GOP ACA Replacement Imminent....Predictions

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Blackjack200

Lifer
May 28, 2007
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Lol, I wonder if one bullshit committee hearing and the full 90 seconds of floor debate will satisfy him.

I'm thinking not.

The health of millions of people will depend on the judgment of a man who smells toast if he stands up too fast.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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By the way think just how small what he is asking is. Basically what he’s saying is that Congress needs to make at least a cursory effort at understanding a law before passing it.

That’s it. How pathetic that the GOP has no interest in it.

Repub congress critters understand it well enough to want it because it smells like money... Tax cuts insure the support of their far right donors... They'll worry about selling it to their constituents later.
 

Engineer

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Oct 9, 1999
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I thought any plans to repeal were up in smoke no?
Where's this latest push come from?

The time limit for reconciliation is September 30th. The GOP seem to want to sneak this in between hurricanes right before the deadline and hope that the voting public doesn't notice. Not even going to get a full score from the CBO before the vote.
 

IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
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Arizona Governor Ducey is for the bill. He says he has no idea what the impacts will be for Arizona but that whatever they are, it will be better than the ACA. So much for the argument that governors know what's best for their states.
 
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trenchfoot

Lifer
Aug 5, 2000
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Arizona Governor Ducey is for the bill. He says he has no idea what the impacts will be for Arizona but that whatever they are, it will be better than the ACA. So much for the argument that governors know what's best for their states.

What a pathetic despicable way to sell out his middle class and poor constituency. The GOP heads of state must've really laid into him in order to force McCain to get on board this train wreck in progress.

Too bad most working class Repubs would prefer to give up their own best interests and willingly take the major financial hit they're going to get slammed with from their party leaders in DC should this fake most lied about piece of crap legislation pass into law.
 

obidamnkenobi

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This article is horrifying. These ignorant old fucks are responsible for setting policy for 10's of millions of Americans. NO ONE should be proud of this.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/9/20/16333876/republican-senators-graham-cassidy
"
Pat Roberts
Look, we’re in the back seat of a convertible being driven by Thelma and Louise, and we’re headed toward the canyon. That’s a movie that you’ve probably never seen —"

Well I'm sold. That explains health policy perfectly.. /s
 

obidamnkenobi

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One thing I'm missing form the GOP; we've been told socialzied medicine/single player is horrible and pretty much the worst thing you could impose on someone. So when will the GOP get around to dismantling the horrors that is the VA system? It's government run from end to end! They would let our brave soldiers suffer under such a system when they have the power to stop it?! How could they?! I can't wait until they shut down every VA hospital, fire every doctor and just give veterans a stipend to buy insurance on the open market like the rest of us. #saveusfromVA #singlepayerkills
 

Engineer

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Oct 9, 1999
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One thing I'm missing form the GOP; we've been told socialzied medicine/single player is horrible and pretty much the worst thing you could impose on someone. So when will the GOP get around to dismantling the horrors that is the VA system? It's government run from end to end! They would let our brave soldiers suffer under such a system when they have the power to stop it?! How could they?! I can't wait until they shut down every VA hospital, fire every doctor and just give veterans a stipend to buy insurance on the open market like the rest of us. #saveusfromVA #singlepayerkills

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/the-military/338172-yes-trump-is-privatizing-the-va
 

Thump553

Lifer
Jun 2, 2000
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I'm surprised no one linked Jimmy Kimmel's opening monologue from last night yet (I'm not competent enough to do so). In five or ten minutes he absolutely destroyed any pretense this bill has any benefit other than to cut taxes for the very rich.

if this passes, when it takes effect the economy is going to take a real hit. I don't even have to look at the bill to know that any effective dates that cause damage will be after the next election.

This is political malpractice and malfeasance.
 
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Everyone pay attention they (R's) consistently talk about coverage being available to everyone, they don't talk about everyone having coverage.
The pricing part is never spoken about.
So yes the guy who has had 3 heart attacks may not be denied coverage but that coverage may cost $16k per month.
They haven't started this yet but they will, a 60% reduction in cost for a 20 year old and a 30% increase for a 55 year old DO NOT EQUAL A 30% reduction.
One guy saves $60 per month the other guy pays $125 more per month. That is not a savings.
 
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snoopy7548

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Everyone pay attention they (R's) consistently talk about coverage being available to everyone, they don't talk about everyone having coverage.
The pricing part is never spoken about.
So yes the guy who has had 3 heart attacks may not be denied coverage but that coverage may cost $16k per month.

Coverage* will be available** to everyone***!

*Coverage not guaranteed
**Annual premiums determined as percentage**** of your salary if you're making less than $150k/year; fixed cost of $5000/year over $150k/year
***In select states
****51%
 
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Jaskalas

Lifer
Jun 23, 2004
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http://wapo.st/2fArlaL?tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.dd3d21792bcb

They literally do not care what it does, at all.

Republican Senator Accidentally Reveals the Toxic Truth Behind the GOP's Latest Health Bill
You know, I could maybe give you 10 reasons why this bill shouldn’t be considered. But Republicans campaigned on this so often that you have a responsibility to carry out what you said in the campaign. That’s pretty much as much of a reason as the substance of the bill.

^ OMG, he pretty much says it should NOT pass but that they're too impotent to do anything else.
 
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