Google Pixel C Tablet

Ravynmagi

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http://androidandme.com/2015/09/new...blet-with-a-detachable-keyboard-and-lightbar/

Wow, this sounds amazing, I hope it's real. Android and Me is reporting that Google will unveil a Pixel branded tablet, oddly running Android M (not Chrome OS as Pixels usually run).

It will look like a Pixel without the attached keyboard (so I guess aluminum and squarish looking). There will be keyboard accessories. Nvidia X1 SoC with Maxwell GPU, 3GB of RAM.

I'm very excited. I kinda blame Google for the Android tablet race to the bottom when they announced the $200 Nexus 7. Everyone after that went super cheap to compete. And now I'm hoping Google is coming out with a high end tablet (Nexus 9 isn't that) that will hopefully get it's partners interesting in making high end tablets again (nobody is now, Tab S2 is running last years SoC).


UPDATE: Pixel C announced.

10.2 inch 2560x1800 (308 ppi) 500 nits display
Nvidia Tegra X1 SoC
3GB RAM
8MP/2MP cameras
USB C
Aluminum build
7mm thick, about 1 pound weight

32GB for $499
64GB for $599
keyboard $149
 
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Red Storm

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Very interesting. I am looking forward to seeing it. Maybe this means next year we'll get a Pixel phone?
 
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Interesting but I have a bad feeling this might make the iPad Pro seem like a good deal. Unless Google matches Surface/iPad Pro in features, or offers decently better value, I just feel like this isn't going to be competitive. But then I'm sure it'll be targeted to a certain niche like the other Pixels, but even then, it'll be a tough sell in my opinion. But I'm not a fan of Android (or iOS frankly), so to me Surface Pro would likely just plain kill either device in real usability, and definitely in value (I'm personally guessing this Pixel tablet is going to be closer to $1000 than $500).
 

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Android offers little value these days as a tablet environment, thanks to Google's total disinterest in the platform. The only reasons I'm sticking with it so far is because my tablet needs are modest (TV shows, youtube, web browsing, PDF/ebook reading) and Samsung's AMOLED displays,. Once you get used to the backlight not being there, it's hard to go back to IPS.
 

Red Storm

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Android offers little value these days as a tablet environment, thanks to Google's total disinterest in the platform. The only reasons I'm sticking with it so far is because my tablet needs are modest (TV shows, youtube, web browsing, PDF/ebook reading) and Samsung's AMOLED displays,. Once you get used to the backlight not being there, it's hard to go back to IPS.

Most people's tablet (and smartphone) needs are modest as well. That's the norm, not the exception.
 

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Most people's tablet (and smartphone) needs are modest as well. That's the norm, not the exception.

Yes, but I was thinking about cases where people would care about the number of games/apps specifically designed for the bigger screen. If you care about the so-called ecosystem, the iPad is going to have an advantage there over Android.
 

Red Storm

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Yes, but I was thinking about cases where people would care about the number of games/apps specifically designed for the bigger screen. If you care about the so-called ecosystem, the iPad is going to have an advantage there over Android.

In some cases definitely. But on the flipside, Android can be used like a traditional notebook more so than an iPad can.

I would rather have a Pixel tablet than an iPad Pro, and I would rather have an iPad Mini than a Nexus 7.
 

Mopetar

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In some cases definitely. But on the flipside, Android can be used like a traditional notebook more so than an iPad can.

In that case why not just get a Surface which is even better in that regard and would be able to run all the PC apps that you'd probably want to use on such a device.

Both Apple and Google are woefully behind in that regard.
 

Red Storm

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In that case why not just get a Surface which is even better in that regard and would be able to run all the PC apps that you'd probably want to use on such a device.

Both Apple and Google are woefully behind in that regard.

I don't want a PC. The only reason why I still even have one at home is because I play PC games and Plex server (can't wait for the day we get Plex server for Android...). Excluding that, Android takes care of every computing need I have. I have a work issued Surface Pro 3. It's a neat ultrabook, but it's a terrible tablet.

Anyhow, the Pixel looks real nice, but I was expecting something more with it, like a stylus or more storage size options, etc. The price isn't too bad though, was expecting much higher with the Pixel name.
 
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ultimatebob

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Meh... I wanted a cheap replacement for my broken Nexus 7, not something expensive that completes with the Surface Pro and iPad Pro.
 

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You have Plex server for Android. Your phone/tablet can broadcast as a server.

So, go for it.
 

Raduque

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After buying a Surface Pro 2, I have pretty much zero interest in an Android tablet that's more than $200 for a 10" display. I have an Asus TF101 and an iPad Mini 3.
 

Ravynmagi

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Meh... I wanted a cheap replacement for my broken Nexus 7, not something expensive that completes with the Surface Pro and iPad Pro.

I can't swing a dead rat around this place without hitting a dozen tablets that compete with the Nexus 7. That's the big problem to me is everyone is making cheap tablets now.

Asus ZenPad 8 for $200 looks pretty nice. The new Amazon Fire HD 8 looks okay at $150 if you want something pretty and kid friendly.

I'm very happy Google didn't try to make something that competes with the iPad Pro or Surface Pro either. $1000 for something that's too big to be a tablet and too awkward to be a laptop doesn't seem that great to me.

A $500 premium 10 inch Android tablet is exactly what I was hoping for. I just hope it isn't too heavy.
 

Ravynmagi

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That come with stock and fast updates?

There are far too many cheap tablets and far too few quality high end tablets. And we usually only get one or two Nexus tablets a year. This year Google went with a mid range Nexus 8 and a high end Pixel C. I think those were good choices. I would love to see a new Nexus 7 also. But I far more wanted what they announced today. I'm actually still using my Nexus 7 regularly and it runs quite well.
 

luv2liv

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No micro SD? No deal.
And for $500,might as well get a Surface to do real work.
 

Commodus

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Android offers little value these days as a tablet environment, thanks to Google's total disinterest in the platform. The only reasons I'm sticking with it so far is because my tablet needs are modest (TV shows, youtube, web browsing, PDF/ebook reading) and Samsung's AMOLED displays,. Once you get used to the backlight not being there, it's hard to go back to IPS.

I wouldn't call it so much disinterest as an inability to understand what other form factors need for success. Just add a tiny bit of scaling code and it'll solve absolutely everything! Google still doesn't do much to get developers truly optimizing apps for tablets, and Google Play still makes it nigh-on impossible to find the apps that have been optimized. You're just supposed to know... somehow.

Android does have advantages on tablets, but it's still pretty telling that a lot of the Android phone owners I know still point to the iPad when asked about tablet recommendations. Tablets are app machines at heart, even more than phones -- all the widgets in the world don't matter if the game or social networking app you want is either poorly-optimized or refuses to run. And like it or not, the iPad has a much stronger app selection.
 
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thilanliyan

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Samsung's AMOLED displays,. Once you get used to the backlight not being there, it's hard to go back to IPS.

Exactly. Before buying I compared the Ipad Mini 3 and Tab S 8.4 side by side and there was just no comparison on the screen quality. Plus, my use case includes watching lots of 16:9 video, which is a lot better on the Tab S. I am willing to suffer the occasional stutter (which HAS got better with the Lollipop update) as long as I can have that screen.
 
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I'm surprised at the price, and while that makes it more appealing, I still don't think it is that appealing. It doesn't seem like it'd be a good fit for movies or games due to the high resolution and weird aspect ratio. It doesn't seem like it'd be a good fit for content creation, other than maybe for writers/editors? Maybe photo people who just need to view content with very light editing? But I'd guess most of them would either be tied into Apple or Microsoft.

Ugh, and yet another ridiculously priced keyboard. I don't even know why it is Bluetooth either as it is so tailored for this tablet that it just seems like it would've made more sense to make it connect like the Surface covers do.

If it had a stylus it would've been a nice competitor for the Surface 3 (non-Pro) and offered a more svelte tablet for that than the iPad Pro or Surface ones.
 

ultimatebob

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I can't swing a dead rat around this place without hitting a dozen tablets that compete with the Nexus 7. That's the big problem to me is everyone is making cheap tablets now.

Most of the other 7" tablets out there are underpowered, and don't run the latest stock version of Android.

The last Nexus 7 tablet came out in 2013, so it's overdue for a replacement.
 
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