GOP ACA Replacement Imminent....Predictions

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Bitek

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Trumpo also took the time to throw all his "allies" in the Senate under the bus for the failure. Also managed to spread blame to Dems, but insisted he "won't own" the failures.

They must hate that MFer.

He will own it.
 

hal2kilo

Lifer
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Trumpo also took the time to throw all his "allies" in the Senate under the bus for the failure. Also managed to spread blame to Dems, but insisted he "won't own" the failures.

They must hate that MFer.

He will own it.
He keeps this up, he better watch his back when he shows up in congress. History might repeat itself.
Et tu Brutus?
 

Geekbabe

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She'll be fine. There's nothing in Obamacare's ten essential benefits that'll affect her.

She won't need any scans, any mammograms? No colonoscopy?
Do you seriously think she will even be insurable under any GOP plan? They will underwrite her out so fast your head will spin!

No insurance for your wife, she can get on a waiting list to join a state sick pool, those cost about 25K a year
 

Jhhnn

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She won't need any scans, any mammograms? No colonoscopy?
Do you seriously think she will even be insurable under any GOP plan? They will underwrite her out so fast your head will spin!

No insurance for your wife, she can get on a waiting list to join a state sick pool, those cost about 25K a year

I already offered a solution, that his premium costs can be capped like those of people who earn less if we're willing to quit white knighting for the Plutocracy. It's not all that many people so we won't have to raise taxes at the top much at all.
 

Moonbeam

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People got a taste of what the right to healthcare might start to look like. I think only tyranny can turn back the clock and while I definitely see that being tried, I don't see it winning and never did on the health care thingi.
 

K1052

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Turtle pushed the vote on the MTP next week, Trump summoned all the GOP senators to WH for lunch tomorrow. I guess he wants to make one last pitch but given the positions many senators have staked out I'm not thinking his hard sell is going to carry this.
 

Moonbeam

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Turtle pushed the vote on the MTP next week, Trump summoned all the GOP senators to WH for lunch tomorrow. I guess he wants to make one last pitch but given the positions many senators have staked out I'm not thinking his hard sell is going to carry this.
Maybe they will go for a single payer system and win for a change.
 

senseamp

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Republican single payer = single over-payer with an unlimited credit card. Like the blank check they wrote for Medicare part D.
 

Sea Ray

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She won't need any scans, any mammograms? No colonoscopy?
Do you seriously think she will even be insurable under any GOP plan? They will underwrite her out so fast your head will spin!

No insurance for your wife, she can get on a waiting list to join a state sick pool, those cost about 25K a year

Scans and mammographies (for her) aren't covered as it is. As for colonoscopies, insurance will pay for that after we meet our deductible. Until then I'll pay for it through my HSA. I know how this works. This is how it was done prior to 2010. It's no big deal.
 

Sea Ray

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I already offered a solution, that his premium costs can be capped like those of people who earn less if we're willing to quit white knighting for the Plutocracy. It's not all that many people so we won't have to raise taxes at the top much at all.

I think you're going down the right road. If a cap is going to be in place, it can't stop at 4x poverty. However there'd have to be something that keeps ins companies from charging as much as they want under such a system too.
 

Jhhnn

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I think you're going down the right road. If a cap is going to be in place, it can't stop at 4x poverty. However there'd have to be something that keeps ins companies from charging as much as they want under such a system too.

The reason it stops at 4x is to slightly reduce the tax burden on our wealthiest citizens.

OTOH, capping it all the way up the income scale is an admission that even people at the 90-95% income level need social welfare benefits.
 

trenchfoot

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Aug 5, 2000
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Trump supporters of the rust belt that got royally punked and skunked by Trump and gave him his margin of victory, your silence is deafening.

You own this, so please tell us what your plans are to force Trump to live up to all of those promises he made to you that he went back on. Please let us know how you intend to make Trump live up to his promise that he will deliver a better, more inclusive, less expensive health care plan than the disastrous death spiraled Obamacare he keeps harping on about.

You were right to vote for Trump and those of us who didn't were all wrong.

So prove it.
 
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I'll say it again. I'm so glad the usual GOP suspects gave Trump the same amount of flip flopping bullshit they gave Obama.
 

snoopy7548

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Trump supporters of the rust belt that got royally punked and skunked by Trump and gave him his margin of victory, your silence is deafening.

You own this, so please tell us what your plans are to force Trump to live up to all of those promises he made to you that he went back on. Please let us know how you intend to make Trump live up to his promise that he will deliver a better, more inclusive, less expensive health care plan than the disastrous death spiraled Obamacare he keeps harping on about.

You were right to vote for Trump and those of us who didn't were all wrong.

So prove it.

The ones who voted for Trump should be able to coherently tell us exactly what Trump plans to do in regards to healthcare, and each of their explanations should match. Otherwise, they're just mindless trolls who voted for... I don't know. Seems like Trump's current promise is to let the current healthcare system fail and not really give a damn. Real winner they picked out.

When you vote for somebody who promises healthcare for everyone and reduced costs, but six months later tells the country he doesn't want a part of it and will just let the current system fail... what the hell is going through your mind to not be disgusted by that pathetic asshole?
 

Jaskalas

Lifer
Jun 23, 2004
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Medicare for all is an option. I don't think most Americans want that. The ones getting their insurance from employers or the gov't, 85%, really don't want a radical change.

The idea that people can magically afford medical care... by just stepping back and watching them (fail) to pay for it...

If they want healthcare there is but one, single, way. The cost will be subsidized. I do not consider that a radical idea, even if it's a radical change from letting people die without care as it is today.
 
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