Got my 4th DUI last night

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alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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Sorry, I must have missed it... who here argued that DUI doesn't kill?

My argument is that the enforcement of the law in this case was excessive and selective, which has the effect of diluting the strength of the law.

And keep in mind, while drunk driving is a problem, less than half of all traffic fatalities are alcohol-related, and those that are not alcohol-related are rarely 'accidents,' but the direct result of someone's negligence. IOW, the same people who would wish the death penalty on the guy sleeping it off in his car are probably the same ones who think nothing of texting while driving, even though studies have proven conclusively that the level of impairment is the same.

edit: and don't even get me started on the large number of people on the road whose driving ability/skill even while sober is scarcely better than a drunk to begin with.

QFT DUI law is one people want out of fear and not applied to themselves.

I got caught up in a DUI by an ex-g/f having some cop buddy wait for me at our apartment (we were breaking up the next day, I had left to give her time to herself).

I had a fucking beer tab for 4 to 6 beers from about 6pm to 2am when I was stopped.

They said I blew a .168.

I just paid the fucking thing out, $6,000. Never had any issues with insurance or credit, however; most cannot just pay it out and most become unemployed since they can't drive for 3 months.
 
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No, I never have, asshole. When did you quit fucking your mother?

Seriously, is this the best you got? DUI is not a crime of intent.

OOOOOH, SO YOU START CRYING ABOUT PERSONAL ATTACKS, AND THEN YOU SAY THAT? You're a piece of work....and probably a drunk.
 

Saint Nick

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I'm not a big fan of law enforcement, but I won't derail this thread with my mindless banter.

However, it is good you are keeping a very dangerous person off of the road. So, glad you're doing your duty! Just don't bust the kids smoking pot in their basement, please. They are harmless
 

Modelworks

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Feb 22, 2007
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yes, but not drive drunk.

There is a big difference and that is more subjective than objective.

The problem is how are you going to decide when you are drunk ? I think they are far too lenient with existing laws. I would be for a second offense gets you a suspended license. You had the first offense to learn it wasn't something you should do.
 
Feb 19, 2001
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How does my BAC get influenced if I get Asian glow?

The most I've driven with is 1 beer (otherwise it's a DD). And it's never drink and then go straight to the car. It's usually wait at least an hour and drink plenty of water and make sure I feel fine before I drive. I realize I'm following the unwritten rule of a drink an hour, but I somehow feel Asian glow might enhance my BAC pushing me beyond 0.08%? Dunno. Probably not because I don't feel drunk or anything, but I just want to make sure. The last time my friend who got glow after 1 drink went up to a cop and asked him if he was ok to drive. The guy did a quick test and said he was ~0.03. So based on that I feel like I should be ok, but who knows? I'm still shit scared everytime I need to drive.
 

MotF Bane

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Dec 22, 2006
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The more you try to defend yourself, the more pathetic you are. The fact still remains, it is your 4th DUI, your a druggie and an alcoholic, the police don't believe you, we don't believe you, and neither will the judge. Your arguments are nothing more than the ramblings of an addict trying to justify poor choices and crappy behavior.

hahaha, you're an idiot.

You think it is funny that you drive drunk and WILL kill either yourself or someone else!

andddd so are you.
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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The problem is how are you going to decide when you are drunk ? I think they are far too lenient with existing laws. I would be for a second offense gets you a suspended license. You had the first offense to learn it wasn't something you should do.

You live in fear. Sorry.

I was able to say my alphabet backwards and do my 'test' while on the middle lines of a pretty busy road while the officer stayed off on the side.

I was thinking a lawsuit, but the way the law works is if you fight it (at least in Florida) your driving privledge is removed until a verdict. Figure about 12 - 18 months.

It appeals to people like yourself that do not understand it.

A blood test would be far more accurate and should be required to BACK UP a breathalyzer.

I failed my test so high do to busting my lower lip open. Any blood in the mouth (which can be common) will skew the test majorly. I weighed about 200lbs at the time, even if I drank 12 over 8 hours I shouldn't have been at .168. I had half that.
 

thegimp03

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Jul 5, 2004
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QFT DUI law is one people want out of fear and not applied to themselves.

I got caught up in a DUI by an ex-g/f having some cop buddy wait for me at our apartment (we were breaking up the next day, I had left to give her time to herself).

I had a fucking beer tab for 4 to 6 beers from about 6pm to 2am when I was stopped.

They said I blew a .168.

I just paid the fucking thing out, $6,000. Never had any issues with insurance or credit, however; most cannot just pay it out and most become unemployed since they can't drive for 3 months.

Are you serious? What a fucking psycho bitch.

And a $6,000? Holy shit. My buddy got a DUI one night I rode with him back from a bar. His fine was $1,600. I think he'd blown only a .12 BAC.
 

jlee

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Sep 12, 2001
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I posted the statistics before. It's not a lot of deaths in comparision, also not every DUI death was even contributable to the drinking...

you've been fooled into believing it though. There are 100's arrested almost everywhere each weekend for a DUI, no of those have usually or will even kill another on the road.

At $5,000-10k a pop it's a great system

That $5-10k mostly goes in the lawyer's pockets, btw. I have no financial incentive for busting a DUI, if that's what you were trying to say.
 

Modelworks

Lifer
Feb 22, 2007
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You live in fear. Sorry.

Your right I live in fear. Friday I lost a uncle and my aunt is in a coma after some dumb ass drunk ran a stop sign. So yeah, if you get 1 DUI I think the next time you get caught they should suspend your license.

Why is it so hard not to drink before driving ? Are they so addicted to alcohol they just have to have a drink before they go anywhere ? There is no need for someone who has been drinking to be driving. Would people be okay with their surgeon just having one beer before the operation ? Maybe we could get some alcoholic doctors to do operations on DUI drivers.
 

aircooled

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My lawyer fees were about $3,000. About $2,000 for a state mandated in-car breathalyzer/ignition lock. 30 state mandated group counseling clases @ $50 each ($1500). Plus court fees and probation fees, etc. totaled about $8000, plus years of high insurance payments.
 

JohnCU

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Dec 9, 2000
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My lawyer fees were about $3,000. About $2,000 for a state mandated in-car breathalyzer/ignition lock. 30 state mandated group counseling clases @ $50 each ($1500). Plus court fees and probation fees, etc. totaled about $8000, plus years of high insurance payments.

you evil devil. you should be hung and castrated.:hmm:
 
Apr 17, 2003
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As far as the facts of the case goes, I hope the DA exercises some discretion and hits the guy with a wet reckless or something along those lines. I don't think a standard deuce is called for here.
 
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