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AMCRambler

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Ridiculously rare yet slimy ambulance chasers seem to think not so rare that they have a bunch of cases potentially out there.
 

Drako

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It's amazing to me how many people are on medications today.

I'm an older guy - in my 50's and just started taking blood pressure and cholesterol medications. I've never been prescribed medications until this year. I know people with kids in their preteens on more drugs than I'm on.
 

ThinClient

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It's amazing to me how many people are on medications today.

I'm an older guy - in my 50's and just started taking blood pressure and cholesterol medications. I've never been prescribed medications until this year. I know people with kids in their preteens on more drugs than I'm on.

Right, because nobody could possibly legitimately need medications as a preteen.
 

Agent11

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I think many people would rather a diagnoses and medication to resolve them of any responsibility rather than address the fundamental issues that cause behavioral problems these days. . . Some problems such as depression and add/adhd are highly over diagnosed. You think there was a plague of such problems that went untreated to the detriment of society before there was a marketable medication for these issues?
 

ThinClient

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I think many people would rather a diagnoses and medication to resolve them of any responsibility rather than address the fundamental issues that cause behavioral problems these days. . . I think some problems such as depression and add/adhd are highly over diagnosed.

That used to be the case, but our understanding of all three of the disorders you mentioned has VASTLY improved since the 90's when it was seemingly diagnosed by default.

Diagnosis is quite a bit more accurate these days. You might think it's out of control, but the reality of it is that you're simply seeing it in the news more often.

Not everyone has this "responsibility" bullshit problem that you think everyone has. Drugs work for most people. That's why they're still prescribed. That's the profound fact that most people who share your opinion seem to forget.
 

Agent11

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I have seen it first hand. Close relatives who have problems in their families being diagnosed and given medication when the root of their problem is that their family doesn't respect their individuality or their opinion on how they want to live their lives. . . Or their opinion on much else, and do not want to invest the time or effort in trying; they act out and are medicated in an attempt to preserve harmony in the family. This is insulting on a fundamental level to the individual in question and as a result their behavior worsens.

It just reinforces the opinion of the people who made the easy out decision in the first place, and the result is a feed back loop that destroys lives.
 
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ThinClient

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Your one or two relatives do not the entire population make.

Your situation happens, too. Crafting a blanket statement from a tiny pinhole view of the larger picture is not a rational conclusion.
 

AMCRambler

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Except today it seems like you got one problem but they prescribe a goddamn cocktail of pills to sort it out. One pill for the psychosis another to fix the diarrhea the first pill causes and another to keep you from growing tits. But has anyone tested that combination of meds to ensure you won't grow a third nipple or digest your own stomach taking them all together? Seems modern medicine is more about throwing pills at shit and seeing how many it takes to "balance" you out.

I see it more with the psychiatric profession than anything else. General practitioners still seem to have their shit together. The designer drug market for mental issues on the other hand seem out of control to me. They advertise the new best thing for treatment on television, radio, the internet, etc. This should be our first clue that it's about making money and not about treating your illness. The primary treatment is the drug companies wallets, the side effect is any real world benefit you may see.

Would love to see some independent placebo test results with sugar pills vs these purported wonder drugs. Maybe I'm a cynic but I know people on these medications and they don't seem to ever get better. More like dependent. Big tobacco figured that one out quick. Seems big pharmaceutical has it nailed now too. Sickening.
 

ThinClient

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Your point of view is not rational or based on any real medical education. The entire process is MUCH more complex than you're making it out to be and nobody just throws pills at the patient.

What, exactly, do you know about the psychiatric profession? The simple clue that you think people should suddenly stop taking antipsyches says a LOT about your level of education on the matter.

I really hope nobody's taking your point of view seriously. They'd be doing themselves a disservice.
 

GoodRevrnd

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Wait a minute... does this make lady boobs bigger? Cuz if there's a medication that makes womens' boobs bigger AND it's an anti-psychotic... what wondrous times we live in.
 

Agent11

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There are people who need psychiatric medications of course, I would say they are the minority of people taking them however.

Wait a minute... does this make lady boobs bigger? Cuz if there's a medication that makes womens' boobs bigger AND it's an anti-psychotic... what wondrous times we live in.

Psssst, don't let the feminists hear you say that. . . Although if you could combine it with a muscle relaxant for cramps it may be an easier sell.
 
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ThinClient

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Would love to see some independent placebo test results with sugar pills vs these purported wonder drugs. Maybe I'm a cynic but I know people on these medications and they don't seem to ever get better. More like dependent. Big tobacco figured that one out quick. Seems big pharmaceutical has it nailed now too. Sickening.

All drugs that get presented to the FDA go through rat trials, double blind clinical trials, etc.

You're basically demanding something that has already occurred.
 

AMCRambler

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Your point of view is not rational or based on any real medical education. The entire process is MUCH more complex than you're making it out to be and nobody just throws pills at the patient.

What, exactly, do you know about the psychiatric profession? The simple clue that you think people should suddenly stop taking antipsyches says a LOT about your level of education on the matter.

I really hope nobody's taking your point of view seriously. They'd be doing themselves a disservice.

And how many pills are in your current life affirming cocktail good sir? How long have you been on them? How many times have you swapped out one because you saw a new one pop on your tv and it would solve all your problems with only a "slight" chance of stroke or death?

You claim I'm ignorant of the process and that it's very complex but offer nothing to back your claims. If I couldn't walk into the docs office tomorrow and tell him about some new drug I saw on TV and have them prescribe it, big pharma wouldn't bother advertising this junk to the general populace. It's capitalism at its finest.

A good doctor will try and set your expectations, tell you there's risks and talk you out of gulping down the latest cure to market. Do I think that's the majority of them out there? Maybe 20 years ago. Not anymore. I bet if I walked into a psychiatrist' s office tomorrow, told them I'm stressed at work and feeling overwhelmed I'd walk out with a prescription for something. News flash "Work is stressful and at times can be overwhelming!" Soon we'll all be well medicated obedient zombies though.
 

uclaLabrat

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Except today it seems like you got one problem but they prescribe a goddamn cocktail of pills to sort it out. One pill for the psychosis another to fix the diarrhea the first pill causes and another to keep you from growing tits. But has anyone tested that combination of meds to ensure you won't grow a third nipple or digest your own stomach taking them all together? Seems modern medicine is more about throwing pills at shit and seeing how many it takes to "balance" you out.

I see it more with the psychiatric profession than anything else. General practitioners still seem to have their shit together. The designer drug market for mental issues on the other hand seem out of control to me. They advertise the new best thing for treatment on television, radio, the internet, etc. This should be our first clue that it's about making money and not about treating your illness. The primary treatment is the drug companies wallets, the side effect is any real world benefit you may see.

Would love to see some independent placebo test results with sugar pills vs these purported wonder drugs. Maybe I'm a cynic but I know people on these medications and they don't seem to ever get better. More like dependent. Big tobacco figured that one out quick. Seems big pharmaceutical has it nailed now too. Sickening.
If only they had those for every drug that was ever approved...oh wait, they're called clinical trials, they take 8-12 years to complete, and they cost anywhere from $500 million to $1.2 billion for each drug approved...strange I tell ya!
 

AMCRambler

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If only they had those for every drug that was ever approved...oh wait, they're called clinical trials, they take 8-12 years to complete, and they cost anywhere from $500 million to $1.2 billion for each drug approved...strange I tell ya!

Tell that to the poor psychotic kid with titties. I'll see your clinical drug trials and raise you the list of side effects associated with this drug.

http://www.rxlist.com/risperdal-side-effects-drug-center.htm

Read all that. Then get to the bottom 2 days later where it talks about "Post marketing experience". Meaning things people suffered from that they didn't figure out before selling it and prescribing it.

No thank you. I'd rather be psychotic.

Maybe I already am? Ha ha ho ho hee hee
 
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