Got a speeding ticket today...ugh

LostHiWay

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First off I'm of the opinion if you get a speeding ticket you shouldn't try to weasel out of it and just take it as a lesson learned. However....

I was coming back home from a relatives house and got clocked going 40 in a 35. Most cops will give you 5mph but mine didn't...oh well my loss.

However the price for the infraction is $520 dollars!!!!! WTF!!! $100 - $150 I can see but $520!!! This town is robbing me! At least I wasn't doing 50...it would be over $800 then.

I know not much I can do but I just had to vent. What stops them from upping the fine to $1000? $2000???
 
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Not a surprise. In times of tight budgets, instead of raising taxes, local governments just raise fines and use fees.
 

DingDingDao

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What a load of bullshit. Sorry man, that sucks.

Had to get that in there before everyone else comes in here on their high horse screaming at you to pay the fine, you broke the law, blah blah blah
 

Homerboy

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wait $520 for 5mph over? LOLOh my lord that sucks
WHere do you live so I make sure to never, ever drive there.
 

KeithTalent

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Wow, I'm totally against speeding, but $520 is absurd for 5MPH over.

KT
 

GagHalfrunt

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However the price for the infraction is $520 dollars!!!!! WTF!!! $100 - $150 I can see but $520!!! This town is robbing me!

That's why you didn't get the benefit of the doubt over the 5mph. The only jurisdictions that write tickets like that are the ones desperate for cash, so they're going to jack up the fine to the max state law will allow.
 

dainthomas

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Wow no self-righteous "break the law, accept the consequences" posts yet? I'm shocked!
 

Adrenaline

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Get an attorney if you want and contest the ticket. I got a ticket for 5 mph once, went to court and plead not guilty. It was dismissed with no costs.
 

BoomerD

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Even though I'm as much a "Traffic Nazi" as I am a Grammar Nazi, that seems a bit excessive...

Kahleeforneeya, in an attempt to avoid actually raising traffic fines, has slapped a bunch of "fees" on to traffic citations. The end result is that traffic tickets cost more without having to actually go through the long administrative process of raising each violation.

Something like 95% of the money collected stays with the state...the local counties and towns only get a sliver. Many local towns have been bypassing the state by issuing local administrative violations instead of the normal traffic citation.
The city keeps ALL the money from the citation...and the fine is usually about 1/2 of what the fine would otherwise be...and it doesn't get reported to your insurance company...

Of course, the state has finally gotten wise to this ruse...and recently has been discussing a law to prevent that...

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/california-cities-skirt-law-with-administrative-speeding-tickets/

edit...finally found the info about the state trying to change this

http://www.modbee.com/2010/08/31/1318769/bill-may-put-the-brakes-on-local.html


Bill may put the brakes on local traffic tickets
Lucrative for cities but uneven in enforcement
By Kevin Valine

A bill is heading to the governor's desk that would stop Riverbank, Newman and a handful of other California cities from issuing their own tickets for minor traffic violations.

The practice has been a boon for drivers and cities.

Drivers are ticketed for a lower amount, the Department of Motor Vehicles isn't notified, and the city keeps all of the money — instead of getting a fraction back from the state under a standard ticket.
A bill is heading to the governor's desk that would stop Riverbank, Newman and a handful of other California cities from issuing their own tickets for minor traffic violations.

State Sen. Jenny Oropeza's bill would put the brakes on this.

Oropeza, D-Long Beach, said the practice leads to uneven enforcement of traffic laws and confusion and distrust among drivers.

She said insurance companies don't learn about the tickets because the DMV is not notified, so they get incomplete information when they set premiums, giving bad drivers an undeserved break and making good drivers pay more.

The practice also puts federal highway funding at risk, Oropeza said, because the state doesn't have complete information on moving violations, which are among the data used to calculate federal funding.

Riverbank and Newman officials defended the policy, saying it is for motorists with good driving records who commit minor offenses, such as driving 31 mph in a 25 mph zone.

"This is just another case of the state not recognizing local police powers," Newman City Manager Michael Holland said. "This lets us give law-abiding citizens a slap on the wrist. If you are a frequent customer of the DMV and court system, you are not eligible."

Cities can issue administrative tickets only to drivers who violate posted signs, such as speed limits, stop signs, and right of way and yield signs. They cannot issue tickets for reckless driving, driving under the influence or running red lights.

Riverbank and Newman have been issuing their own tickets for about a year. The cities say about a third of the tickets have been issued based on their codes, with the rest issued under the state vehicle code. Both cities let drivers appeal tickets issued under city codes.

The administrative tickets are much cheaper than a ticket issued under the vehicle code. For instance, it costs a driver $100 in Riverbank and $150 in Newman for rolling through a stop sign. The same offense costs more than $220 under a standard ticket.

These tickets also bring in money for the cities when budgets are tight because of the recession and what some cities have called state raids on their budgets.

Riverbank expects to collect $80,000 annually from the administrative tickets, Newman about $45,000.

"It's another example of Sacramento taking cities' money," Riverbank City Manager Rich Holmer said. "The cities saw an opportunity to make money and once again the state is preventing cities from doing that."

Other jurisdictions issuing their own tickets include Roseville, Long Beach, Oakland and Berkeley.

Oropeza's bill, Senate Bill 949, has passed in the Assembly and state Senate and should be on Gov. Schwarzenegger's desk this week.

A spokeswoman for the governor said Tuesday that he has not yet taken a position on the bill. If he does not sign or veto the bill by Sept. 30, it will become law without his signature.

If the bill becomes a law, it would not take effect until July 2011 to give cities time to adjust to losing the ticket revenue, Oropeza's office said.
 
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Mo0o

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Make sure to call the court house to see if you can get a fine reduction or deferral so it wont get on your insurrance
 

Vette73

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What state and city?

Also if that is the max fine then get your monies worth. Ask for a trial by jury and drag it out.
 

ChaoZ

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$520 for 5mph over is ridiculous. You definitely need to contest that.
 

gigahertz20

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There is no way you got fined $520 for 5mph over, you are either lying about the whole thing or you were going way faster then 5mph over.

If you aren't lying, then fuckkkk man you got raped. Didn't you confront the cop about the ticket? I would have asked why the ridiculous fine and told him I would fight it in court even if it cost more then the ticket. If the cop was a different ethnicity then me, I would claim racism in court. If you are black and the cop is white, you have a good chance of getting out of it. Pull the race card, trust me.

 
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pcgeek11

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If the cop was a different ethnicity then me, I would claim racism in court. If you are black and the cop is white, you have a good chance of getting out of it. Pull the race card, trust me.

That sums up what is wrong with this country. Stupid!

I would go to court and the fine will most likely be reduced or tossed out. The race card is just an assholes way, unless it is totally fact.
 

Jeff7

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Bill may put the brakes on local traffic tickets

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Anyone else get an urge to injure a random journalist when reading stuff like this?

"I wonder how long until that bill gets the ...... green light?"


Geez, 5mph over? I think the laws in PA don't even start issuing fines until you're at least 5mph over. They've got to be really desperate there.



That's why you didn't get the benefit of the doubt over the 5mph. The only jurisdictions that write tickets like that are the ones desperate for cash, so they're going to jack up the fine to the max state law will allow.
And then the solution is of course to amend the law to allow for higher fines.
 

gigahertz20

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That sums up what is wrong with this country. Stupid!

I would go to court and the fine will most likely be reduced or tossed out. The race card is just an assholes way, unless it is totally fact.


I'm not saying pull the race card right away, if you're in court and it sounds like they are not going to reduce it or some other crap comes up, I would pull the race card. Why the fuck not? If they are going to scam me and try to make me pay $520 for 5mph over....I will say whatever the hell I can to get out of paying that much.
 

jpeyton

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Take it to court. Make them earn their money.
 

boomhower

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In most states you have to pay court costs unless you are found not guilty in court.

But damn 5MPS pver. I won't even stop a car for less than ten.
 
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