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RGN

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Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: RGN
Originally posted by: human2k
Those are some low Unreal scores for a $400+ card, my $160 Radeon 9500 is just shy of your scores (155/52).

As a 9700 Pro? If so then duh...

I think what he meant to say, what exactly did you get for $400?

I got a card designed by a company that believes in driver development. I still don't trust ATi and their driver development. I want a rock solid system, and Intel and nVidia have proven to me time and time again to be able to provide that. I also don't think that comparing a 9500 flashed to a 9700pro to a FX is an appropriate comparision. One can go out of his way to get a flashable 9500 and still not have a guarantee. A 9700pro is $299 today, not $150.

I know/knew that the FX 5800 Ultra would be on par with the 9700 pro, but I didn't want a 9700. It is on par, and the price (up till last week) was the same.

My question is, what does a 9700Pro give me that the FX doesn't?


 

John

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Originally posted by: RGN

My question is, what does a 9700Pro give me that the FX doesn't?

[*]more money in your pocket
[*]a quiet environment
[*]animusic demo
 

NFS4

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My question is, what does a 9700Pro give me that the FX doesn't?

Superior FSAA/Aniso performance/quality (NVIDIA's poor Aniso quality on the NV30 series is well documented here)
$100+ in your wallet
(1) PCI slot
(1) Less trip to the ear doctor

 

Thor86

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Originally posted by: RGN
The card is heavy, mostly due to the large copper heat-pipe heatsink on the top and the big copper plate on the bottom.

There is no noise unless a 3d app is running, then it is quite loud. I'll be looking into aftermarket cooling.

No regrets!!!

Sorry, but that just sounds like a contradiction.

<-------- 9700 owner.

Congrats on the card BTW!
 

TheWart

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Originally posted by: NFS4
My question is, what does a 9700Pro give me that the FX doesn't?

Superior FSAA/Aniso performance/quality (NVIDIA's poor Aniso quality on the NV30 series is well documented here)
$100+ in your wallet
(1) PCI slot
(1) Less trip to the ear doctor


You have not gamed until you game with AA and AF, trust me.

 

NFS4

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Originally posted by: TheWart
Originally posted by: NFS4
My question is, what does a 9700Pro give me that the FX doesn't?

Superior FSAA/Aniso performance/quality (NVIDIA's poor Aniso quality on the NV30 series is well documented here)
$100+ in your wallet
(1) PCI slot
(1) Less trip to the ear doctor


You have not gamed until you game with AA and AF, trust me.

That's the only way to go I run 4x FSAA and 8x Aniso Quality on ALL of my games.
 

RGN

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Originally posted by: NFS4
My question is, what does a 9700Pro give me that the FX doesn't?

Superior FSAA/Aniso performance/quality (NVIDIA's poor Aniso quality on the NV30 series is well documented here)
$100+ in your wallet
(1) PCI slot
(1) Less trip to the ear doctor

all non issues for me. I prefer real drivers.
 

NFS4

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Originally posted by: RGN
Originally posted by: NFS4
My question is, what does a 9700Pro give me that the FX doesn't?

Superior FSAA/Aniso performance/quality (NVIDIA's poor Aniso quality on the NV30 series is well documented here)
$100+ in your wallet
(1) PCI slot
(1) Less trip to the ear doctor

all non issues for me. I prefer real drivers.

FSAA/Aniso performance a NON-ISSUE on a $400 video card?? Phew, first I've heard of that Also, I wish I had $100 to burn
 

galperi1

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Originally posted by: RGN

My question is, what does a 9700Pro give me that the FX doesn't?

24 bit precision rather than 16 bit hacked to make it perform on par with a Radeon even though the Image Quality has been reduced.
 

RGN

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Originally posted by: Budman
Originally posted by: Reliant
How are ATI drivers not real?

Hey let the guy be,putting down ATI drivers is the only way he can justify his purchase.

Yeah, its all good. I've owned enough of both companies cards to not care what you guys think. I came to gloat anyway!
 

Rectalfier

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You should have saved your money for the Matrox Paraliea. It would have been a better waste of your money.
 

vetteguy

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Is that a Zalman cooler you have on your P4? I've been toying with trying one of those but haven't gotten the nerve. How is that rear fan attached? Is that a Dell case?
 

mrman3k

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You know what is funny, you have a Zalman heatsink, and then you have an FX.

I would definetly like an FX if I could get the Ultra cheap. I actually like the look of the cooler. Worst case is I replace it with a quiet after market cooler.

Have fun!
 

WyteWatt

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Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: TheWart
Originally posted by: NFS4
My question is, what does a 9700Pro give me that the FX doesn't?

Superior FSAA/Aniso performance/quality (NVIDIA's poor Aniso quality on the NV30 series is well documented here)
$100+ in your wallet
(1) PCI slot
(1) Less trip to the ear doctor


You have not gamed until you game with AA and AF, trust me.

That's the only way to go I run 4x FSAA and 8x Aniso Quality on ALL of my games.


NFS4 what resolution on all and detail settings on all games please? Thanks.


 

chizow

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Originally posted by: imtim83

NFS4 what resolution on all and detail settings on all games please? Thanks.
Resolution varies by game I'm sure, as there are plenty of games that are significantly slower with 4x. I tend not to go above 2x AA, just enough to lose the jaggies at 1280. 16x quality AF improves the image quality more overall and has less of a performance hit than 4x AA and 8x AF. Too bad nVidia couldn't implement 3Dfx's AA quality into their FX chips.

Chiz
 

RGN

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Originally posted by: vetteguy
Is that a Zalman cooler you have on your P4? I've been toying with trying one of those but haven't gotten the nerve. How is that rear fan attached? Is that a Dell case?

Yes, Zaleman cooler, its performance is better than the stock Intell Boxed HSF. My 2.0A at 2.4 is 2C cooler with it even with teh fan turned all the way down.

No not a Dell case, its an Evercase. Newegg has them here. You will see the fan bracket if you click the link.

I've built a couple of thousand PC's over the last 10 years, and its one of the best cases I've ever seen.
 

RGN

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Originally posted by: mrman3k
You know what is funny, you have a Zalman heatsink, and then you have an FX.

I would definetly like an FX if I could get the Ultra cheap. I actually like the look of the cooler. Worst case is I replace it with a quiet after market cooler.

Have fun!

When not 3d accelerating the FX is nearly silent. The system is not any louder with it until I start a game. Then its like hold your ears.
 

NFS4

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Originally posted by: imtim83
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: TheWart
Originally posted by: NFS4
My question is, what does a 9700Pro give me that the FX doesn't?

Superior FSAA/Aniso performance/quality (NVIDIA's poor Aniso quality on the NV30 series is well documented here)
$100+ in your wallet
(1) PCI slot
(1) Less trip to the ear doctor


You have not gamed until you game with AA and AF, trust me.

That's the only way to go I run 4x FSAA and 8x Aniso Quality on ALL of my games.


NFS4 what resolution on all and detail settings on all games please? Thanks.

1280x1024 on my 18.1" LCD
 

Viper96720

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Does it have a way to check your gpu temperature? Can you use a potentiometer to slow the fan down? If I ever had one that is what I wanted to do.
 

WyteWatt

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NFS4 even on unreal 2003, GTA 3, unreal 2, etc ? If you don't play any of those games then what games do you play?
 

m1ke101

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Originally posted by: sharkeeper
That cooler WILL drive you INSANE, trust me. It's only a matter of time. Cheers!

you can't be serious! Is that really a fx? That thing sounds like a turbine engine! And this coming from a guy with 3 smart fans and couple other pretty loud fans in my case.
 

SOSTrooper

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Nice card, but please tie the cables in your case up. They're more disturbing than Requiem For A Dream
 
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