Sea Bray literally beats the same dead horses over and over. He wants the gubberment to save him, but nobody else.
He's just parroting the same old talking points...I still don't understand why the GOP thinks it's HORRIBLE for so many counties to have only 1 insurer option in the marketplace, but it's fine if they have one (or fewer!) broadband internet providers (oh and if municipalities decide to offer their own broadband we need to pass a law against that!)Literally no objective, empirical analysis agrees with what you just said.
You're making things up to justify your position, which is irrational.
The only thing the ACA was good at was redistributing money to give healthcare to 20M Americans. It did nothing to make healthcare affordable and it's now collapsing upon itself. Many of those 20M will lose their care if insurers don't come back to the individual market
So about that 'skinny repeal' that removes the mandates but basically keeps everything else. This has been tried before and led directly to the collapse of insurance markets:
http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle...n-1993-may-offer-lesson-for-obamacare-repeal/
So despite direct evidence of the effects of what they are trying to pass here, they are trying to pass it anyway. This isn't just stupid, this is insane.
He's just parroting the same old talking points...I still don't understand why the GOP thinks it's HORRIBLE for so many counties to have only 1 insurer option in the marketplace, but it's fine if they have one (or fewer!) broadband internet providers (oh and if municipalities decide to offer their own broadband we need to pass a law against that!)
Nevermind that the same states insurers are fleeing just happen to be the ones where GOP governors refused to expand Medicaid, or states where non-compliant cheap plans were "grandmothered", allowing young healthy people on cheaper non compliant insurance, and allowing them to switch to Obamacare if and when they get sick. Of course, the Trump administration promising to defund subsidies doesn't help either. So that "death spiral" has been a GOP plan from the start.
Pretty much the exact same stable of repubs spent the previous 6-7 years voting unanimously, over and over and over again, to do exactly what they don't want to do right now. You know why? Because they knew that it would never pass. It was all show. Now, they are terrified of the awful, factual consequences of the lies that they have been spewing now that they have the power to do exactly what they promised to do, gaslighted their supporters into voting them to do, and only ever blamed the evil democrats and evil Kenyan non-American Obama in preventing them from doing.
Do you know dishonesty and profound corruption when you see it? Does it not make you sick?
Except that it isn't collapsing upon itself. It is only struggling in republican states where the governors actively restricted its full implementation. You've been gaslighted.
"ACA is collapsing upon itself" is an abject lie. Stop repeating lies.
There's a rumor going around in some circles that if 2015's straight repeal makes it to the floor, some Democrats will strategically vote "yea" in order to pass it up, putting it on the GOP Congress and Trump to actually reconcile and sign it into law. The idea is that this will make Single Payer the primary issue for the 2018 elections (since there is a 2 year wait period for repeal) and put's less pressure on Democrats for insurers leaving Obamacare and subsidies failing in the meantime.
I dunno, sounds like a stupid, risky mistake...and I don't know that we have enough "safe" Democrat senators who can risk the vote?
I live in a state where ACA was fully implemented (Ohio) and it's collapsing. Who's the liar now?
You are, still.I live in a state where ACA was fully implemented (Ohio) and it's collapsing. Who's the liar now?
Yeah, that's an incredibly stupid move. For one, the Democrats at horrible at getting their people elected and fighting against Republican election rigging, two, by repealing now and replacing later it puts the dems in a very vulnerable spot and they will be required to compromise with Republicans in order to pass anything which more than likely means it will be worse than what we have now.
I live in a state where ACA was fully implemented (Ohio) and it's collapsing. Who's the liar now?
In other words, blame the GOP...The company, in explaining what it called "a difficult decision," pointed to continued "volatility" in the individual health plan market, as well as to uncertainty about whether President Donald Trump and the Republican-controlled Congress will continue paying insurers reimbursements for key Obamacare subsidies that reduce low-income customers' out-of-pocket health costs.
The company also blamed the restoration of a tax on insurers.
"An increasing lack of overall predictability simply does not provide a sustainable path forward to provide affordable plan choices for consumers," said Anthem.
"As the Individual marketplace continues to evolve, Anthem will continue to advocate solutions that will stabilize the market to allow us to return to a more robust presence in the future," the company said.
I live in a state where ACA was fully implemented (Ohio) and it's collapsing. Who's the liar now?
Anthem is pulling out because Trump refuses to say if he will be paying out government funding to the insurance companies. The ACA isn't causing the market to collapse in Ohio, Trump is.
They are going to start voting on straight repeal. From all the talk it basically has no chance at passing. It sounds like the option that has the best odds of passing is the so called "skinny repeal".
Too many R votes now cast against the straight repeal amendment for it to pass.
Skinny repeal up next but some of the comments coming from Rs (Lee for example) indicate they have no idea what that is yet.
Lee will be an interesting one on this. Since it doesn't roll back medicaid expansion the moderate Rs are more likely to be ok with the "skinny repeal" so it might fall to the more conservative senators to shoot it down. The Freedom Caucus has already started talking trash about the skinny repeal but they are more of a house problem.
I salute their courage to be hypocritical. Better than voting for a bill that hurts millions of people.7 GOP senators voted against repealing Obamacare
The repeal-only health care bill amendment failed 55-45 just now in the Senate. Here are the Republican senators who voted no:
Six of those seven senators previously voted yes on this repeal-only plan in 2015, which Obama vetoed when it hit his desk.
- Shelley Moore Capito
- John McCain
- Lisa Murkowski
- Susan Collins
- Lamar Alexander
- Rob Portman
- Dean Heller