If there's no room to see what we have in common, then how can there be hope of resolving our differences through discourse? You are right that words are not the only way of resolving conflict. If discourse is not possible, then conflict can be resolved through violence. By violence I don't necessarily mean physical violence. I mean that one perspective ends up being declared the winner and decided as correct without modification and the other perspective must be declared the loser and rejected as bad with no potential for merit.
A violent resolution to conflict is not wrong per se. It may end up being very productive, leaving us with organizing principles that lead to more effective behavior and are open for discourse. If this situation is destined for a violent resolution, then there is no doubt I choose the side of the left. But my wish is for the capacity to engage in productive discourse instead. I'm honestly not sure how realistic that is or whether we are at the point where accelerating a violent resolution to this conflict would be best.
As someone noted above, I'm waiting for the "murder is good" argument. There is no bothsides to all topics.It seems neither their forum nor this one is allows collaborate discourse between people with different points of view on this topic. I don't foresee any real progress on racial tension in the US unless that platform can be established.
If there's no room to see what we have in common, then how can there be hope of resolving our differences through discourse? You are right that words are not the only way of resolving conflict. If discourse is not possible, then conflict can be resolved through violence. By violence I don't necessarily mean physical violence. I mean that one perspective ends up being declared the winner and decided as correct without modification and the other perspective must be declared the loser and rejected as bad with no potential for merit.
A violent resolution to conflict is not wrong per se. It may end up being very productive, leaving us with organizing principles that lead to more effective behavior and are open for discourse. If this situation is destined for a violent resolution, then there is no doubt I choose the side of the left. But my wish is for the capacity to engage in productive discourse instead. I'm honestly not sure how realistic that is or whether we are at the point where accelerating a violent resolution to this conflict would be best.
who have their kids stolen and then later raped and killed by Trump's henchmen?
drama queen much?
She came to present an opposing viewpoint than the one being talked about and obviously was picked because she’s a (hot) person of color.
Completely agree with her. For several years now the left has stoked racial tensions and used race as a scare tactic to energize their base. The right fed off this to scare and energize their own base.
The dems do the exact same thing every few years with reparations. When it looks like the black vote might drop below 80% democrat they start up the "we'll pay you if you vote for us" program.
Well he's right in that neither this, nor any other forum I know of, really leads to any constructive debate/discussion of this or any other politically-divisive topic, among people who strongly disagree. But then I don't know if one can really expect any solutions to come from constructive debate and discussions anyway. Not at all sure that's really how things change in any case, historically-speaking.
I can't even get a useful discussion going with people I personally know well with whom I have much smaller political differences than these. We just end up not speaking to each other.
Words are hugely over-rated. I mean, Trump can barely form coherent sentences and he's gotten all the way to the Whitehouse.
Of course. If one side says their side they are valiant warriors helping the oppressed and downtrodden.
If the other side says thei---- SHUT UP RACIST WHITEY! YOU'RE RACIST SEXIST KKK MEMBER!
So what do you think the end result will be? Especially when you have stupid lefties that perceive all white people are privileged and can ask daddy for money at any point. Meanwhile, white people are still the largest pool of the poor. But hey - at least they have their white privilege amirite?
The picture/meme you have there is accurate. If that guy were black he'd already have been shot by police.
Of course. If one side says their side they are valiant warriors helping the oppressed and downtrodden.
If the other side says thei---- SHUT UP RACIST WHITEY! YOU'RE RACIST SEXIST KKK MEMBER!
So what do you think the end result will be? Especially when you have stupid lefties that perceive all white people are privileged and can ask daddy for money at any point. Meanwhile, white people are still the largest pool of the poor. But hey - at least they have their white privilege amirite?
Of course. If one side says their side they are valiant warriors helping the oppressed and downtrodden.
If the other side says thei---- SHUT UP RACIST WHITEY! YOU'RE RACIST SEXIST KKK MEMBER!
So what do you think the end result will be? Especially when you have stupid lefties that perceive all white people are privileged and can ask daddy for money at any point. Meanwhile, white people are still the largest pool of the poor. But hey - at least they have their white privilege amirite?
But if they didn't do that, how else are they supposed to de-rail the topic?
Your slip is showing again.
The fact that we haven't succeeded yet is not sufficient evidence that we may never succeed. Nor is it sufficient evidence that we will eventually succeed. All I can say is that I personally am not giving up hope.
Not sure why people don't have UC on ignore. Nothing but a shill meatpuppet. Boring. Predictable. Works for derp. Gets paid in derp...
The picture/meme you have there is accurate. If that guy were black he'd already have been shot by police.
How can you possibly have what you describe above as "violent resolution" in any democracy? You can win elections, but the voters who back the "losing" view are still there and still voting. And historically, it seesaws back and forth. There's only one way to "win" permanently, and that is to change the other side.
As an Indy I can without party bias say that both the left and the right have quite a bit of discrimination going on right now. As I typically lean left I find myself constantly being bounced back to center at all the frightening statements and generalizations the left makes. The right has just never been an option for me so you would think it would be easy, but it is a constant shot in the foot for some reason.If the left are the racists, why is EVERY FUCKING RACIST IN THE US a rabid Trump/GOP supporter?
I'll attempt a little more accuracy. Not all righties are racist but if you find a racist IMO 80-90% chance they are Trump supporter or RepublicanAs an Indy I can without party bias say that both the left and the right have quite a bit of discrimination going on right now. As I typically lean left I find myself constantly being bounced back to center at all the frightening statements and generalizations the left makes. The right has just never been an option for me so you would think it would be easy, but it is a constant shot in the foot for some reason.