Google TV

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

How far has Google TV come since it was announced? I did a Google search and came up with an old engadget article, Oct 29th 2010. They mentioned Flash 10.1, the Atom CE 4100.. sounds kinda outdated..

I'm asking because it might end up as a holiday gift this season..

Thanks,

*Cheers*

 

[bobdole369]

It's dead. Logitech Revue the only standalone product that made it out this year and they regret the shit out of it.

 

[Aharami]

man...google always half asses everything

 

[ponyo]

Honeycomb update. Now has Android market support. I love my Google TV.

Google TV2 refresh should arrive sometime mid 2012.

 

[alfa147x]

It's dead. Logitech Revue the only standalone product that made it out this year and they regret the shit out of it.

man...google always half asses everything

These^

 

[queequeg99]

man...google always half asses everything

No kidding. Too bad they went blew up one of the better PC-based DVR solutions in the process (SageTV). What a useless waste of an awesome product.

 

[mshan]

At $100 and with Honeycomb update, I think it's a good deal (not good deal at $200).

Does have a fan that is always on, so may be an issue if used in a bedroom system (slightly audible at idle in quiet room).

"Kicking things off is the Logitech Revue with a 1.2GHz Atom A4 is 1GHz). Accompanying that Atom is 1GB DDR3 RAM, and 5GB NAND flash. Just for the sake of comparison, Apple TV has 256MB of RAM but wins out when it comes to storage with 8GB of flash."

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Google-TV-Revue-iFixit-Teardowns-atom,11533.html#xtor=RSS-181

 

[alfa147x]

At $100 and with Honeycomb update, I think it's a good deal (not good deal at $200).

Does have a fan that is always on, so may be an issue if used in a bedroom system (slightly audible at idle in quiet room).

I wouldn't even bring in the aTV unless you're submerged in the Apple ecosystem. I have a jailbroken aTV and love it. My roommate (works for Google) has a Google TV... That never gets used

The google TV tbh is overrated. I would honestly recommend a roku box.
Apple Tv if 1) you can get a good deal on it ($50) 2) You like jailbreaking things

 

[ponyo]

I wouldn't even bring in the aTV unless you're submerged in the Apple ecosystem. I have a jailbroken aTV and love it. My roommate (works for Google) has a Google TV... That never gets used

The google TV tbh is overrated. I would honestly recommend a roku box.
Apple Tv if 1) you can get a good deal on it ($50) 2) You like jailbreaking things

I disagree. Google TV is highly underrated. Google TV is by far the best over stock Apple TV and Roku. I would buy Roku over Apple TV. I wouldn't pay even $50 for Apple TV if I couldn't JB it. Stock Apple TV is almost useless device. Now JB ATV2, I would take over Google TV but only if ATV2 was running XBMC. If not, I would take Google TV.

 

[alfa147x]

I disagree. Google TV is highly underrated. Google TV is by far the best over stock Apple TV and Roku. I would buy Roku over Apple TV. I wouldn't pay even $50 for Apple TV if I couldn't JB it. Stock Apple TV is almost useless device. Now JB ATV2, I would take over Google TV but only if ATV2 was running XBMC. If not, I would take Google TV.

The latest version of the aTv. No one said 1st gen


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[ponyo]

The latest version of the aTv. No one said 1st gen


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I was referring to current gen/ latest Apple TV. 1st gen is museum piece and I only read about it on XBMC plugin support forum.

 

[alfa147x]

I was referring to current gen/ latest Apple TV. 1st gen is museum piece and I only read about it on XBMC plugin support forum.

Just making sure. Your last post had me questioning which one we were both talking about.

Also the Roku and JB aTV support PLEX.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Which TV can be used to stream backed up movies from a PC?

 

[mshan]

My recommendation was from the perspective of a very cheap computer with wireless keyboard / mousepad for someone like my mom who just needs light web surfing device.

second gen aTV with XBMC or other products alpha147x said for media playback.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Yeah but if the PC is not in the same room then how do you connect the TV to your PC? The built in WiFi, right?

 

[ponyo]

Just making sure. Your last post had me questioning which one we were both talking about.

Also the Roku and JB aTV support PLEX.

Google TV, Roku, and JB ATV2 all support Plex. Google TV doesn't even really need Plex since it natively supports many of the popular formats like mkv out of the box. Google TV can play local USB connected files or stream it from a server without the need of Plex. Something Roku or ATV2 can't do. Roku can only play mkv via usb.

Then you have the whole Google TV search/internet. Picture in Picture, Google Market, and the awesome keyboard. I can press the search key and type something simple as "Atlanta Falcons game" and it will list the game if it's live, show me the channel it's on, and give me the option to change to it to watch it. Or if it's on later, give me the time and option to DVR record. Or if it's already over and it's on my DVR, let me play and watch it. Same for pretty much any show or events. I type a show and it will search my DVR, what's currently on TV right now, what's coming up, and videos of the show available on the web. What people are speculating the new Apple TV set with Siri will be able to do with voice commands, Google TV can already do with the keyboard and trackpad. And parts of it are brilliant. Parts need work. But it's freaking sweet overall package. Most people who pan it haven't even used it or given it a chance. Google TV is definitely underrated and misunderstood. Most of it is Google's fault and Logitech's crazy $350 launch price. But $99 firesale fixed the pricing issue and Honeycomb update fixed many shortcomings. Google TV version 2.0 will be out by summer of 2012 and will be running on ARM instead of Intel Atom. Eric Schmidt claims 50% of all new TVs sold next summer will have Google TV2 hardware built-in. That's a bold prediction but shows you Google TV is not dead.

 

[ponyo]

My recommendation was from the perspective of a very cheap computer with wireless keyboard / mousepad for someone like my mom who just needs light web surfing device.

second gen aTV with XBMC or other products alpha147x said for media playback.

Google TV has Plex. You can download it from the Google TV Android market for 99 cents. It's missing couple of features of ATV2 version like subtitle support but it's far more stable and has better playback than JB ATV2 Plex.

 

[alfa147x]

Yeah but if the PC is not in the same room then how do you connect the TV to your PC? The built in WiFi, right?

Use Roku + Plex + Plex media server on the PC

Using Plex allows you to be able stream any media to the Roku and it auto gathers data for you. Also sorts all of your file as well. Say you Band of Brothers in 10 differnt folders. On the Roku/tv it'll show up like it's one collection.
Like this:

Also with Plex server you can push media to mobile devices. Over 3G

Google TV, Roku, and JB ATV2 all support Plex. Google TV doesn't even really need Plex since it natively supports many of the popular formats like mkv out of the box. Google TV can play local USB connected files or stream it from a server without the need of Plex. Something Roku or ATV2 can't do. Roku can only play mkv via usb.

Then you have the whole Google TV search/internet. Picture in Picture, Google Market, and the awesome keyboard. I can press the search key and type something simple as "Atlanta Falcons game" and it will list the game if it's live, show me the channel it's on, and give me the option to change to it to watch it. Or if it's on later, give me the time and option to DVR record. Or if it's already over and it's on my DVR, let me play and watch it. Same for pretty much any show or events. I type a show and it will search my DVR, what's currently on TV right now, what's coming up, and videos of the show available on the web. What people are speculating the new Apple TV set with Siri will be able to do with voice commands, Google TV can already do with the keyboard and trackpad. And parts of it are brilliant. Parts need work. But it's freaking sweet overall package. Most people who pan it haven't even used it or given it a chance. Google TV is definitely underrated and misunderstood. Most of it is Google's fault and Logitech's crazy $350 launch price. But $99 firesale fixed the pricing issue and Honeycomb update fixed many shortcomings. Google TV version 2.0 will be out by summer of 2012 and will be running on ARM instead of Intel Atom. Eric Schmidt claims 50% of all new TVs sold next summer will have Google TV2 hardware built-in. That's a bold prediction but shows you Google TV is not dead.

You're right. gTv has Plex too. Love what those guys are doing over there!

Google Tv is pretty much a dead beaten horse. Schmidt has been talking a lot lately. I fear they may not be able to back their future claims. I would talk about android's broken system but that's a discussion for another thread.

 

[alfa147x]

What pisses me off is Roku's product line. I wish they had more options with ethernet. Ethernet + 1080p - games = perfect for Alfa

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

So the current Sony Google TVs are good but I should wait?

http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/sto...52921666273508

 

[alfa147x]

Also the Roku XD (1080p + SD slot | no games or ethernet) sales for $50 on sale. Half of the aTV or the firesale price on the gTV

 

[alfa147x]

So the current Sony Google TVs are good but I should wait?

http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/sto...52921666273508

My only worry with that is long term updates. Is that something Sony has been known for?

 

[ponyo]

You're right. gTv has Plex too. Love what those guys are doing over there!

Google Tv is pretty much a dead beaten horse. Schmidt has been talking a lot lately. I fear they may not be able to back their future claims. I would talk about android's broken system but that's a discussion for another thread.

Schmidt may be talking crazy but Google TV is not dead. Current one is dead like the original Apple TV is dead. Google TV will march on with v2.0. 3.0. Etc. Motorola owns the cable and satellite topset market and Google will soon own that. Trust me Google TV will be integrated on all the cable boxes in the future. Samsung, LG, Sony, and others own huge percentage of TV market. With switch to ARM, it will be trivial and cheap to include it in new TV sets. Look at all the 3d TV sets and addons no one wanted but manufacturers all jumped on.

I don't buy 50% of all new TVs like Schmidt is forecasting but I bet good number like 5-10% new TV models will have integrated Google TV v2.0 next year.

Android broken system? That's like saying Windows is broken. I know you're major Apple fanboy but some of us can appreciate and use multiple OS and products without any problem.

 

[alfa147x]

I know you're major Apple fanboy but some of us can appreciate and use multiple OS and products without any problem.

If that's your argument you lost a long time ago.


btw Windows phone 7, Roku, and Samsung (Phones, tv's, ect) are far from Apple.

 

[magnux]

Important facts: Plex for GoogleTV supports 1080p playback. The ATV does not. Also, the Sony GTV supports DTS passthru via Plex (the Revue does not).

If running XBMC or Plex on a HTPC is not an option, for the price, the GoogleTV cannot be beat.

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