Got my car Dyno'd yesterday......

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DaTT

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Originally posted by: drnickriviera
Does that say 8% humidity? Are you in the middle of the desert or something?

Yes, because they have so many dyno's in the desert.
 

MasterAndCommander

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Originally posted by: DaTT
Originally posted by: MasterAndCommander
Originally posted by: DaTT
Originally posted by: MasterAndCommander
Nice numbers Datt...not suprised at all that Ford under-rated the GT's output considering the outcry from Cobra owners many years when they came up short on the dyno. We all know that Honda and Toyota have been honest with their HP/TQ ratings lately, right?

Wasn't that a simple intake manifold replacement to correct the problem....at Ford's expense of course.

Yes it was the '99 Cobra - All of the cars received a new intake manifold, catback exhaust, and computer calibration to produce the as-advertised 320 hp. I think somehow we benefitted from that in our '05's

What mods do you have planned? So far, I've only added the FRPP/Borla axle backs and a strut tower brace. I have a cold-air kit on back order and still deciding on which computer tuner to get...I'm leaning towards the Diablosport Predator.

I'm looking at some Flowmaster Mufflers (Delta 40 maybe), Steeda pulley's, CAI (not sure which one yet) and I will probably go with the SCT Excalibrator 2 tuner. If my SO would let me, I would go for the CDC Shaker Intake.


I looked at the CDC Shaker kit as well - very nice, but pricey at $795 since they don't include a hood and you have to cut out your own opening. :|

Have you seen this shaker kit
from Fang Performance? I like this one better - has the old school look of the Boss 302's and 429's and late 60's Mach 1's.

I'm thinking about just getting a Roush hood scoop and then cutting a few holes to make it functional - but I need to find a way to direct that air to the new cold-air intake - I may just wait until someone makes a fiberglass hood that has the scoop ducted to intake.
 

CraigRT

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Originally posted by: DaTT
Originally posted by: deadlyapp
dyno, i probably dyno 280-290 at the wheels, awhp.

dyno sheet please......or be like the SRT-4 owner that claims stock RWHP is greater than BHP

Well when the car came out, it was rated at 230, but I've personally seen friends cars dyno slightly over 230 @ the wheels.. so it's not uncommon. They underrated the car like crazy. That's why it can run a high 13 stock.
 

DaTT

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Originally posted by: MasterAndCommander
Originally posted by: DaTT
Originally posted by: MasterAndCommander
Originally posted by: DaTT
Originally posted by: MasterAndCommander
Nice numbers Datt...not suprised at all that Ford under-rated the GT's output considering the outcry from Cobra owners many years when they came up short on the dyno. We all know that Honda and Toyota have been honest with their HP/TQ ratings lately, right?

Wasn't that a simple intake manifold replacement to correct the problem....at Ford's expense of course.

Yes it was the '99 Cobra - All of the cars received a new intake manifold, catback exhaust, and computer calibration to produce the as-advertised 320 hp. I think somehow we benefitted from that in our '05's

What mods do you have planned? So far, I've only added the FRPP/Borla axle backs and a strut tower brace. I have a cold-air kit on back order and still deciding on which computer tuner to get...I'm leaning towards the Diablosport Predator.

I'm looking at some Flowmaster Mufflers (Delta 40 maybe), Steeda pulley's, CAI (not sure which one yet) and I will probably go with the SCT Excalibrator 2 tuner. If my SO would let me, I would go for the CDC Shaker Intake.


I looked at the CDC Shaker kit as well - very nice, but pricey at $795 since they don't include a hood and you have to cut out your own opening. :|

Have you seen this shaker kit
from Fang Performance? I like this one better - has the old school look of the Boss 302's and 429's and late 60's Mach 1's.

I'm thinking about just getting a Roush hood scoop and then cutting a few holes to make it functional - but I need to find a way to direct that air to the new cold-air intake - I may just wait until someone makes a fiberglass hood that has the scoop ducted to intake.

I haven't seen that shaker kit before, I may have to look into that a little further. Thanks.
 

RGUN

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I wonder if that guy in the ML350 was impressed by your 270+hp when he smoked your ass , I know I was when all 50hp of my ride beat you.

Looking forward to see what you have planned for the spring.

-Rob G
 

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Originally posted by: RGUN
I wonder if that guy in the ML350 was impressed by your 270+hp when he smoked your ass , I know I was when all 50hp of my ride beat you.

Looking forward to see what you have planned for the spring.

-Rob G

First off, the ML350 guy, I had the car for like a week and downshifted into the wrong gear, but caught up to him shortly thereafter....as for you and your 50hp ride that weighs like 200lbs....you never smoked me, nor did you win....I recall seeing your headlight in my mirror.

Spring will be fun.
 

RGUN

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Originally posted by: DaTT
Originally posted by: RGUN
I wonder if that guy in the ML350 was impressed by your 270+hp when he smoked your ass , I know I was when all 50hp of my ride beat you.

Looking forward to see what you have planned for the spring.

-Rob G

First off, the ML350 guy, I had the car for like a week and downshifted into the wrong gear, but caught up to him shortly thereafter....as for you and your 50hp ride that weighs like 200lbs....you never smoked me, nor did you win....I recall seeing your headlight in my mirror.

Spring will be fun.

Thats what happens when you take off with no warning... and I do recall trying to get you to line up at the next lights and you decided to turn instead? That was the only time I didnt beat you, but then again I didnt expect you to give'er without warning.

 

DaTT

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Originally posted by: RGUN
Originally posted by: DaTT
Originally posted by: RGUN
I wonder if that guy in the ML350 was impressed by your 270+hp when he smoked your ass , I know I was when all 50hp of my ride beat you.

Looking forward to see what you have planned for the spring.

-Rob G

First off, the ML350 guy, I had the car for like a week and downshifted into the wrong gear, but caught up to him shortly thereafter....as for you and your 50hp ride that weighs like 200lbs....you never smoked me, nor did you win....I recall seeing your headlight in my mirror.

Spring will be fun.

Thats what happens when you take off with no warning... and I do recall trying to get you to line up at the next lights and you decided to turn instead? That was the only time I didnt beat you, but then again I didnt expect you to give'er without warning.

Always be prepared, young one, always.
 

RGUN

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Originally posted by: DaTT
Originally posted by: RGUN
Originally posted by: DaTT
Originally posted by: RGUN
I wonder if that guy in the ML350 was impressed by your 270+hp when he smoked your ass , I know I was when all 50hp of my ride beat you.

Looking forward to see what you have planned for the spring.

-Rob G

First off, the ML350 guy, I had the car for like a week and downshifted into the wrong gear, but caught up to him shortly thereafter....as for you and your 50hp ride that weighs like 200lbs....you never smoked me, nor did you win....I recall seeing your headlight in my mirror.

Spring will be fun.

Thats what happens when you take off with no warning... and I do recall trying to get you to line up at the next lights and you decided to turn instead? That was the only time I didnt beat you, but then again I didnt expect you to give'er without warning.

Always be prepared, young one, always.

Remember when that stone hit your windshield? yeah you didnt look to prepared then... That was hilarious

 

RiDE

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Originally posted by: DaTT
Originally posted by: RGUN
Originally posted by: DaTT
Originally posted by: RGUN
I wonder if that guy in the ML350 was impressed by your 270+hp when he smoked your ass , I know I was when all 50hp of my ride beat you.

Looking forward to see what you have planned for the spring.

-Rob G

First off, the ML350 guy, I had the car for like a week and downshifted into the wrong gear, but caught up to him shortly thereafter....as for you and your 50hp ride that weighs like 200lbs....you never smoked me, nor did you win....I recall seeing your headlight in my mirror.

Spring will be fun.

Thats what happens when you take off with no warning... and I do recall trying to get you to line up at the next lights and you decided to turn instead? That was the only time I didnt beat you, but then again I didnt expect you to give'er without warning.

Always be prepared, young one, always.

uhhhhhhhh huh.
 

DaTT

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Originally posted by: RiDE
Originally posted by: DaTT
Originally posted by: RGUN
Originally posted by: DaTT
Originally posted by: RGUN
I wonder if that guy in the ML350 was impressed by your 270+hp when he smoked your ass , I know I was when all 50hp of my ride beat you.

Looking forward to see what you have planned for the spring.

-Rob G

First off, the ML350 guy, I had the car for like a week and downshifted into the wrong gear, but caught up to him shortly thereafter....as for you and your 50hp ride that weighs like 200lbs....you never smoked me, nor did you win....I recall seeing your headlight in my mirror.

Spring will be fun.

Thats what happens when you take off with no warning... and I do recall trying to get you to line up at the next lights and you decided to turn instead? That was the only time I didnt beat you, but then again I didnt expect you to give'er without warning.

Always be prepared, young one, always.

uhhhhhhhh huh.

quit posting.
 

exdeath

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Now you just need some Crower cams, Bassani exhaust, and a Kenne Bell blower. A forged rotating assembly with 8.0:1 compression would be even better

The demons whisper "doooo eeeeeet"
 

Apex

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Originally posted by: DaTT
Originally posted by: Apex
Depending on the type of dyno, at ~300hp, even variations of 30-40hp are not uncommon.

It was a Dynojet. 30-40 HP variations seem a little much for a meager 300hp

Dyno Comparison

That's almost 30hp variance on a 350z, which is about 50hp down from you, and these are all calibrated dynos. 30-40hp is very common, especially among dynos that are not regularly tuned.
 

DaTT

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Originally posted by: Apex
Originally posted by: DaTT
Originally posted by: Apex
Depending on the type of dyno, at ~300hp, even variations of 30-40hp are not uncommon.

It was a Dynojet. 30-40 HP variations seem a little much for a meager 300hp

Dyno Comparison

That's almost 30hp variance on a 350z, which is about 50hp down from you, and these are all calibrated dynos. 30-40hp is very common, especially among dynos that are not regularly tuned.

Seems interesting.
 

cbehnken

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Originally posted by: DaTT
Originally posted by: andylawcc
speaking of which, how do they Dyno 4WD cars? jack up the front so it's spinning in the air?

I actually asked the guy that...he said, if he can, he pulls one of the drive shafts out.

Are you insane? You will toast the center diff in a few seconds doing this.

Ever seen an AWD car? They ALWAYS say "Must be towed on flatbed, do not tow by 2 wheels".

This is because there is a limited slip component designed to keep the front and rear tires turning approximately the same speed. If you have a limited slip center diff it will burn up instantly trying to transfer power to wheels that aren't hooked up. If you don't have a limited slip the unhooked drive shaft will be the only drive shaft received any power as an open diff spins the end with LESS traction.


 

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Originally posted by: cbehnken
Originally posted by: DaTT
Originally posted by: andylawcc
speaking of which, how do they Dyno 4WD cars? jack up the front so it's spinning in the air?

I actually asked the guy that...he said, if he can, he pulls one of the drive shafts out.

Are you insane? You will toast the center diff in a few seconds doing this.

Ever seen an AWD car? They ALWAYS say "Must be towed on flatbed, do not tow by 2 wheels".

This is because there is a limited slip component designed to keep the front and rear tires turning approximately the same speed. If you have a limited slip center diff it will burn up instantly trying to transfer power to wheels that aren't hooked up. If you don't have a limited slip the unhooked drive shaft will be the only drive shaft received any power as an open diff spins the end with LESS traction.

That's with AWD cars, not 4WD.
 

cbehnken

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Originally posted by: Apex
Originally posted by: cbehnken
Originally posted by: DaTT
Originally posted by: andylawcc
speaking of which, how do they Dyno 4WD cars? jack up the front so it's spinning in the air?

I actually asked the guy that...he said, if he can, he pulls one of the drive shafts out.

Are you insane? You will toast the center diff in a few seconds doing this.

Ever seen an AWD car? They ALWAYS say "Must be towed on flatbed, do not tow by 2 wheels".

This is because there is a limited slip component designed to keep the front and rear tires turning approximately the same speed. If you have a limited slip center diff it will burn up instantly trying to transfer power to wheels that aren't hooked up. If you don't have a limited slip the unhooked drive shaft will be the only drive shaft received any power as an open diff spins the end with LESS traction.

That's with AWD cars, not 4WD.

Ha. Yeah there are lost of 4WD "CARS" I'm assuming you of course me with disengageble transfercases.
 

Theguynextdoor

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Really good there, considering my C5 with 345HP at the crank puts down only 295 at the wheels.

Congrats. Do you have any plans to lighten? If you can shave off 100lbs off the car it'll be pretty quick. BTW anybody know the gearing config on the GTs?
 

Apex

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Originally posted by: cbehnken
Originally posted by: Apex
Originally posted by: cbehnken
Originally posted by: DaTT
Originally posted by: andylawcc
speaking of which, how do they Dyno 4WD cars? jack up the front so it's spinning in the air?

I actually asked the guy that...he said, if he can, he pulls one of the drive shafts out.

Are you insane? You will toast the center diff in a few seconds doing this.

Ever seen an AWD car? They ALWAYS say "Must be towed on flatbed, do not tow by 2 wheels".

This is because there is a limited slip component designed to keep the front and rear tires turning approximately the same speed. If you have a limited slip center diff it will burn up instantly trying to transfer power to wheels that aren't hooked up. If you don't have a limited slip the unhooked drive shaft will be the only drive shaft received any power as an open diff spins the end with LESS traction.

That's with AWD cars, not 4WD.

Ha. Yeah there are lost of 4WD "CARS" I'm assuming you of course me with disengageble transfercases.

Hehe, very true. But he asked.

The vast majority of those are trucks.
 

DaTT

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Originally posted by: cbehnken
Originally posted by: DaTT
Originally posted by: andylawcc
speaking of which, how do they Dyno 4WD cars? jack up the front so it's spinning in the air?

I actually asked the guy that...he said, if he can, he pulls one of the drive shafts out.

Are you insane? You will toast the center diff in a few seconds doing this.

Ever seen an AWD car? They ALWAYS say "Must be towed on flatbed, do not tow by 2 wheels".

This is because there is a limited slip component designed to keep the front and rear tires turning approximately the same speed. If you have a limited slip center diff it will burn up instantly trying to transfer power to wheels that aren't hooked up. If you don't have a limited slip the unhooked drive shaft will be the only drive shaft received any power as an open diff spins the end with LESS traction.

This is what he said, and I assume he knows what he is talking about.
 
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