Got my mitts on an ipad pro 9.7. Not feeling the love

Oyeve

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I really dont see the difference between this and an air 2. Other than the pen, whats the point? I'm not being an ahole, its for a future user and was only 50 bucks more than an air 2. Am I missing something?
 

Eug

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No I'd guess you're not missing anything. Until it gets more memory than the Air 2, I'd avoid it.

But hey, if it's only $50 more, then why not?
 

luv2liv

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i get the impression the Pro is for artists to draw. it is definitely not for "normal" people.
although i cant imagine real pros at Industrial Light and Magic use it instead of a wacom tablet on a 22 inch monitor or bigger to do real work
 

Oyeve

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Im not seeing any "pro" apps. Does that mean I would have to pay not only 100 bucks for the pen, but apps as well?
 

Midwayman

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Yah, its pretty much a rip off, especially when the stupid pencil you need for the defining feature is $100 more. Pretty much the only good thing about the base unit is that it moved up to 32gb.
 

Oyeve

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Yah, its pretty much a rip off, especially when the stupid pencil you need for the defining feature is $100 more. Pretty much the only good thing about the base unit is that it moved up to 32gb.

Yeah, pretty much. The speakers sound good, but, its still a tablet, not a boom box to take to the beach.
 

Artdeco

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You can't tell any difference in the screen or the speed?

Only $50 price difference?
 

Oyeve

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You can't tell any difference in the screen or the speed?

Only $50 price difference?

No, not really. True color mode is OK but I prefer it off as the screen is brighter. Doesn't seem much speedier than an air or air 2.
 

SAWYER

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I have a 9.7" pro and I dont see what the hype is either for a normal, average user over an air
 

Commodus

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Im not seeing any "pro" apps. Does that mean I would have to pay not only 100 bucks for the pen, but apps as well?

When you buy a PC, do you expect a free copy of AutoCAD or Photoshop in the box?

Some of the apps that would take full advantage of the Pencil or Smart Connector keyboards are free, like Paper or the Office suite (you don't need to pay for Office on devices under 10 inches). Others... well, the likelihood of Apple bundling third-party apps, especially paid ones, is rather slim.

The iPad Pro 9.7 isn't for those who are perfectly happy with the iPad Air 2. It's for someone coming from an earlier iPad, someone who has to have the best, or someone who absolutely craves pen input or a keyboard. Take me, for example: I'm still on an original iPad Air, and the Pro would be a gigantic leap in almost every respect.
 

Oyeve

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When you buy a PC, do you expect a free copy of AutoCAD or Photoshop in the box?

But this is a pad, and with a premium on top of it. I actually do expect at least one app tailored for the "pro" aspect. At least some apple app that showcases what makes it "pro". Some apple home-brewed drawing app? My note 3 and note 4 came with some note specific apps, my dell venue 11 pro did as well.
 

Commodus

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But this is a pad, and with a premium on top of it. I actually do expect at least one app tailored for the "pro" aspect. At least some apple app that showcases what makes it "pro". Some apple home-brewed drawing app? My note 3 and note 4 came with some note specific apps, my dell venue 11 pro did as well.

Pro workstations don't usually ship with bundled pro apps, either.

You do get free access to Apple's iWork suite (Keynote, Numbers, Pages) for the keyboard side of things. Apple doesn't have any pen-specific software of its own yet, which is a bit of a misstep, but it also announced the original iPad Pro when iOS 9 was already done and dusted, and there weren't going to be major changes to the software. I wouldn't be surprised if iOS 10 is more Pencil-aware, in the same way that the original iPad didn't really come into its own until iOS 4 arrived. (You didn't have any multitasking, for example.)

The premium... well, whether or not it's really worth $200 over the iPad Air 2 is one thing, but you do get a lot. Better CPU, camera, display, Smart Connector and Pencil support and more baseline storage.
 
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There is no difference other than the Pencil. But for some people and some use cases that Pencil is a big deal. Just because you don't see the need for it doesn't make it not Pro or not worth the money. It's all about knowing what "your" needs are and buying the correct device.
 

Midwayman

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Sad thing is all they really would have had to do to live up to the pro name and make it worth it is give you 4gb ram. Probably less than $5 of ram.
 

Artdeco

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1.). Best sound from an iPad
2.). Fastest iPad
3.). Best screen of any iPad
4.). Stylus

You know, this gets old.

If I was going to upgrade, it would be an easy choice...

But yeah, unimpressive, pick one of the many superior Android tablets, with those superior apps.

I can link to a half dozen reviews at Google search speed that say just that. I really don't have a dog in the fight, but honestly sometimes, people need to step back and look at their biases.

PSA, I'm fixing to start using an Android tablet international version as a phone paired to an LG Urbane watch, skip the next revision of the iPhone and the Apple Watch, go for the next.
 
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ChAoTiCpInOy

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I upgraded from an iPad 2. My decision was based on the fact that I want anothe iPad to survive 5 years. With the iPad Air 2 being 2 years old already, to future proof myself, it made sense for me to get an 9.7" iPad Pro.

The biggest differences between the iPad Air 2 and the iPad Pro are:
1) A9X vs A8X
2) Stereo Sound
3) Smart Connector
4) Pencil Support
5) True Tone Display

If those aren't a big deal for you, then the iPad Air 2 would be a better choice.
 

Oyeve

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1.). Best sound from an iPad
2.). Fastest iPad
3.). Best screen of any iPad
4.). Stylus

You know, this gets old.

If I was going to upgrade, it would be an easy choice...

But yeah, unimpressive, pick one of the many superior Android tablets, with those superior apps.

I can link to a half dozen reviews at Google search speed that say just that. I really don't have a dog in the fight, but honestly sometimes, people need to step back and look at their biases.

PSA, I'm fixing to start using an Android tablet international version as a phone paired to an LG Urbane watch, skip the next revision of the iPhone and the Apple Watch, go for the next.

Your posts are getting old. No threw in any Android response so I don't know why you brought it up.
 

Artdeco

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Your posts are getting old. No threw in any Android response so I don't know why you brought it up.

Let's see a review that agrees with what you've posted.

I must have gotten this and your FS/FT thread mixed up, do you own any Apple products?
 
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ControlD

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Let's see a review that agrees with what you've posted.

It was one user's opinion for god's sake. It wasn't an in depth review.

A buddy of mine has the Pro 9.7. Honestly, I can't tell any difference in using it and my Air 2. They are both great devices, but unless you need the features the Pro brings to the table, chances are you won't see much of a difference. The Air 2 is already excellent for most normal tablet duties. Whatever the performance differences are probably get lost in the mundane things we tend to use tablets for.
 

Artdeco

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Sorry, Oyeve, I guess you're allowed to have an opinion, thanks for posting it.
 

QueBert

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I was all ready to get one when I read and saw it only has the 1st gen touch ID. Nothing wrong with that, it works great on my iP6+, but I've used the 2nd gen and it's way faster. How they hell is it missing from Apple's latest and greatest tablet "pro" tablet.
 
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Did this really need its own thread? This was discussed quite a bit in the main thread when this was announced.

Plus I think a lot of people are missing one of the key markets for this device: schools. The pencil support, smaller size, and lower price will enable this to be a Surface Pro competitor for schools where the 12.9 couldn't be.

I was all ready to get one when I read and saw it only has the 1st gen touch ID. Nothing wrong with that, it works great on my iP6+, but I've used the 2nd gen and it's way faster. How they hell is it missing from Apple's latest and greatest tablet "pro" tablet.

Because Apple is all about margins and cobbles together devices based on that and their supply of components. Great for business but often leads to products that come off a bit wonky. It is also one of the reasons people (rightfully so) criticize Apple for the way the talk about specs and things (they act like they don't matter, or take AMOLED for instance where they've been badmouthing it for years, but that appears will all change with the iPhone 7, in which case they'll give it a buzzy marketing name "infinite black" or something probably, and act like its the best thing ever).
 

Oyeve

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Let's see a review that agrees with what you've posted.

I must have gotten this and your FS/FT thread mixed up, do you own any Apple products?

I own several ipads, a mbp and every iphone since the 3. I also maintain the 4 macs at work
 

Artdeco

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Which model iPhone is your daily driver at the moment?

I gotta tell you, after a search of your posts, all of your comments about Apple products are generally derogatory, things like: "I don't use an iPhone because I'm not a tool." kind of posts, I guess I perceive your holding yourself out as an unbiased reviewer as somewhat disingenuous.

Of course you're entitled to your own opinion, but be honest, you don't seem to like Apple products at all, looked back at 100+ posts, got bored and stopped, but I can pretty well predict what you'll post about Apple products, not saying that's a bad thing, but, come on, at least be honest.

I use both OS's from multiple manufacturers, have a Windows tab and phone too, they all have their positives and negatives.
 
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