Got Gas? U.S. Economy to Worsen as Gas Prices Skyrocket

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bamacre

Lifer
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can someone prove to me that it's not excessive wealth hedging against inflation that's driving the costs up so much?

My friend and I debated last night, his reasoning was that the Quantitative Easing the Fed has done has driven the worth of the dollar down which is pushing the cost of buying goods (gas, anything we can export) on the global market more relative to other currencies. IE 1 [other currency] buys 1 [quantity] of [thing] and the dollar used to buy 1 [other currency] but now only buys 0.8 [other currency] so you have to spending $1.25 to buy the same amount that 1 [other currency] gets you.

It is. QE is actually pushing inflation higher overseas than here, anyone with a dollar-backed currency. China is getting hit hard, and they've been big buyers of gold and silver.
 

RockinZ28

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Argh...have to go fill up today. Gasbuddy says $4.39 is the cheapest 91 oct from a quality station.
 

Doppel

Lifer
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No way, it's only $2 according to the P&N experts
Troll much?

Everybody here except dmcowen seems to be able to use <city>gasprices.com whereas you just pull numbers out of air and then curse at people for calling you out on it.

 

MustISO

Lifer
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$5 gas in DC yesterday. Unfortunately for the station owner they couldn't get the pumps to charge more than $5.00 due to a software glitch.
 

mizzou

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Goes to show you that the current prices are purely speculative in nature.

yep, nobody but speculators say it's a demand issue

supply is there, and we aren't even close to eating it all up


I feel like we are going to 5 gallon gas just for the lulz


oh, SO glad I still have my 30MPG 4 cycl beater! Truck has sat idled and lonely for a few months now
 
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Imp

Lifer
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yep, nobody but speculators say it's a demand issue

supply is there, and we aren't even close to eating it all up


I feel like we are going to 5 gallon gas just for the lulz


oh, SO glad I still have my 30MPG 4 cycl beater! Truck has sat idled and lonely for a few months now

From everything I've read, Libya is still pumping at least 40% of their regular capacity (something's gotta pay for the guns), US demand is actually declining slightly (a few %) due to prices, and yet the cost of oil keeps rising. The funniest thing is that oil stocks like XOM and SU are holding steady at pre-Libya levels (~Egypt uprising levels).
 

blackangst1

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From everything I've read, Libya is still pumping at least 40&#37; of their regular capacity (something's gotta pay for the guns), US demand is actually declining slightly (a few %) due to prices, and yet the cost of oil keeps rising. The funniest thing is that oil stocks like XOM and SU are holding steady at pre-Libya levels (~Egypt uprising levels).

And, according to the CIA fact site, Libya is 18th of top 20 oil producers, producing only about 7% of the oil supply. They really arent a big player.
 

Imp

Lifer
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And, according to the CIA fact site, Libya is 18th of top 20 oil producers, producing only about 7% of the oil supply. They really arent a big player.

And I think they're 2% of US oil.

There's talk that "investors" are pricing in the possibility of furhter unrest in the Middle-East that may spread to the countries that matter: Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, etc. But by looking at what's going down in Syria and Bahrain and how the entire world is standing idly by, who actually thinks that will happen anymore?
 

Doppel

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And, according to the CIA fact site, Libya is 18th of top 20 oil producers, producing only about 7% of the oil supply. They really arent a big player.
They normally make 2M/day I think, total world supply 80 something.

Speculators can price in middle east unrest, successful economy, or the unicorn armies finally organizing and falling upon DC, who really knows.
 

dmcowen674

No Lifer
Oct 13, 1999
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From everything I've read, Libya is still pumping at least 40% of their regular capacity (something's gotta pay for the guns), US demand is actually declining slightly (a few %) due to prices, and yet the cost of oil keeps rising.

The funniest thing is that oil stocks like XOM and SU are holding steady at pre-Libya levels (~Egypt uprising levels).

Those oil inventories continue to be at 20+ year highs, with actually no where to store the oil since all the depot tanks are full.

Yet I continue to get PM's and E-mails that there is a supply problem that we are out oil by many idiots. Hence my Avatar
 

dmcowen674

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Here is an article featuring the AVERAGE for the AVERAGE idiots in here

I can't find any stations around where I live below $4.39 as shown in the picture in the article.


4-17-2011

http://www.myfoxchicago.com/dpp/new...s-gasoline-price-four-dollars-gallon-20110417

Chicago Average Gas Price Hits $4.20

Chicago's average gas price hit $4.20 a gallon on Sunday

On Sunday, the Empire State became the sixth state to top $4 for the average price of a gallon of gas, joining Alaska, California, Connecticut, Hawaii and Illinois, according to AAA's Daily Fuel Gauge. The average price of gas also rose to more than $4 per gallon in Washington, D.C., on Saturday.


The next states to join the list could be Michigan, which has gas for $3.95 per gallon on average, and Indiana, where the average price is $3.94. Nevada, Washington and Wisconsin are close behind.


Hawaii has the highest price in the U.S. at $4.48 per gallon. Wyoming has the lowest, at $3.54.


The national average for gas has increased for 26 straight days, and is now at $3.83 per gallon. That's up 29 cents from a month ago.



Retail surveys suggest motorists are reacting to higher prices now by buying less fuel. Still, the government expects pump prices to keep climbing this summer as vacationers take to the highways.


For American drivers, the $4 mark harkens back to the summer of 2008, when oil rose to $147 per barrel and gas prices topped out at $4.11 per gallon before the economy went into a tailspin.
 

dmcowen674

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4-17-2011

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/bank_in_the_tank_7ADWlz6Qo41CTsViqiKn4M?CMP=OTC-rss&FEEDNAME=

Gas close to a gallin' $5 a gallon

One station in Manhattan's Meatpacking District is just 35 cents below the wallet-shocking $5-per-gallon threshold

PUMP JUMP: Ron Stanley, up from South Carolina, fills up at the Mobil station at 10th Avenue and 14th Street on the West Side of Manhattan, where prices ranged from $4.65 to $4.89 a gallon.
 
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