Google I/O 2012: Jelly Bean is here..Jelly Bean is here!

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Lifer
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What would motivate you to store a 4-8gb high quality HD movie on a 7" tablet anyway ??
That's just it. I don't want to store it on a 7" tablet. I want to store it on SD media.

A 700mb HD movie looks more than fine on a 7" screen.
Yes it would, but I think it's a major waste of time to encode the same movies multiple times for different form factors.

Encode once, play many. That was true in the days of music ripping and encoding, and in 2012 it's becoming true for video as well.

A 7" tablet is great as a traveling gadget.
Indeed.

No, what he was asking is storing the media files on his laptop or phone (which has tons of storage space) and streaming from the laptop/phone to the tablet while on a plane, without internet connection.

In this case the laptop/phone is the server, and the tablet is the client, and they're connected in some kind of a personal local network.
That doesn't make a lot of sense. In that context I'd just take my 11" laptop and be done with it, even if I don't need to do productivity work on the machine. What's the point of taking both an 11" laptop and a 7" tablet just to watch movies on the 7" tablet?
 

zerocool84

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As someone who has criticized Android severely for lag and an unpolished UI, ICS got my hopes up, and JB really sealed the deal.

I recognize that we finally reached parity in a lot of fields against iOS, but at this point its just bells and whistles like magazine subscriptions. The OS if it is as described by Google, is pretty damn well made now especially with 60fps smoothness. Everyone who used to say omg if you use a dual core its smooth. Then they moved the benchmark to a quad core. Well clearly Project Butter can make things smoother still.

JB is an upgrade to Gingerbread right? So I'm hoping a lot of things can be ported over ASAP. I'm on a SGS2, so I have my hopes set low because this device gets fucked over for a lot of things. Here's to hoping the next Nexus phone is awesome.

They said Jellybean is going to the Nexus S as well but I wonder if that old phone can even handle 60fps. Engadget reported that it will run 60fps on sufficiently fast hardware and the Nexus S is old but it still does have a decent GPU and the low rez should help with that I assume.
 

kaerflog

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I really want to see Project Butter in action.
Pretty soon we will see a Nexus 7 preview.
I want to see the buttery smooth UI in action.
 
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no, JB is an upgrade to ICS. 4.1.

from 4.0 onwards, the tablet and phone codebase is one and the same. 2.3/gingerbread was the last phone only version.
sorry i meant ICS... My point was that its a small revision kinda like how GB was an upgrade to Froyo and Froyo to Eclair, meaning porting over CyanogenMod shouldn't be the most difficult thing.

ICS had so many changes that CM9 development has been far behind the previous CM developments. So hopefully CM10 gets ported over sooner. I wouldn't want to wait til 2013 to be using CM10, and by then I'd probably jump on a new phone.
 

cronos

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That doesn't make a lot of sense. In that context I'd just take my 11" laptop and be done with it, even if I don't need to do productivity work on the machine. What's the point of taking both an 11" laptop and a 7" tablet just to watch movies on the 7" tablet?

I agree. I was just trying to clarify what I thought he was asking

Maybe it will make a little sense if no laptop is involved and it's just streaming from phone (presumably with microSD slot and therefore huge storage space) to tablet for media consumption.

I don't think this kind of solution exists though.
 

abaez

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Oh then we should see a ROM pretty soon if it's an OTA update. Someone will inevitably pull the OTA file.
 

gsaldivar

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Wow... 7 Google app updates today in the Play Store! Now this is what I like to see!
 

zerocool84

Lifer
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It really seems that Goolge is addressing a lot of concerns the opposing side had just like Apple addressed many concerns their opposing side had. It's really great that we have Apple vs Google pushing each other to make their products that much better.
 

MrX8503

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Finally they're addressing lag with Project Butter. This was the main issue I had with Android.
 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
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It really seems that Goolge is addressing a lot of concerns the opposing side had just like Apple addressed many concerns their opposing side had. It's really great that we have Apple vs Google pushing each other to make their products that much better.

+1

If google can fix the lag/ui issue then that's a big + in my book.
 

vshah

Lifer
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offline maps is live in the gmaps update. the tile size isn't unlimited, but you can easily do an entire city
 

s44

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The Q has a built-in amp. So I guess it's for people with HDTV but no proper home theater?
 

AstroManLuca

Lifer
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offline maps is live in the gmaps update. the tile size isn't unlimited, but you can easily do an entire city

I just wish you could cache an unlimited number of tiles. The limit of 6 lets me cache my home city but nothing else.
 

poofyhairguy

Lifer
Nov 20, 2005
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What would motivate you to store a 4-8gb high quality HD movie on a 7" tablet anyway ??

A few reasons:

1. You don't have to re-encode your files. Sure it wastes space when a smaller file can do, but if the tablet can play the large files I can just go home and quickly throw a few movies on. I don't have to think about what I want to watch tomorrow yesterday and Handbrake them overnight. And 700mb is too small, for 720p I don't want a file smaller than 3 gigs.

2. You hook the tablet up via HDMI to a hotel TV or at a friends house and enjoy the files in full quality while on vacation.

3. If you have it on a SD card, you can use it on many devices (aka play the same file on a 7 inch tablet as your big tablet that CAN display the full resolution).
 

Bateluer

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Jun 23, 2001
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Wow... 7 Google app updates today in the Play Store! Now this is what I like to see!

And you can update them all from the web Play Store now. And uninstall updates. All remotely.

Thats a damn nice feature, and further widens the gap between the Play Store's versatility and the Apple store.
 
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