Google Launches Public DNS to Speed Up Web.

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FelixDeCat

Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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I just tried this and I cant believe how blazing fast my internet connection speed is now! Thanks Google!
 

Kalmah

Diamond Member
Oct 2, 2003
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I just gave it a shot. It is faster than opendns for me. I am concerned about what google intends to do with this though.
 

Jeff7

Lifer
Jan 4, 2001
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Keep in mind, while Google runs its own backbone and has a very, VERY fast network, you'll be using servers likely 7 or more hops away from you to resolve DNS, as opposed to your ISPs DNS servers which should be no more than 2 hops away from you.
I just tried a tracert on the DNS server my ISP (Roadrunner through TWC) uses, 209.18.47.61.
The 9th hop was to 65.24.7.12, so it wasn't even on the final network yet. After that it just timed out.

Hops to Google's 8.8.8.8 - 13.
Pingtimes to both averaged about 39ms.

Hops to Jeff7.com's nameservers - 19.

Moral of the story: Results my vary.
 

Fox5

Diamond Member
Jan 31, 2005
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I'm currently using Level 3 DNS servers (4.2.2.1, 4.2.2.2).. wonder if this will speed it up. Will running a speedtest tell me, or will I just have to browse around to see if I can tell a difference?

I just pinged Comcast, Google, OpenDNS, and Level 3's DNS servers...
Level 3 was the fastest
Followed by OpenDNS
Comcast and Google were about the same.

I think I'll put one dns from google, one from opendns, and one from level 3 (assuming level 3 is free).

In fact, I just did. Judging by when I type in a mistyped URL, OpenDNS's page shows up first, I'll assume it's beating out google, comcast, and level 3 is responding. I hate openDNS's search engine, but comcast's is worse. I'm tempted to just put google as my dns just to get their search engine on mistyped urls.
 

Kalmah

Diamond Member
Oct 2, 2003
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I just tried a tracert on the DNS server my ISP (Roadrunner through TWC) uses, 209.18.47.61.
The 9th hop was to 65.24.7.12, so it wasn't even on the final network yet. After that it just timed out.

Hops to Google's 8.8.8.8 - 13.
Pingtimes to both averaged about 39ms.

Hops to Jeff7.com's nameservers - 19.

Moral of the story: Results my vary.

I had 21ms to google and 43 to opendns.
 

dwell

pics?
Oct 9, 1999
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~8ms from my isp vs ~16ms for Google. Fuuuck you goog, especially because the only reason you're doing this is to track me.
 

spidey07

No Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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I just pinged Comcast, Google, OpenDNS, and Level 3's DNS servers...
Level 3 was the fastest
Followed by OpenDNS
Comcast and Google were about the same.

I think I'll put one dns from google, one from opendns, and one from level 3 (assuming level 3 is free).

In fact, I just did. Judging by when I type in a mistyped URL, OpenDNS's page shows up first, I'll assume it's beating out google, comcast, and level 3 is responding. I hate openDNS's search engine, but comcast's is worse. I'm tempted to just put google as my dns just to get their search engine on mistyped urls.

I hope you realize it doesn't send the query to all name servers, only the first listed. It only tries the others if there is no reply.
 

Rubycon

Madame President
Aug 10, 2005
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I hope you realize it doesn't send the query to all name servers, only the first listed. It only tries the others if there is no reply.

Does latency even matter to the DNS server?

Using NSLOOKUP.EXE in Windows it will use your default DNS server in TCP/IP properties but you can type in SERVER x.x.x.x and get a reply and all queries are against THAT specified server.

Chances are the server will take longer to return non cached requests. Noticeably longer. I mean even a ping of 200ms which is about as long as you blinking your eyes (but relatively slow for networks) should not make a difference in how fast your browser begins loading pages does it?
 

Fox5

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Jan 31, 2005
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I hope you realize it doesn't send the query to all name servers, only the first listed. It only tries the others if there is no reply.

You sure? I put google first on purpose and opendns still returns results.
 

Crow550

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Oct 4, 2005
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~8ms from my isp vs ~16ms for Google. Fuuuck you goog, especially because the only reason you're doing this is to track me.

Doesn't every company have some type of tracking in place? I mean take free e-mail for example.....

You think Yahoo & Microsoft aren't doing similar things that say Gmail does? Same with search engines....Same with free DNS services.
 

lxskllr

No Lifer
Nov 30, 2004
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Doesn't every company have some type of tracking in place? I mean take free e-mail for example.....

You think Yahoo & Microsoft aren't doing similar things that say Gmail does?

Yup, and what's it matter in the end? I get some targeted ads I never see; no big deal.
 

dwell

pics?
Oct 9, 1999
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Doesn't every company have some type of tracking in place? I mean take free e-mail for example.....

Every company doesn't have:

1) All of my searches.
2) All the web sites I hit.
3) All of my emails.
4) A satellite picture of my house!

They're probably only making Chrome OS so they can turn the web cam on and index pics of us all sitting on our asses.
 

spidey07

No Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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You sure? I put google first on purpose and opendns still returns results.

A DNS resolver isn't supposed to send it to every server unless it is acting as a Server itself. Aka a soho router which does some DNS funny business.
 

mjrpes3

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Oct 2, 2004
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Allowing Google to handle DNS requests, rather than an ISP, will also mean that mistyped URLs will be redirected to a Google error page rather than an ISP-controlled one, on which the owner of the DNS server can place their own ads, PCMag.com software analyst Michael Muchmore noted.

This is the reason that makes most sense to me. Google sees ISPs implementing error pages of their own, so like in any arms-race Google wants to get in on the action.
 

Double Trouble

Elite Member
Oct 9, 1999
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As much as I like Google stuff, this strikes me as a bit too big brotherish, I'm staying away from google dns.
 

EightySix Four

Diamond Member
Jul 17, 2004
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The most likely reason to me is that they can actively track requests so they know what pages need to be cached/indexed. If enough people are hitting a page then Google knows the data is popular, they can index it, and possibly have it change its ratings within google searches.

Oh, and track you for targeted ads.
 

Kev

Lifer
Dec 17, 2001
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Well if they are doing this for datamining purposes, they'll only get data on geeks and google fanboys, which I can't imagine being extremely useful.

Most people I know can't even change the homepage of their browser, let alone their DNS. Most people don't even know what a DNS is.
 
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