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Well, 720p on a 4.3" (342 ppi) makes more sense than 1080p on a 5.0" (441 ppi) or 5.2" (424 ppi).

But yeah, keeping up with the joneses and all that. Nobody understands what "900p" is, or
"ppi", but they do understand "1080p" is desirable, at least on a 55" LED TV.
 

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That's not really what the Nexus line is about though.
I don't think anyone here truly knows what the Nexus line is really about.

People keep saying it's a developer phone, yet others say it's a phone built to stimulate carriers to change their business model. I'd say it's a bit of everything, including a phone aimed at the mainstream, not just developers (as evidenced by the fact they hid the developer features in the latest edition of Android), and in the end Google wants to put out a phone that isn't crap and that will make lots of people happy.

Well, to make me happy, they should release a 4.3" phone.
 
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I don't think this will be a "Nexus". Heck, it may even have microSD and will probably launch on carriers.

However, I wouldn't be surprised if it's the first KLP device.
 

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I'd say there is a 90% chance it will not have microSD. I also say there is a 90% chance it will be a Nexus, but I do agree it will launch on carriers, complete with LTE.

And yes, definitely Key Lime Pie (or later).
 

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I don't think anyone here truly knows what the Nexus line is really about.

People keep saying it's a developer phone, yet others say it's a phone built to stimulate carriers to change their business model. I'd say it's a bit of everything, including a phone aimed at the mainstream, not just developers (as evidenced by the fact they hid the developer features in the latest edition of Android), and in the end Google wants to put out a phone that isn't crap and that will make lots of people happy.

Well, to make me happy, they should release a 4.3" phone.

The Nexus was never a phone for carriers to change their business model. It was a phone that set the baseline for the rest of Android phones for that year.
 

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I also say there is a 90% chance it will be a Nexus
I don't think so. Remember, this is the Motorola brand relaunch. If it's a "Nexus", then all of Moto's future is tied to the "Nexus" brand, which means there's no room for Samsung et al., who flip out.
 

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The Nexus was never a phone for carriers to change their business model. It was a phone that set the baseline for the rest of Android phones for that year.

I think the nexus line is a lever that Google is going to apply to achieve whatever it needs, be that getting more developers or trying to shape the market.
 

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So this sounds more plausible to me than it being a Nexus, esp. since the original thread has since been totally redacted:
I heard about an upcoming phone that moto is going to use as their flagship phone in the first half of 2013. This is from a very reputable source.

Apparently this phone is called the “X Phone” or something along those lines and has buttons on the back of the phone. He said that a camera button is in the middle of the phone with volume up and down buttons on both sides of it all on the back face of the phone. He said it is supposed to be more ergonomic while holding the phone.

He also said that the phone is going to get every piece premium piece of technology that moto has, so you can expect a quad core processor (s4 pro likely), 2 GB ram, LTE, Maxx style battery etc.

He also talked a lot about the phone having a ton of new voice command features and swiping gestures to accomplish tasks. He said the idea of this phone is to completely change the way we ergonomically have to interact with our phones. I.e. that it would take less than two seconds from the phone being in the pocket to using the camera. These features would be built on top of android as a stand alone proprietary suite app so that moto can be dedicated to updating to all new google updates in 3 months or less.

When I asked about a moto nexus he said there is currently no plans as everything they have is being put into this phone, we can expect a massive ad campaign for it in 2013 to promote it. He also said that while it sounds terrible once you hold one and see how it works you will like it a lot more.
I actually expect quad A15 (Tegra4 maybe?) and not S4pro, but we'll see.
 

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They can call it whatever they want, as long as Google provides updates to it just like a Nexus. It would quite embarrassing if Google discontinues and lags behind on updates with Motorola.
 

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That's almost exactly what I said in another thread. Great minds think alike.

I have the 4.7" 720p Razr HD, but what I really want is a 4.3" 640p-720p Razr M. (The current Razr M is 540p.) Quad-core + 2 GB, but with great battery life, and a good build quality with improved aesthetics like the Razr HD, and near-stock Android would be perfect.

In essence, I'm asking for my Razr HD to get 2 GB RAM and quad-core but slimmed down into a phone with a 300+ ppi 4.3" screen, with near-stock Key Lime Pie.

yeah exactly.

its not like they don't make 4.3" 720p screens too (the 720p 4.3" on the rezound would have been great....). its obvious the M was intentionally gimped to be "mid range" compared to the HD. but yeah, if they added the screen and a few more cores and ram, they can book my money for a "droid razr m 2" or whatever.

i don tthink it'll be a nexus phone either. honestly maybe i'm giving up my geek card here, but the galaxy nexus even was buggy for several builds. these locked down phones they seem to do more testing on, and im actually somewhat seeing verizon's point of view on this, since the gnexus had some issues that im sure normal users called support for etc. i'd think if they sold a "developer" edition like they do for the current razr hd / razr m, that would be fine for real devs who need root ( at work, we actually root normal phones, so we can change the host files to browse our staging websites... so even web developers need dev phones sometimes)
 
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i have gs3 and id much rather have razr maxx hd.
I'm not a fan of either so yours words are lost on me but I feel you are in the minority that wants the Razr Maxx HD. All the Razrs are ugly fones.
edit: My mistake, the Maxx HD is a hot phone I had not seen this, I would go for that too.
Moto's sales are terrible because of poor marketing primarily and maybe one generation (Bionic and Razr) of not so hot phones. The Droid X was the best Android phone on the market at the time and the Razr Maxx HD(and the non Maxx version for that matter) is better than the Galaxy S3. When your devices are the best and sales are not so great marketing is pretty much always the reason why.

thats a good point I guess Droid X was prett good.
 

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Samsung's ads are sometimes a little too centred on dissing Apple, but nonetheless they're often quite amusing. Samsung overall has a good ad campaign, but Moto not so much.

The RAZRs are also single-carrier in Canada, sort of. They're on more than one carrier, but all owned by the same company using the same network. Meanwhile, they have both the iPhone 5 and the GS3, as do all of their main competition.

Funny you should mention that..

Google Nabs a Key Partner’s Top Marketer: Samsung Exec Brian Wallace Goes to Motorola
 

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I'm not a fan of either so yours words are lost on me but I feel you are in the minority that wants the Razr Maxx HD. All the Razrs are ugly fones.
edit: My mistake, the Maxx HD is a hot phone I had not seen this, I would go for that too.
Heh.

But yeah, I prefer the styling of the RAZR MAXX HD and RAZR HD over a lot of phones out there. I think it's just that a lot of people haven't seen it. They certainly look better from the back than last year's RAZRs. I still prefer the look of the BB10 (at least going by pictures) and the iPhone 5 though, although the iPhone 5s are already getting lots of scuff marks.

The one benefit of the RAZR HD in Canada is there isn't that stupid logo stamped on the bottom front. This is actually what the Rogers/Fido RAZR HD looks like:



Even better would be if they got rid of the Motorola logo.
 

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i totally disagree. i much prefer the look of razr to iphone, and it has the practical advantage of being much more durable as welll. motorola makes beautiful, functional stuff (hardware and software), its really the only company that has designs that, while different, are on par with apples, which is probably why motorola phones are more expensive that samsung/htc etc...

i hope rim makes a comeback even though i wouldnt buy their stuff because i dont think they have what it takes to update it to compete with android/apple. are any of you guys buying rim stock right now/last week?
 

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Owning both an iPhone 4 and a Moto Razr HD, I'd say the design and build is nicer on the iPhone 4. I do think it looks better, but that's another aspect I'm not directly referring to.

For example, on the Razr HD, the glass is tapered at the edges. However, then it has a raised rim around it, forming a crevice with the glass, and that collects dust like mad. You wouldn't see that just looking at the pictures, but it's a design feature that doesn't make a lot of sense to me. OTOH, black anodized aluminum doesn't make much sense to me either, as it collects a lot of very obvious scuffs. Brushed aluminum would hide scuffs better.

BTW, the reason I picked up the Moto over the Samsung GS3 is not only because I like it much better, but also because on my carrier (Fido) it was essentially free. The GS3 was horrendously expensive, on par cost-wise with the iPhone:

iPhone 5
$179 on 3-year contract, with a higher monthly cost ($67/mo after negotiation).
No 2-year contract option.

Galaxy S III
$100 on 3-year contract, with the same high monthly cost as the iPhone.
Two-year contract option available with a mid priced plan ($56, no negotation), but with the phone at $400. (That's more than the Nexus 4 with no contract!)

RAZR HD
$50 on 2-year contract with a mid-priced plan ($56, no negotiation). (I had some promotional bux that covered the $50.)

Given those options, the RAZR HD is no-brainer choice. (The $56 and $67 plans are exactly the same.)

Since then, the GS3 has dropped to $250 on a 2-year plan, but it's still $200 more expensive than the RAZR HD.
 

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This "tip" sounds like some guy's wishlist.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/More...battery-Sony-camera-sensor-and-Kevlar_id39368

One of his contacts is allegedly already toying with an early prototype of the Motorola X phone, and his observations so far tie in with what we heard from Google during the last quarterly conference call - that it will work with Moto to address two critical areas where today's smartphones are lacking - battery life and durability.

Toughness will apparently be taken care of with a Kevlar chassis, a material Motorola is already using for its current phones, while battery life is addressed by simply stuffing the X with unit capacity in the realm of Moto's MAXX line of handsets. Though still a prototype, the source said the handset managed to get them through several road trip hours on a charge with the GPS software constantly on, which usually is an activity that kills your juicer in no time.

The phone is allegedly planned to have a screen size about 4.8", though we've heard 5" before, the obligatory quad-core processor, and, thankfully, a microSD card slot, despite that storage is rumored to go all the way up to a 128 GB version. We'll have to see that last one to believe it, though if the rumored $299.99 tag on Verizon with a contract holds water, this might be the version to justify such pricing.

We saved the best for last - besides running stock Android at the moment, the phone is apparently outfitted with a much better camera than the crappy units Motorola currently uses, and the source said it could be a Sony sensor, as Apple's exclusivity with the Japanese has drawn to an end.


Out of all of that, what I really wish for is a much, much better camera. That's the Achilles' heel of the RAZR HD and RAZR MAXX HD line. Oh and it should get more memory. But what I really want is all of that in a 4.3" package a la RAZR M.
 

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This "tip" sounds like some guy's wishlist.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/More...battery-Sony-camera-sensor-and-Kevlar_id39368

One of his contacts is allegedly already toying with an early prototype of the Motorola X phone, and his observations so far tie in with what we heard from Google during the last quarterly conference call - that it will work with Moto to address two critical areas where today's smartphones are lacking - battery life and durability.

Toughness will apparently be taken care of with a Kevlar chassis, a material Motorola is already using for its current phones, while battery life is addressed by simply stuffing the X with unit capacity in the realm of Moto's MAXX line of handsets. Though still a prototype, the source said the handset managed to get them through several road trip hours on a charge with the GPS software constantly on, which usually is an activity that kills your juicer in no time.

The phone is allegedly planned to have a screen size about 4.8", though we've heard 5" before, the obligatory quad-core processor, and, thankfully, a microSD card slot, despite that storage is rumored to go all the way up to a 128 GB version. We'll have to see that last one to believe it, though if the rumored $299.99 tag on Verizon with a contract holds water, this might be the version to justify such pricing.

We saved the best for last - besides running stock Android at the moment, the phone is apparently outfitted with a much better camera than the crappy units Motorola currently uses, and the source said it could be a Sony sensor, as Apple's exclusivity with the Japanese has drawn to an end.


Out of all of that, what I really wish for is a much, much better camera. That's the Achilles' heel of the RAZR HD and RAZR MAXX HD line. Oh and it should get more memory. But what I really want is all of that in a 4.3" package a la RAZR M.

None of that sounds particularly unlikely apart from maybe the amount of storage and sdcard.

Should be a nice phone. Hopefully it'll be not locked up like a lot of moto stuff.
 

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The only killer feature I can imagine for phone-KLP is Glass integration. Other prospective improvements -- full Chrome! windows! -- all seem like tablet stuff.

But what I really want is all of that in a 4.3" package a la RAZR M.
I think you're more likely to get it from HTC this year.
 
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Leaked pix of a new Motorola phone:

https://twitter.com/evleaks/status/330056422664597504/photo/1

Odd looking bezel. I was thinking it is not a case because it's a brand new phone so a case wouldn't likely be available. Or is it just a prototype enclosure?

Isn't that to hide what the actual device will look like? There was some other phone that had various shots with different bodies/cases so you didn't know what the final product would end up looking like.
 

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Isn't that to hide what the actual device will look like? There was some other phone that had various shots with different bodies/cases so you didn't know what the final product would end up looking like.
OK, is that what the pic description meant by "blackboxed" then? That would make more sense.
 

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Isn't that to hide what the actual device will look like? There was some other phone that had various shots with different bodies/cases so you didn't know what the final product would end up looking like.

Yeah it even says at the bottom "blackboxed motorola".

Edit: Yeah thats what blackboxed means.
 
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