

Congrats google. That was a fantastic fix to your screwing over the buffering system.

It's not even a "fix." 140p still hangs half the time I try to watch something.

Google clearly isn't aware of how severely some ISPs are affected by this. There's no other way to explain why it has been happening for so long.
 

Triumph

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Google is so incredibly clueless when it comes to YouTube and pretty much everything else. They could be leading the way in supporting vertical videos, allowing the player to change shape to fit the video content, but NOOO, they have to go with enormous pillarboxes instead. Because everyone LOVES those.

Hell, Facebook does vertical videos correctly. When I upload videos from now on, they're going on Facebook. I like my freedom to take videos vertically if I so choose.

Why are you so ardent about displaying your vertical videos when nobody in the world wants to watch a video recorded that way?
 

TheKub

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It may be worth trying out a YouTube proxy. We have 35/35 Fios at the house and at prime time most videos would out right hang a few seconds in (despite the 2 min pre-roll ad running flawlessly) spamming refresh or closing reopening browsing session could occasionally allow it to stream normally. I figured this must have been some kind of throttling as any other download/video I watch downloaded at normal speeds without issue.

The I tried a proxy (proxfree). The same video that would hang 10 seconds into 480p ran flawlessly at 1080p every time.
 

Imp

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I'm more annoyed that they make you redownload the entire video even if you rewatch something a dozen times without ever leaving the page -- if the progress bar is accurate. I remember that the progress bar used to stay filled if you replayed.

Effing bandwidth cap...
 

lxskllr

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I'm more annoyed that they make you redownload the entire video even if you rewatch something a dozen times without ever leaving the page -- if the progress bar is accurate. I remember that the progress bar used to stay filled if you replayed.

Effing bandwidth cap...

It definitely redownloads it. I watch it on my net meters. Retarded... You'd think they'd try to save the bandwidth.
 

AnonymouseUser

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On the software side, Peerblock might work. It's usually used for p2p but it does have lists for advertisements and spammers. It's worth a try.
http://www.peerblock.com/

Yes, it does look like that will work, but only on one PC at a time, which is an improvement over one browser at a time to be sure. However, blocking at the router level blocks ads for all connected devices; Windows, Mac, and *nix PCs, tablets, laptops, and smartphones. It also doesn't need to be re-installed every time you re-install your OS.

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who?

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It redownloads because they don't want you having a copy of their copyrighted content on your device.
 
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Good to see others share my frustration.

I figured there had to be extensions for chrome for everything under the sun - and there's one for youtube! It's called Smartvideo. I started using it this morning and I love it. It forces the video to continue buffering till it's done. I can watch youtube videos again! *golf clap*

I'm normally not a youtube video watcher, but there are videos (mostly robotics related) that I need to watch fairly frequently.

Does it actually force it? For me Youtube buffers but still somehow the video shits the bed and will like hang up and stop even though its supposedly buffered well past where it does that. Most videos won't buffer all the way for me either.
 

Newbian

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So, all us 'slow' internet users are already f'ked on youtube. Since they won't allow us to buffer more than 10-15 seconds, it's nearly impossible to watch a video that you can't stream real-time.

I just use add-on's that will force the video to buffer in the cases where they stop.

I get those about 1/3 of the time or so and just use it then to force the video to buffer while I check another website for a bit.
 

Pulsar

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Does it actually force it? For me Youtube buffers but still somehow the video shits the bed and will like hang up and stop even though its supposedly buffered well past where it does that. Most videos won't buffer all the way for me either.

I'm going to have to play with it more when I get home. It seemed to work well on a half dozen videos I watched, but it may just have been my home interet connect actually giving me the .5 Mb I pay for (which is rare).
 

Newbian

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Does it actually force it? For me Youtube buffers but still somehow the video shits the bed and will like hang up and stop even though its supposedly buffered well past where it does that. Most videos won't buffer all the way for me either.

I have used this for firefox for awhile and it works most of the time compared to how youtube stopped buffering for some of the videos so it's always worth a try not to mention it's worth it alone to turn off annotations and use large video player automatically.
 

olds

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Does it actually force it? For me Youtube buffers but still somehow the video shits the bed and will like hang up and stop even though its supposedly buffered well past where it does that. Most videos won't buffer all the way for me either.
I only tried it with one 8 minute video after installing the extension but it buffered the entire video. (Started video, hit pause, entire video buffered)
 

Imp

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Feb 8, 2000
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It redownloads because they don't want you having a copy of their copyrighted content on your device.

But they can delete it after I leave the page or do whatever they used to do.

If I really wanted to keep a copy, Mr. Google (search) already gives me a bunch of free options to do it. All it ends up doing is waste my and their bandwidth and processing power.
 

Slew Foot

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I find that popular videos seem to load fine but when my kid wants to watch something like fire trucks driving around, it tends to stutter a bit
 

Bateluer

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Hell, Facebook does vertical videos correctly. When I upload videos from now on, they're going on Facebook. I like my freedom to take videos vertically if I so choose.

So long as you're comfortable with Facebook owning your videos indefinitely, I suppose. :/ Not really a good compromise. And thats the first time I've heard of someone actually wanting to use vertical videos, intentionally. Usually when someone does that, you laugh at them for not holding their phone properly.
 
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FelixDeCat

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"I didn't even expect him to come up here, thinking it was that sweet. Thinking it's that candy land like that,"

 

Codewiz

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If you use google chrome you can add the extension youtube options. It fixes most of these complaints.
 
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