You can't acknowledge what you pretend you didn't see.
His bubble is safely intact. Crisis averted!
@brandonbull is a bitch. He wont put up.
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This level of stupidity bothers me. I can’t let it go.
@brandonbull below is a video of the President asking for help from Russia.
Please back your statement up and show me (I’ll make it easy) ANY Democrat candidate for President asking directly for help from ANY country other than America.
like i said, paper ballots that i either drop in the mail or at a very secure drop box is a great system. guess im lucky to live in a county that has their shit together.
For those that are super keen on paper ballots, wasn't there some fuckery in Florida or Georgia in 2018 (or 2016) where there were legitimate allegations and the Republican governor flat out refused an audit and nothing happened?
Maybe, but I thought that one was someone going door to door to collect ballots and then throwing away the ones that voted Democrat. I seem to remember some place down there that had paper ballots, there were allegations of fraud, and the governor (I think, maybe even the court) either refused an audit or said sorry too late the ballots have been destroyed (or both).I believe that was Georgia in 2018 and the falsifying of mail-in ballots by the GOP in a certain county.
Maybe, but I thought that one was someone going door to door to collect ballots and then throwing away the ones that voted Democrat. I seem to remember some place down there that had paper ballots, there were allegations of fraud, and the governor (I think, maybe even the court) either refused an audit or said sorry too late the ballots have been destroyed (or both).
"It is incredibly troubling," said David Becker, a former Justice Department voting-rights lawyer. "These counties haven't even finished counting ballots. This is all about winning and nothing about fraud, but it comes at the cost of delegitimizing our own democracy."
Yeah, so the moral of the story is that paper ballots don't guarantee shit.Oh yeah Florida with the ballot boxes full of fraudulent ballots from normally solid Democratic Counties, thank you for making me remember that story. The piece of shit that was running the election is now the Governor due to stealing the election.
Oh yeah Florida with the ballot boxes full of fraudulent ballots from normally solid Democratic Counties, thank you for making me remember that story. The piece of shit that was running the election is now the Governor due to stealing the election.
The point is to have paper ballot receipts that can be checked against the electronic talley.Yeah, so the moral of the story is that paper ballots don't guarantee shit.
Yeah, so the moral of the story is that paper ballots don't guarantee shit.
Yes, I back this. I don't think there is any reason we can't have online voting through a web portal. Everyone gets a voter ID number that only they know, and then a searchable database where you can put in your ID number and verify that your votes are correct in the system. If you want to print out a confirmation page because you love paper, you can do that too.The point is to have paper ballot receipts that can be checked against the electronic talley.
Yes, I back this. I don't think there is any reason we can't have online voting through a web portal. Everyone gets a voter ID number that only they know, and then a searchable database where you can put in your ID number and verify that your votes are correct in the system. If you want to print out a confirmation page because you love paper, you can do that too.
You show a lack of experience with determined self reflection. Anybody who attempts to seriously deal with his or her own tendencies to self deceive comes to recognize a common first steps along that path will be the throwing up and grasping of false analogies. By means of those the unwilling mind can erect a barrier behind which to hide its unwillingness to probe deeper and with truer honesty. The vernacular term neuroscientists have coined for this phenomenon, peer reviewed to be factually applicable more to conservatives than liberals, describing this form of rationalization is “low level thinking”.So you don't think there would be opposition to going back to only paper ballots? Hey, lets go back 56k modems, cassette/vhs tapes, tube TVs while we're at it.
The point is to have paper ballot receipts that can be checked against the electronic talley.
You show a lack of experience with determined self reflection. Anybody who attempts to seriously deal with his or her own tendencies to self deceive comes to recognize a common first steps along that path will be the throwing up and grasping of false analogies. By means of those the unwilling mind can erect a barrier behind which to hide its unwillingness to probe deeper and with truer honesty. The vernacular term neuroscientists have coined for this phenomenon, peer reviewed to be factually applicable more to conservatives than liberals, describing this form of rationalization is “low level thinking”.
As with all forms of thought where the intention is blindness, the goal is to be blind to our dishonesty. And, as long as that motivation remains hidden, it works. That is why when it comes to the politics of power, driven by the fear of insignificance and worthlessness, the lusts of the ego will always outweigh the love of truth.
I don't know if security would even be an issue. When you register for voter ID number you give an email or phone number and choose your preferred method of notification for when votes are cast with your ID. If you weren't the one who voted, you can reject it as invalid (maybe someone got your voter ID and password) or approve it if it is valid and matches what you voted for. If approved, the choices are locked for that voter ID and you get a digital confirmation of your choices (which you can print! yay paper!). The information is stored until all races are declared final. Before that point anyone can log in to the DB with read only access to verify their choices have not been changed, especially in tight races where every vote counts. If you find your digital or printed receipt is different than the info in the live DB you can report it and after validation of your identity and the receipt, the values can be changed by an authorized admin to match the receipt (and perhaps a department is set up specifically to investigate all such discrepancies). The federal gobberment should own the infrastructure with each state having their own areas where they are responsible for configuring the choices for each election. Within those state areas are further subdivisions for their local elections, which each local government is responsible to configure.So the election committee or whatever I assume federal board knows whom you voted for? How long will voting data be stored? Whom controls access to that data?
Who runs the board to establish security standard?
Who decides if a “do over” is merited because some voter ids were compromised
What is my printed report says something different?
If someone can change the above incorrect vote whom will it be, who decides when to change an inaccurate vote?
What happens if the web portal is unavailable all Election Day?
What company hosts the website?
Does that company control access to the website?
What if the website is marked as unsafe or insecure by google or Apple or microsoft or any other browser.
Will the website appear the same on every, single device that accesses it.
I stand by what Massachusetts does is nearly perfect and very secure. Paper ballot to fill in a box or bubble or complete a line, this goes into a secure scanner that someone sits next to. The scanner keeps the paper portion in a locked box, the scanner is not networked in anyway.
Fast, cheap, easy to understand reliable technology
Internet voting sounds great until you get into all the nuts and bolts stuff.
I don't know if security would even be an issue. When you register for voter ID number you give an email or phone number and choose your preferred method of notification for when votes are cast with your ID. If you weren't the one who voted, you can reject it as invalid (maybe someone got your voter ID and password) or approve it if it is valid and matches what you voted for. If approved, the choices are locked for that voter ID and you get a digital confirmation of your choices (which you can print! yay paper!). The information is stored until all races are declared final. Before that point anyone can log in to the DB with read only access to verify their choices have not been changed, especially in tight races where every vote counts. If you find your digital or printed receipt is different than the info in the live DB you can report it and after validation of your identity and the receipt, the values can be changed by an authorized admin to match the receipt (and perhaps a department is set up specifically to investigate all such discrepancies). The federal gobberment should own the infrastructure with each state having their own areas where they are responsible for configuring the choices for each election. Within those state areas are further subdivisions for their local elections, which each local government is responsible to configure.
Vote on your phone, home computer, from the shitter, or your library. Set up some temporary terminals at the places that used to be polling stations for anyone that doesn't have internet access or just likes to go to a polling station because they like traditions or whatever.
Please identify the gaps in this system. How and where could it be hacked?
I don't know if security would even be an issue. When you register for voter ID number you give an email or phone number and choose your preferred method of notification for when votes are cast with your ID. If you weren't the one who voted, you can reject it as invalid (maybe someone got your voter ID and password) or approve it if it is valid and matches what you voted for. If approved, the choices are locked for that voter ID and you get a digital confirmation of your choices (which you can print! yay paper!). The information is stored until all races are declared final. Before that point anyone can log in to the DB with read only access to verify their choices have not been changed, especially in tight races where every vote counts. If you find your digital or printed receipt is different than the info in the live DB you can report it and after validation of your identity and the receipt, the values can be changed by an authorized admin to match the receipt (and perhaps a department is set up specifically to investigate all such discrepancies). The federal gobberment should own the infrastructure with each state having their own areas where they are responsible for configuring the choices for each election. Within those state areas are further subdivisions for their local elections, which each local government is responsible to configure.
Vote on your phone, home computer, from the shitter, or your library. Set up some temporary terminals at the places that used to be polling stations for anyone that doesn't have internet access or just likes to go to a polling station because they like traditions or whatever.
Please identify the gaps in this system. How and where could it be hacked?