GOP Convention omnibus Thread:9-2-04 Bush taking Center Stage

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dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne

I really think he needs to be a little more negative and really show the American people that things aren't as rosy as the Republicans are making them out to be.

He ALSO needs to give us a clear plan of what he wants to do differently.

I think many will agree that he just hasn't closed the deal yet.

Having to go negative just shows how low the U.S. has gone

Since Americans are so easily brainwashed into seeing the World through the Neocons Rose Colored Glasses then we deserve to go the road to ruin.

It is clear that the Dub's plan is a total failure unless you are a brainwashed Hannity & Rush drone so I disagree that Kerry or anyone opposed to Bush must show a "clear path", the dub sure hasn't.

He shouldn't have to "close any deal", the Country should be clamoring to get out of the disasterous "contract" of Bush & his minions deal.
 

OneOfTheseDays

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne

I really think he needs to be a little more negative and really show the American people that things aren't as rosy as the Republicans are making them out to be.

He ALSO needs to give us a clear plan of what he wants to do differently.

I think many will agree that he just hasn't closed the deal yet.

Having to go negative just shows how low the U.S. has gone

Since Americans are so easily brainwashed into seeing the World through the Neocons Rose Colored Glasses then we deserve to go the road to ruin.

It is clear that the Dub's plan is a total failure unless you are a brainwashed Hannity & Rush drone so I disagree that Kerry or anyone opposed to Bush must show a "clear path", the dub sure hasn't.

He shouldn't have to "close any deal", the Country should be clamoring to get out of the disasterous "contract" of Bush & his minions deal.


Dave if the rest of America thought like you, me, and many others on this board then I wouldn't have said what I said. I'm being realistic here. If he wants to win this election, he's gonna have to take the low road because frankly most Americans are stupid and can't see past the total bullsh!t that politics is.
 

conjur

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Ari Fleischer is doing his job to brainwash the young at the Republican Youth Convention at MSG.

Fleischer called Saddam the greatest threat to the United States.



wow.
 

Ldir

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Originally posted by: burnedout
Originally posted by: KK
More peaceful protests

N.Y. Police Brace for Anti-GOP Protests
At least 900 arrested. . . .

You must be proud. Entrapping peaceful demonstrators. More suppression of free speech.
Protesters and civil liberties lawyers expressed concerns over what they said had been unfair and overzealous tactics in dealing with demonstrators who may not have had permits but were not violent.

"It's an example of the police suckering the protesters," said Donna Lieberman, executive director of the New York Civil Liberties Union, referring to the arrest of some 200 protesters who said they thought they were abiding by an agreement they had negotiated with the police as they marched from ground zero on Fulton Street.

"It was a bait-and-switch tactic," she added, "where they approved a demonstration and the protesters kept up their end of the bargain. They undermined people's confidence in the police, and that's a serious problem as we go forward."

Indeed, the turning point appeared to come as several hundred protesters with the War Resisters League tried to begin a march up Fulton Street that organizers had negotiated with police, although they did not have a permit.

Ed Hedemann, one of the organizers, said their understanding was that if they stayed on the sidewalk and did not block foot traffic or vehicles, they could proceed toward Madison Square Garden.

But within minutes, the protesters were confronted by a line of police officers who told demonstrators they were blocking the sidewalk and would be arrested, although they did not appear to be blocking pedestrian traffic at that point.

A commanding officer, telling the crowd of about 200 "you're all under arrest," ordered other officers to bring the "prison van" and the "orange netting" with which to enmesh the protesters.

"We don't know why we are being arrested, we were just crossing the street," said Lambert Rochfort, who was among the protesters. "We were told if we don't do anything illegal we would be allowed to march on the sidewalk and we did just that. Then they arrested us for no apparent reason."

People coming off the subways were thrown to the ground
Innocent bystanders were also caught up in the maelstrom.





 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne

Dave if the rest of America thought like you, me, and many others on this board then I wouldn't have said what I said. I'm being realistic here. If he wants to win this election, he's gonna have to take the low road because frankly most Americans are stupid and can't see past the total bullsh!t that politics is.

To a point I agree, only in that he must respond to Negative Ads the Liar's Campaign puts out. I don't believe that the Kerry Campaign should go on the Offensive in creating Negative Ads against Bush because Bush has done and continuing to hurt himself since he cannot stand on anything positive.
 

dmcowen674

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I have to go to the Office at midnight (most work on live switches have to be done overnight) so I'm turning in to get a few hours sleep because I have to get to the airport around 10 am to fly back to New Orleans for the Labor Day Weekend.

Speaking of back in New Orleans, I could've gone to get a Bill Clinton Book with his autograph today back where I live but I am 700 miles away:

Former President Bill Clinton will be appearing at 3 p.m. today at Barnes & Noble, 3721 Veterans Memorial Blvd. in Metairie. Clinton will be signing copies of his autobiography "My Life". Doors open at 11:00 a.m.

Oh well, I miss out on posting a thread like CAD.
 

Ozoned

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Michael Moore's seating arrangement at the RNC

Michael and me
By SHMULEY BOTEACH


Who says that God doesn't have a sense of humor? My regular readers will remember that at the Democratic National Convention, I found myself sitting a few feet from filmmaker Michael Moore. I had been eager to talk with Moore about his positions on Israel, since I had read several negative comments attributed to him. I tried to speak with him, but he turned me away.

But last night at the Republican National Convention, I was working on my laptop from one of the press desks when a Secret Service agent suddenly walked in and told me that the empty seat next to me would now have an occupant. A moment later Michael Moore sat down beside me. He was there to write a column on the convention for USA Today. I shook his hand, welcomed him, and asked him if he was feeling comfortable surrounded by Republicans. He told me that everyone had been friendly and kind to him since his arrival.

A moment later, he was swarmed by the press, until it became such a distraction that they were whisked away by the Secret Service. Suddenly, it was me and him alone, again, this time cordoned off by a Secret Service perimeter, and I had my chance. I leaned over. "Mr. Moore, you were quoted in the New York Times as saying that you place Israel in your own private axis of evil. It was very painful for Jews to read that. Do you stand by the quote?"

"No, I don't," he said. "That quote was taken completely out of context. I believe strongly in Israel's security and Israel's right to defend itself."

"Well, Mr. Moore," I said, "the impression, sadly, is that you're an anti-Semite. That's a shame. However much you and I disagree on the major issues, you shouldn't come across as a Jew-hater. Joe Scarborough even asked me on his MSNBC show whether or not I believed you were an anti-Semite. That's the impression you've been giving. I trust that you are not a Jew-hater. Indeed, I bet you don't consider yourself any kind of hater. So why give that impression?"

He told me, "Of course I'm not a hater, and you would be surprised at just how little you and I disagree on all the issues, and on the Israel issue in particular. I really want to correct that because I am not an enemy of Israel. I should really sit down and do an interview just about this because I want it corrected."

"You know," I said, "there are people who want you to visit Israel so you can see the situation there for yourself."

"I like Israel," he said. "I've visited twice, the first time during the first intifada," he said.

"Well, then you'll know that Israelis are victims, too, and that they have suffered terribly under terrorism. But Jews have the impression that you don't identify with Israeli suffering, that you forget that the Jews have suffered horrific oppression. And that's a shame because it undermines the morality of your message."

He then said something that I did not expect: "I regard the Jewish people as the most oppressed people on earth."

"Then it's important that that be known. Look, Mr. Moore," I said. "I am a political conservative, so I am certainly not on the same page as you. I was deeply critical of your most recent film [Fahrenheit 9/11]. But Bowling for Columbine, your previous film, was important because it brought to light how Americans have incarcerated themselves in a prison of their own making, in a cage of fear. I greatly praised that aspect of your film in my upcoming book on the same subject, Face Your Fear. But you damage yourself and limit your audience by giving the impression that you are a hater of a people who have suffered so greatly."

He said, "After I made Bowling for Columbine, I discovered that Israel has one of the lowest levels of violence ? I mean, besides the conflict with the Palestinians ? even though there are so many guns around."

Moore and I agreed to a future formal sit-down interview, just as our conversation was interrupted by John McCain, the featured speaker of the evening, whose speech included a sharp attack on Michael Moore as "a disingenuous filmmaker" who grossly distorted Saddam's Iraq as "an oasis of peace." The entire crowd got up, turned around, looked directly at Moore, booing and shouting, "Four more years. Four more years." Even Dick Cheney, sitting across the hall, was pointing at Moore. The boos were so deafening that McCain decided to repeat the line. Moore, laughing nervously, started chanting, "Not four more years. Only two more months."

But only I heard him.

Michael Moore had earned those boos. Amid the many distortions of Fahrenheit 9/11, the most offensive of all was his whitewashing of Saddam's butchery and the portrayal of life under Saddam as something akin to living in Disneyland.

When the booing died down, I leaned over and asked Moore whether he was ashamed or offended. "Nah, I take it all in good humor," he said. "These people are Americans, just like me. They love this country, just like I do. I bet that if we all sat down together, we'd discover just how much we agree on all the issues."

He might think so, but it's unlikely that defending a tyrant is something that anyone sitting in that hall would agree on with Michael Moore.

Throughout the conversation, I went out of my way to be polite and respectful because I wanted to show the difference between people like me who support President Bush out of principle and conviction but believe profoundly in showing human decency to opponents, and the many who support John Kerry simply because they hate President Bush and liken him to Adolf Hitler.

Moore, too, was extremely friendly. He said to me, "It's important that people know that I don't have horns and a tail." Agreed. But that doesn't excuse him for defending and validating mass murderers who behave as though they certainly do.



 

conjur

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Jesus H. Fvckin' Christ...

Do these people know no level of decorum?

Now we have Michael Reagan politicizing the death of his father.

This is utterly pathetic!
 

conjur

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Now a video tribute to Reagan.

Paraphrasing:

"Reagan gave us optomism"

Hmm...and Bush gave us a divided nation and a nation looked upon with scorn by the rest of the world.

I can see the resemblence. :roll:
 

conjur

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More lies from the Mass. Lt. Gov.

Kerry voted 126 times against tax cuts.

Kerry is the most liberal Senator.


<yawn>


Lie...repeat...repeat...repeat....
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: conjur
More lies from the Mass. Lt. Gov.

Kerry voted 126 times against tax cuts.

Kerry is the most liberal Senator.


<yawn>


Lie...repeat...repeat...repeat....

dude you're not even getting it right, and it was just on tv. wtf?
 

conjur

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What isn't right about what Lt. Gov. Healey said?

That's what she said. She said John Kerry voted against tax cuts 126 times. She said Kerry is the most liberal Senator.


Both of those are lies.


BTW, has there been one musical act that wasn't a Christian Rock or Christian Country band??
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: conjur
What isn't right about what Lt. Gov. Healey said?

That's what she said. She said John Kerry voted against tax cuts 126 times. She said Kerry is the most liberal Senator.


Both of those are lies.


BTW, has there been one musical act that wasn't a Christian Rock or Christian Country band??

oh i thoguth you were derisively calling romney lt. nm.
 

conjur

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No. Why would I do that? The Lt. Gov was speaking and I was commenting on her lies.
 

conjur

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Wow.

Miller is on some serious medication!

He's jumped right into the den of thieves by supporting Bush and his failed administration. And the hatred coming out of his mouth is astounding.

Comparing Iraq to WWII and Korea??


wow.
 

OneOfTheseDays

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Please, I'd be ashamed to have the flip-flopping ZigZag Zell keynoting my party's convention. To claim that the Democratic party left him is a freaking joke, the guy's only doing this to promote his book and make himself money. You Republicans can certainly have him.
 

Cobalt

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Zell Miller's speech is pretty powerful, watching it now. He is really hammering Kerry.
 
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