Got data for that? What I am looking at (FROM THE ADA) indicates that dentists are as likely to be female as male.
http://www.ada.org/en/publications/...n-dentistry-see-progress-continued-challenges
Males in dentistry become the dentists.
In 1978, 15.9 percent of first-year dental students were women, according to the ADA Health Policy Institute, unpublished 2014 findings from the Survey of Dental Practice.
In 2014, it was 47.7 percent. Just a decade before Dr. Seldin graduated, only 1.1 percent of dental students were female in 1968.
Got data for that? What I am looking at (FROM THE ADA) indicates that dentists are as likely to be female as male.
http://www.ada.org/en/publications/...n-dentistry-see-progress-continued-challenges
Got data for that? What I am looking at (FROM THE ADA) indicates that dentists are as likely to be female as male.
http://www.ada.org/en/publications/...n-dentistry-see-progress-continued-challenges
Ignoring the drama of this guy, it is a pretty interesting subject. I'd be interested to see if as more time passes there is a larger shift of woman into STEM or it remains static. Women are represented fairly well in certain STEM fields, but in many they are not. Some data that would be interesting is what are things looking like today at universities. If enrollment in programs that support a career in some of these fields where woman represent a very small minority is seeing an increased female presence, or if there are no signs of any sort of shift happening. This is one of those things that goes on my list of things I wish I wouldn't be dead for and have to miss finding out how it turns out in the end.
His posting was meant for people like you to read and look at yourself critically.The facts here are that he posted his manifesto about women being unsuited for tech and whatnot on some little internal forum, and it figures that sort of thing got widely distributed. In any other company it's point and laugh time, but as mitigating factor google has more a culture of critical internal discussion.
Predictably the "blacks r dumb cus science" crowd are up in arms over this, and it's at least safe to say these aren't the sorts those with a good reputation want fighting their battles.
His posting was meant for people like you to read and look at yourself critically.
A liberal cannot, per definition be an authoritarian
People claim to be Christian and yet raise weapons and scorn against others. WWJD?
People also claim to be Liberal and instead practice very conservative leaning tribal rituals against "others".
Let's not get hung up on definitions of labels when the context is clearer as the sum of all parts.
People claim to be Christian and yet raise weapons and scorn against others. WWJD?
People also claim to be Liberal and instead practice very conservative leaning tribal rituals against "others".
Let's not get hung up on definitions of labels when the context is clearer as the sum of all parts.
Easy to see why degenerates equate acting degenerate to being black/female.
To be an authoritarian liberal would be like being an atheist theist.
The core, the very first idea, the entire concept that makes the idea be is individual rights and authoritarianism is the subversion of those.
Easy to see Agent trash posting yet again.
Most of the public does not use the old / classical definition. These days, especially the right, labels the entirety of the Left (Democrat voters) as Liberal, regardless of how Authoritarian they are. I had long identified as Libertarian but no one would have called me Liberal prior to changing my economic stance.
Do you know why the number changed so drastically (in both England and the US)?
Because of the exact same thing Google is doing right now.
That is one profession. Next up, the board members, CEO's, all the highest paying jobs.
98.5% men.
Regarding the takers at the very top, you know of my opinion of that group of people. I expound on it incessantly, its right in my handle.
Regarding STEM professions which require interface with patients, I believe the future will be completely dominated by women (dentists and doctors). I prefer women in these professions because they exude empathy for me rather than fake it like the men do. If you have visited a female doctor or dentist, you will notice the difference and you will like it.
Do I think software engineering could some day be filled with women? I have no idea. I am not entirely clear on why there aren't more women in it already. I can't think of any profession other than perhaps genetic research that could be half as interesting.
I have a son and a daughter and both have NO interest in STEM. I haven't tried to push any particular thing on them but I do push them to develop an interest in SOMETHING. For my son that has turned out to be pot and video games. For my daughter that has turned out to be reading, philosophy and boys. Objectively I believe both my kids are destined for a lower socio-economic rung than myself. Slightly above average intelligence combined with zero ambition is simply a recipe for poverty and unhappiness.
I would never say women are dum. The most inspiring manager I ever worked for was a woman. Her gender is irrelevant to that statement.Cus women r dum, amirite.
For someone who, apparently, has a PhD, it didn't seem exactly academically rigorous or science-based either - above all it didn't seem to me that any of his 'references' supported his claim that these alleged differences were partly 'biological'.
Interesting example. There is gender disparity in the field of nursing, yet you don't hear many calls to diversify nursing due to the inadequate representation of males.
I don't disagree, but diversity must also include room at the table for those who may be skeptical or critical of when the implementation of diversity becomes nothing more than a check the box censoring form of exclusionary group think. The Google employee relied too heavily on gender stereotypes in his arguments, but the core of his criticism was directed at the means rather than the ends, and I find the response more offensive than the perceived injustice of his expressing an opinion.
Easy to see Agent trash posting yet again.
Indeed, half the threads are ruined because of that fucker.
The ignore function would work better if all conversations with that twat were removed completely. Also, threads would stay on topic and people would be more calm.
I would never say women are dum. The most inspiring manager I ever worked for was a woman. Her gender is irrelevant to that statement.
You on the other hand...
I do admire your Lean batch and queue buckshatting of flaccid intellectualism in this thread.
Yep. It's not conducted in the style of honest inquiry, it's a lot like The Bell Curve in that it brings up figures, mentions one explanation and doesn't even admit the possibility that his explanation isn't involved. Does he even mention the possibility that women have a greater aptitude for software engineering and that the bias he acknowledges but doesn't really incorporate into his mental model might simply be greater than that difference in aptitude? Does he entertain the possibility that what he considers to be female-oriented changes to the workflow might actually work better than what currently exists? He doesn't try to address why there's such a huge disparity in female participation in software between different regions because frankly, he hasn't even looked. He's decided that what he's seen is the natural order of things.
He's trying to make a blanket proclamation where the grounds for it doesn't exist. He might be on firmer ground if he were more willing to entertain alternate hypotheses, but it's terribly done and worse, incorporates prejudice into the assumptions, which means that people interacting with him cannot be sure that he's evaluating others fairly as individuals.
Umm, you don't hang out with the right people if you don't hear calls to destigmatize being a male nurse and to get more nurses whoever they are.
He's directly expressing that he can't be trusted to evaluate his co-workers fairly, and worse, has gone on the record as having preconceived notions about them and their suitability for work.
Let me put it to you really bluntly. A workplace where you're expected to be continually defending yourself both as an individual and as a member of a group against ideas that you might not even get voiced but still have real ramifications on your life and career is exhausting.
If bias isn't unacceptable in a company, it becomes toxic for the victims of that bias. That requires that prejudiced views and those who express them be handled in a way that isn't tacit approval or you end up wondering why you're not getting talent like the places that create a welcoming environment are.
I think starbuck knows what discrimination is given how reliably he endeavors to defend it or at least turn a blind eye.
I think he's blinded himself to what it means to be on the receiving end because he can't have his defense of it and his self-image at the same time any other way.
How often does it come up to people who turn a blind eye, are obviously unsympathetic audiences for anyone in their life who might want to confide, and who don't actively seek out challenging media and discussion? I'd say that a lot of the world is built around accommodating people's fragility by letting them not really confront what it means to the recipient and the effects that go with certain behaviors and views.
I would never say women are dum. The most inspiring manager I ever worked for was a woman. Her gender is irrelevant to that statement.
You on the other hand...
I do admire your Lean batch and queue buckshatting of flaccid intellectualism in this thread.
agent00fucktard strikes yet again.
How this mongrel of a troll is not banned I do not know, he ruins almost every thread with ongoing discussions with no substance what so ever and never ever lets anything go even after being shown to be wrong.
He is quite frankly the example that some people are exactly like the fascist alt-right while not belonging to that group. He'd vote for Stalin over Sanders or Lenin over both, his idea is as extreme as the trumpistas but he will never realize that through hatred he has become exactly what he despises.
Got data for that? What I am looking at (FROM THE ADA) indicates that dentists are as likely to be female as male.
http://www.ada.org/en/publications/...n-dentistry-see-progress-continued-challenges