Google unveils its $300M News Initiative, with tools: subscriptions, security and fighting fake news

Amused

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Sounds promising. Of course the usual suspects will cry censorship but the fact is, nonsense, snake oil, pseudoscience and conspiratard theories are being trolled at far too alarming a rate.

Like it or not, the days of unfettered bullshit and propaganda is coming to an end.


Google unveils its $300M News Initiative, with tools for subscriptions, security and fighting fake news

Google today announced a multi-pronged News Initiative, which Chief Business Officer Phillipp Schindler described as a way to tie together all the company’s efforts to work with the journalism industry.

Google says the News Initiative is focused on three broad goals — strengthening quality journalism, supporting different business models and empowering newsrooms through technological innovation. It’s also committing to spend $300 million over the next three years on its various journalism-related projects.

At a New York City press event, Schindler told journalists and other industry attendees, “Our mission is inherently tied to your business.” He acknowledged that this might sound like “big company rhetoric.” To put it less diplomatically, news organizations might not view Google or the other big Internet platforms as allies given their dominance of the online ad business and the role they play in spreading sensationalistic or questionable stories, not to mention misinformation and hoaxes.

However, Schindler said Google has “two clear business incentives” to support high quality journalism.

First, he said Google search “by its very nature depends on the open web and depends on open access to information and that obviously depends on high quality information.” Second, he noted that Google’s DoubleClick ad business is all about splitting revenue with publishers, with $12.6 billion paid out to partners last year.

“The economics are very clear: If you do not grow, we do not grow,” Schindler said.


Again, the initiative sounds like a mix of projects and products old and new, in several different categories. When it comes to strengthening quality journalism, Schindler said Google has already been adjusting its algorithms to prioritize “more authoritative sources,” and it’s also highlighting verified sources in its results with a Top News section.

Schindler also announced a partnership with the Harvard Kennedy School’s First Draft to launch something called the Disinfo Lab, which will “use computational tools and journalistic oversight to monitor misinformation during elections.”

And there’s a separate project called MediaWise, a partnership with the Poynter Institute, Stanford University and the Local Media Association. Google.org’s Jacqueline Fuller described this as a $3 million, two-year media campaign to improve media literacy among teens.

As for business models, Google is launching Subscribe with Google, which will allow readers to sign up for paid subscriptions from partner publishers. This means that if you’re signed in to your Google account, you should be able to subscribe with a single click, and then you shouldn’t have to deal with logins and paywalls on that site again.

Google has also created a News Consumer Insights dashboard on top of Google Analytics, designed to help publishers improve subscription revenue by analyzing and segmenting their audiences.

On the tech front, Google pointed to Accelerated Mobile Pages, its open source format for fast-loading articles, which it’s expanding with a new story format for image-, video- and animation-heavy content. The company is also launching Outline, an open source tool for newsrooms to provide their journalists with secure Internet access by setting up their own VPNs on private servers.

Steve Grove, the director of Google’s News Lab, summarized several different ways his team is working to help partners incorporate tech like artificial intelligence “to take over some of the more arduous but more important tasks” — for example, it’s working The Washington Post to test out using the Google Cloud Voice API for interview transcriptions.
 
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obidamnkenobi

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It's funny that the people who are concerned about fake news (i.e. the propaganda kind, not the Trump slur kind) are the ones already reading reliable sources, and that's where this problem is debated. The people who fall for Russian fake news or "outrage news" outfits, have no interest in reading reliable sources, and what they do read this never comes up. They like their fake news and have no interest in the real kind. The people who want real news already know where to get it. How do you help someone who don't want help? Who indeed deny there is even a problem?
 

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It's funny that the people who are concerned about fake news (i.e. the propaganda kind, not the Trump slur kind) are the ones already reading reliable sources, and that's where this problem is debated. The people who fall for Russian fake news or "outrage news" outfits, have no interest in reading reliable sources, and what they do read this never comes up. They like their fake news and have no interest in the real kind. The people who want real news already know where to get it. How do you help someone who don't want help? Who indeed deny there is even a problem?

Most of the people duped are those who see it in feeds and searches. Not people out looking for it. It's then shared and spreads like a virus. If the initial idiot doesn't find it and share it, it doesn't spread.
 

Starbuck1975

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Smart move by Google. Fake news is a virus, but it requires a host. Facebook is taking a beating in the market for their lack of leadership and transparency on this issue. Social media platforms, much like reputable journalists and news sources, have a responsibility to not only censor content, but also protect the powerful user data they now control. Facebook is failing on both fronts.

Platforms that monetize mouse clicks, especially in the age of machine learning, are easily exploitable.
 
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It's funny that the people who are concerned about fake news (i.e. the propaganda kind, not the Trump slur kind) are the ones already reading reliable sources, and that's where this problem is debated. The people who fall for Russian fake news or "outrage news" outfits, have no interest in reading reliable sources, and what they do read this never comes up. They like their fake news and have no interest in the real kind. The people who want real news already know where to get it. How do you help someone who don't want help? Who indeed deny there is even a problem?
I went to the first news cite that popped into my mind, CNN to look for what I think is a related and important source of the problem. Take a look at this shit in the paid content section:
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People have been trained from childhood to spend money to first have and then satisfy sick emotional needs. The people who gravitate to fake news for an emotional fix were trained to be that way by for profit media. The best minds in the world have been put to work to find the best ways to extract money from people. Happy people don't have emotional needs that are not self satisfied via personal integrity. The economy survives and prospers on the basis of people being emotionally sick. But like mites in a wheel of cheese, when enough is eaten from within, the wheel collapses and the mites all die.
 

hal2kilo

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Smart move by Google. Fake news is a virus, but it requires a host. Facebook is taking a beating in the market for their lack of leadership and transarency on this issue. Social media platforms, much like reputable journalists and news sources, have a responsibility to not only censor content, but also protect the powerful user data they now control. Facebook is failing on both fronts.

Platforms that monetize mouse clicks, especially in the age of machine learning, are easily exploitable.

I wish FB had done something. I was seriously thinking about finally dumping the stock, mostly because of this type of crap but the latest news, holy crap. I'll still be way ahead if I sell it, but it was worth 20 bucks a share more last week. Also, never a member.
 

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It's funny that the people who are concerned about fake news (i.e. the propaganda kind, not the Trump slur kind) are the ones already reading reliable sources, and that's where this problem is debated. The people who fall for Russian fake news or "outrage news" outfits, have no interest in reading reliable sources, and what they do read this never comes up. They like their fake news and have no interest in the real kind. The people who want real news already know where to get it. How do you help someone who don't want help? Who indeed deny there is even a problem?

The way to fight it is to make fake news unprofitable for the purveyors of it. Many of these conspiracy and outrage sites do it for the ad revenue. Google should simply identify these sham media sites and cut off their revenue dollars, and scrub all their links from their search results, and perhaps even threaten to cut off the ad revenue for other sites that consistently link to this garbage. Of course conservatives will cry about their free speech rights being violated since their daily consumption of lies and outrage is like a drug to them, but who really cares?
 

obidamnkenobi

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The way to fight it is to make fake news unprofitable for the purveyors of it. Many of these conspiracy and outrage sites do it for the ad revenue. Google should simply identify these sham media sites and cut off their revenue dollars, and scrub all their links from their search results, and perhaps even threaten to cut off the ad revenue for other sites that consistently link to this garbage. Of course conservatives will cry about their free speech rights being violated since their daily consumption of lies and outrage is like a drug to them, but who really cares?

My point is that anyone who's stupid enough to believe and share this nonsense has no interest in reality anyway. They share pizzagate because it reaffirms their prior beliefs. Nobody hates Hillary, or immigrants, or the EPA or whatever because they read a bogus story about how they're turning your children into satanist. They read and shared the story because they already hated those things. So stopping fake news won't change anyone's mind, they'll still believe stupid shit for irrational/emotional reasons. So I don't think it's bad to stop this, but I also think it's pointless.
 
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