GOP ACA Replacement Imminent....Predictions

[fskimospy]

Donny is on twitter this morning blaming the democrats (and a few republicans) for the failure of the bill. Also embracing his "let Obamacare collapse then the Dems will come begging" rhetoric. He really has no idea how any of this works.

The 'choose to have millions of my constituents suffer so that I can pass the bill I want' sure doesn't seem like a winning political strategy to me, but I guess we will see!

 

[Homerboy]

Donny is on twitter this morning blaming the democrats (and a few republicans) for the failure of the bill. Also embracing his "let Obamacare collapse then the Dems will come begging" rhetoric. He really has no idea how any of this works.

Please note his use of the word "loyal". What a fucking asshole.

 

[ch33zw1z]

A real cuntinuous source of inspiration.

 

[Jhhnn]

I believe my post did acknowledge them? As the opposition party and in the current hyper partisan environment, I would not expect one Democrat to cross party lines in favor of any Trump led initiative. I was pleasantly surprised to see GOP leaders break ranks.

I'm sure that Dems would back a healthcare proposal that does what Donnie said he'd do during the election.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/trump-obamacare-promises-236021

He lied, of course, but what's new, right?

 

[zinfamous]

Trump voters wanted a king, so they elected an idiot that honestly believes he is a king.

you own this, republicans.

 

[Commodus]

Donny is on twitter this morning blaming the democrats (and a few republicans) for the failure of the bill. Also embracing his "let Obamacare collapse then the Dems will come begging" rhetoric. He really has no idea how any of this works.

It really is a rudderless government. The GOP still doesn't know how to craft a policy that at least its own party members can agree on; and of course, what Trump wants can change by the hour. Of course, that first part largely stems from spending 8 years defining themselves only as the "not Democrats" and not having any substantive policies beyond enriching themselves and their lobbyist partners.

 

[Sea Ray]

By the words in the ACA law, my coverage is not affordable and it's not even close:

• Coverage is affordable for an employee if the required contribution for the lowest-cost, self-only coverage does not exceed 8 percent of household income.
• Coverage is affordable for family members if the required contribution for the lowest-cost family coverage does not exceed 8 percent of household income.

http://sullivanbenefits.net/acas-affordability-contribution-percentage-increased-for-2017/

Reason 101 why this law is a failure

 

[Thump553]

Assuming the GOP pushes through their "repeal now, replace maybe sometime down the road" bill that will be the absolute final death knell for the ACA. Stability and long-term planning (at least longer term than what Congress does) is critically important to insurers. If they don't know the ACA will be in place a year from now and what provisions it will have then, they will drop out at the first opportunity to legally do so. The GOP will kill all the exchanges. Sadly ACA is doing pretty well in my state, I have a lot of gripes about their inflexible paperwork, obtuse procedures and (still) mediocre website, but with a modicum of constructive input from Congress those can easily be fixed.

The GOP is behaving like someone who borrows your car, drives it for days with the oil light on. Eventually instead of a $2 remedy the engine is destroyed and the GOP's response is "I told you this car was a POS."

The time is ripe for both the GOP and the Dems to splinter and a new party arise from the ashes, one dedicated to pursing what actually works and leaving the hot button issues aside.

Single payer would be great, but at this point we will be lucky to hold onto Medicare & Medicaid.

 

[fskimospy]

By the words in the ACA law, my coverage is not affordable and it's not even close:

http://sullivanbenefits.net/acas-affordability-contribution-percentage-increased-for-2017/

Reason 101 why this law is a failure

So the law dramatically benefits tens of millions but because it fails a small percentage of people the law is somehow a failure. lol. The ACA has areas like yours that should be improved, but every Republican bill that you have supported would make your family's situation worse, not better. When informed of this you ignored it and returned to stubbornly repeating that the ACA was bad.

You are not interested in reason or logical discussion of health care policy.

 

[K1052]

After failing to get 51 votes to pass their healthcare bill Trump calls upon Senate to change the rules to make passage only need 51 votes.

This shit can't be made up.

 

[UNCjigga]

Now that wealthcare failed, what's the new GOP plan? It fits on a T-shirt:

 

[fskimospy]

Assuming the GOP pushes through their "repeal now, replace maybe sometime down the road" bill that will be the absolute final death knell for the ACA. Stability and long-term planning (at least longer term than what Congress does) is critically important to insurers. If they don't know the ACA will be in place a year from now and what provisions it will have then, they will drop out at the first opportunity to legally do so. The GOP will kill all the exchanges. Sadly ACA is doing pretty well in my state, I have a lot of gripes about their inflexible paperwork, obtuse procedures and (still) mediocre website, but with a modicum of constructive input from Congress those can easily be fixed.

The GOP is behaving like someone who borrows your car, drives it for days with the oil light on. Eventually instead of a $2 remedy the engine is destroyed and the GOP's response is "I told you this car was a POS."

The time is ripe for both the GOP and the Dems to splinter and a new party arise from the ashes, one dedicated to pursing what actually works and leaving the hot button issues aside.

Single payer would be great, but at this point we will be lucky to hold onto Medicare & Medicaid.

Yes, it seems likely that 'repeal and then maybe replace someday' would detonate the ACA as there would be little incentive to stay in markets that won't exist in two years. It would basically be Republicans deliberately creating a national health care crisis because they couldn't pass a health care bill when they controlled all 3 elected parts of government and decided it was better to inflict suffering on millions to get a better deal than work with their political opponents on a bipartisan bill. Absolutely revolting.

In a sane world any party that even suggested this should be signing their own death warrant as they are basically explicitly saying that policy goals are more important than the well being of their constituents. Nowadays with partisanship as bad as it is I still think they would pay an incredibly heavy price, but who knows.

 

[Homerboy]

I'll just leave this right here...

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 47m47 minutes ago
The Senate must go to a 51 vote majority instead of current 60 votes. Even parts of full Repeal need 60. 8 Dems control Senate. Crazy!



Edit: damn it @K1052 beat me to it

 

[senseamp]

If ACA is so bad, why can't the whole Republican party, backed by billions of dollars worth of think tanks, come up with anything better?

 

[senseamp]

I'll just leave this right here...

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 47m47 minutes ago
The Senate must go to a 51 vote majority instead of current 60 votes. Even parts of full Repeal need 60. 8 Dems control Senate. Crazy!
Edit: damn it @K1052 beat me to it

Someone get him an Obamacare paid Waambulance.

 

[Homerboy]

If ACA is so bad, why can't the whole Republican party, backed by billions of dollars worth of think tanks, come up with anything better?

Please, they've only had 9 years to come up with something. It's the Democrats fault for obstructing! Your President says so.

 

[ivwshane]

If ACA is so bad, why can't the whole Republican party, backed by billions of dollars worth of think tanks, come up with anything better?

Because the ACA is the Republican plan.

 

[fskimospy]

After failing to get 51 votes to pass their healthcare bill Trump calls upon Senate to change the rules to make passage only need 51 votes.

This shit can't be made up.

You can't fully repeal the ACA without 60 votes, so in a way he's right.

Think of what he's arguing though, lol. Because we failed to pass a bill that would take insurance from 22 million Americans we should nuke the legislative filibuster so we can take insurance from 32 million Americans.

That sure seems like a good idea. I bet he's thought this through and is not just childishly lashing out because of yet another failure.

 

[Jaskalas]

Donny is on twitter this morning blaming the democrats (and a few republicans) for the failure of the bill. Also embracing his "let Obamacare collapse then the Dems will come begging" rhetoric. He really has no idea how any of this works.

Nope. He has no idea that, as the "party in power", all the consequences fall on them next election. Incumbency is a !@#$.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Assuming the GOP pushes through their "repeal now, replace maybe sometime down the road" bill that will be the absolute final death knell for the ACA. Stability and long-term planning (at least longer term than what Congress does) is critically important to insurers. If they don't know the ACA will be in place a year from now and what provisions it will have then, they will drop out at the first opportunity to legally do so. The GOP will kill all the exchanges. Sadly ACA is doing pretty well in my state, I have a lot of gripes about their inflexible paperwork, obtuse procedures and (still) mediocre website, but with a modicum of constructive input from Congress those can easily be fixed.

The GOP is behaving like someone who borrows your car, drives it for days with the oil light on. Eventually instead of a $2 remedy the engine is destroyed and the GOP's response is "I told you this car was a POS."

The time is ripe for both the GOP and the Dems to splinter and a new party arise from the ashes, one dedicated to pursing what actually works and leaving the hot button issues aside.

Single payer would be great, but at this point we will be lucky to hold onto Medicare & Medicaid.

More like this: *warning there may be language inappropriate for work*


https://www.howardstern.com/show/20...including-not-let-your-kids-drive-speedboats/

Kevin wasn't kidding. He went on to tell several stories about times spent with dear old dad, including the day his dad let a then nine-year-old Kevin take the wheel of a rented speedboat.

"He let me drive a boat. Yeah, I crashed a boat," Kevin said with a laugh. "The level of stupidity that my dad displayed this day was amazing.

Kevin said the boat was on loan from one of his dad's friends. They had spent the day out on the water and Kevin asked if he could drive as they were headed back to shore. He took the controls and floored it.

"My dad kept going 'slow up' and I don't know how to slow up. Slow up? What kid do you know slows up? All we know is fast," Kevin told Howard. Kevin never did "slow up" and he ended up crashing into a rocky shoreline, causing substantial damage to the vessel.

Kevin later said that after boat was wrecked his Dad said to his friend "We gotta figure this out" the friend said "No you gotta figure this out".
Reminds me of repeal and no replace basically blow up the system so it doesn't work then ask the people (Democrats) who said don't do that to help you fix it.
Right now Republican voters are saying "Slow Up" while looking at the approaching shore line.

 

[Jaskalas]

http://sullivanbenefits.net/acas-affordability-contribution-percentage-increased-for-2017/

Reason 101 why this law is a failure

We know it's a failure as it was never paid for. I stand for funding Healthcare, last we checked, you don't.

 

[Sea Ray]

We know it's a failure as it was never paid for. I stand for funding Healthcare, last we checked, you don't.

I'm all for funding a good healthcare law. Last time I checked you were for funding a failure.

 

[senseamp]

Dog ate their 8 year homework. Maybe Ivanka should just copy from Justin T.

 

[K1052]

I am loving that this thing went tits up with no warning while Trump was dining with Senators who really weren't on fence and totally failed to woo the ones that were. Some good strategery there.

 

[Jaskalas]

I'm all for funding a good healthcare law. Last time I checked you were for funding a failure.

Medicare is not a failure, ask the people on it what they'd do without it.
Now take a guess at what I'd replace the ACA with?