Got my Volcano seized

[UnatcoAgent]

I live in Canada and am from out west (Alberta is the Texas of Canada) and I wouldn't have done what you were doing - using any drugs in the outdoors is a bad idea, I would just cut your losses and maybe give up the dope at the same time.

 

[RbSX]

So I wake up this morning, take out the garbage, grab myself some cheerios, and my first impulse is to get back on here and post what a fuckin idiot the OP is. Again.

 

[Raduque]

Originally posted by: McCartney

It wasn't my car dumbass.

Then you didn't have a say in it being or not being searched. You can only give/deny permission to search your person.

Epic fail. Paraphernalia used as an accessory? How about it's not paraphernalia and it's not used as an accessory. How about it's equipment that has more than one purpose and I should be allowed to get it back?

Here's a question for you: If you were pulled over with a 4" square mirror and a packet of razor blades, and the cops legally (as they did here: they had reasonable suspicion and were given permission) searched the vehicle and found a bag of coke, should they not be allowed to take the mirror and razor blades? After all, these are both pieces of equipment with multiple uses each.

If a knife is used in a crime, it's likely to KILL someone and its' going to confiscated as evidence.
If a vaporizer is used to smoke marijuana, none of which was scene or observed at the point of seizure. (The original reason we were even harassed by these officers is due to trespassing). They had a smell from a joint which prompted them to ask to search the car.
My vaporizer? A bag had been filled but not used. So basically if someone uses a knife in a crime there is a real purpose as to why it's seized. If a car is stolen it's seized as evidence once found. My vaporizer was seized when there was a crime committed from an independent source and thus if my accessory hadn't been the origin for the reason to get the marijuana confiscated, then why take it?
That's like me taking a knife from someone because I Think they're going to kill someone. What is your basis for killing someone? By looking at them or ordering them around for 5 minutes?

From your childish ranting, I picked up that they seized the vaporizer because the part you put the weed in had weed in it.

To use your knife analog, this is more like if your knife had a detachable blade, and the blade was covered in blood, so they confiscate the handle, and you're bitching that you want the handle back.

Oh, and a knife is used for more than dealing bodily harm.

And finally, God DAMN, you're a whiner!

Originally posted by: McCartney

What bothers me most is how you all think I'm some stoner and you laugh at my situation. Infact it irritates me more than you'd think.

It's because this is how you come across.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: jhbball
Anti-marijuana nerds out in full force!

actually if you read the thread (yes i know its hard) you would know we arent bashing him for smoking pot. we are bashing him because he is a idiot and cry baby.

 

[UnatcoAgent]

I think this is a good example of why using drugs is bad.

 

[lizardboy]

Originally posted by: lizardboy
It had to be done:

My Volcano!!!

fixed link, i screwed it up last night

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: jhbball
Anti-marijuana nerds out in full force!

read the thread and know the OP you are talking about.

Didn't know we were in the shadow of a ballah.

 

[IHateMyJob2004]

If hte vaporizer was not used for marijuana use previously, you could probably get it back. Now that it is known to have been used for illegal use (having evidence attached to it, you will never get it back.

And as for paying $700 for something that can be made for $5, you are stupid.

 

[BeauJangles]

Originally posted by: McCartney
From what perspective do you say I'm not getting my Vaporizer back BlinderBomber.
Are you a lawyer? I'm asking because you seem very certain and I'd like to know.

Thx

I'm not a lawyer, but the police had every right to take it. If they are "reasonably suspicious" that the item was used a crime (in this case, smoking weed), they CAN take it. As for getting it back, I guess there's a slim possibility, but I wouldn't really bank on it.

 

[bonkers325]

China called, they want their great wall of text back.




you got busted for smoking, your buds had no license, and they confiscated your vaporizer.

but you didnt go to jail for smoking weed, possession of weed, or possibly driving while intoxicated (and without a license)

you got off easy. next time dont smoke in public, moron

 

[Sumguy]

Originally posted by: Raduque

Originally posted by: McCartney

It wasn't my car dumbass.

Then you didn't have a say in it being or not being searched. You can only give/deny permission to search your person.

Epic fail. Paraphernalia used as an accessory? How about it's not paraphernalia and it's not used as an accessory. How about it's equipment that has more than one purpose and I should be allowed to get it back?

Here's a question for you: If you were pulled over with a 4" square mirror and a packet of razor blades, and the cops legally (as they did here: they had reasonable suspicion and were given permission) searched the vehicle and found a bag of coke, should they not be allowed to take the mirror and razor blades? After all, these are both pieces of equipment with multiple uses each.

If a knife is used in a crime, it's likely to KILL someone and its' going to confiscated as evidence.
If a vaporizer is used to smoke marijuana, none of which was scene or observed at the point of seizure. (The original reason we were even harassed by these officers is due to trespassing). They had a smell from a joint which prompted them to ask to search the car.
My vaporizer? A bag had been filled but not used. So basically if someone uses a knife in a crime there is a real purpose as to why it's seized. If a car is stolen it's seized as evidence once found. My vaporizer was seized when there was a crime committed from an independent source and thus if my accessory hadn't been the origin for the reason to get the marijuana confiscated, then why take it?
That's like me taking a knife from someone because I Think they're going to kill someone. What is your basis for killing someone? By looking at them or ordering them around for 5 minutes?

From your childish ranting, I picked up that they seized the vaporizer because the part you put the weed in had weed in it.

To use your knife analog, this is more like if your knife had a detachable blade, and the blade was covered in blood, so they confiscate the handle, and you're bitching that you want the handle back.

Oh, and a knife is used for more than dealing bodily harm.

And finally, God DAMN, you're a whiner!

Originally posted by: McCartney

What bothers me most is how you all think I'm some stoner and you laugh at my situation. Infact it irritates me more than you'd think.

It's because this is how you come across.

See bolded text.

Oh my, if my reading comprehension does not fail me, I believe you just said that your beloved volcano had some weed in it, but you weren't using the weed when the cops searched your buddies car so it should be all good.

In fact...yes. Take this to court. Don't be surprised if the judge hands you one of these.

 

[summit]

Someone should be superNARCman and fwd this to the police.

 

[McCartney]

I talked to the police.
It's being handled. The officers/corporals whatever you call them are going to be questioned by the sergeant.
My friends are buying me a new one
I'm happy

Lock thread mod, thanks.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Originally posted by: McCartney
I talked to the police.
It's being handled. The officers/corporals whatever you call them are going to be questioned by the sergeant.
My friends are buying me a new one
I'm happy

Lock thread mod, thanks.

Your friends are dumber than you. Good job....

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: McCartney
I talked to the police.
It's being handled. The officers/corporals whatever you call them are going to be questioned by the sergeant.
My friends are buying me a new one
I'm happy

Lock thread mod, thanks.

so the Sergeant is going to ask him about it. then laugh at you.

but hey cool that your friends will buy you a new one.

just don't do something retarded again and use it in public

 

[OdiN]

wow.......ownage of the year here?

 

[ConstipatedVigilante]

Originally posted by: Jeff7
Why do you need a $700 device to use marijuana?

Yeah...I'm pretty sure you can make your own vaporizer out of a soldering iron, a plastic bag, some piping, and a little handiwork.

 

[imported_Baloo]

$700 for a vaporizer? Holy Crap! You need to do your shopping at walmart.

 

[imported_Imp]

Originally posted by: Baloo
$700 for a vaporizer? Holy Crap! You need to do your shopping at walmart.

Sometimes you can't beat quality goods.

 

[rasczak]

Originally posted by: McCartney
They told me I can't get it back.
That's bullshit.
If you guys aren't lawyers and you're giving advice like you are then I"m sorry this is epic fail.
You guys shouldn't be using your social compass to judge me.
I volunteer 40 hours at a Palliative care Facility in my city,
I am a Computational Physics University student
And I'm a upstanding citizen of society.
I don't bitch and moan about tickets, I openly accept them. However when you confiscate a device that wasn't being used or proof of being used infront of the officer that sets off flags.
Please if you don't have legal advice save your moral posts and send em to my PM box.

YOU BROKE THE LAW. How much more justification for taking the stupid vaporizor do you f*cking need? The cop should have thrown you in jail instead. Then we'd be reading a post about your rights after getting your asshole reamed by bubba. Growup you f*cktard, be grateful you did not get thrown in jail. Scrap the vaporizor and call it a lesson learned.

 

[LtPage1]

Originally posted by: McCartney
I want the one I had back, that's why I'm willing to spend the cost of the bong on it because I'm sentimentally attached to it.
There is nothing that can replace memories with a material item that has scars which hold memories. Good ones too.

So get a lawyer and stop incriminating yourself publicly on the Internet. Duh.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Reading through this thread, I have to say the OP sounds exactly like a good friend of mine. I've known the guy since childhood, and we're almost brothers in that we've grown up together, but he has made some incredibly stupid choices in his life (not unlike the OP). A fitting example:

Said friend (let's call him X) was a member of a gym. He bragged to me on several occasions that he would go into people's lockers and steal items or money (to finance a drug habit). He kept this up for several months.

Eventually, the gym cancelled his membership. When he asked why, they said they believed he was involved in theft. As evidence, they produced timestamps that showed conclusively that he had been at the gym during every single reported theft. X, being the genius that he is, said he would sue them for slander and they couldn't do this to him, etc., etc. When he told me, I shook my head and laughed and said it served him right; after all, he was guilty. Just because they didn't have an eyewitness doesn't mean you're innocent.

OP, there's a lesson to be learned here, which you have clearly not. You were in violation of the law. You admitted that you used the vaporizer to smoke weed. You've come clean to us and told us the truth. Now you want us to sympathize with you because the police did exactly what their job says they should? You broke the law, you got burned. Hopefully, they don't give you your vaporizer back. Quite frankly, your friends are stupid for buying you another one. Without a sense of loss associated with this event, you are doomed to repeat it.

Just don't post about it next time.

 

[wwswimming]

Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante

Originally posted by: Jeff7
Why do you need a $700 device to use marijuana?

Yeah...I'm pretty sure you can make your own vaporizer out of a soldering iron, a plastic bag, some piping, and a little handiwork.

i've worked on microelectronics stuff where we used a hot plate
for a controlled pre-heat and then used a soldering iron or heated
nitrogen or something to reflow solder.

a hot plate with a good thermocouple. i don't know why, but
the temperature 245 degrees F comes to mind.

basically the Volcano, if i understand it, is part mechanism to
heat the Ganja to a temperature below burning, and part
"artificial lung" that pumps air into a big inflated condom size
thingie. which is then passed around.

 

[cdmccool]

Smoking marijuana is illegal in the U.S., that means you're going to hell.

God bless America, and no one else!

 

[ShockwaveVT]

Originally posted by: McCartney

Originally posted by: RapidSnail

Originally posted by: McCartney
It is hilarious how you're involving a moral or social compass.
I'm trying to find a legal compass.

A legal compass for what? If the cop seized your property, he had a reason for it. THE LAW.

Originally posted by: McCartney
You're confused again Mrvile, it's not illegal to own or use marijuana.
You do get a small fine, usually they give you a warning and put it away.

Are you sure the cop took the vaporizer?

Originally posted by: McCartney
This is a clear case of an officer doing what he wants.

No, this is a clear case of an officer doing what he is allowed to do.

He took it and he had no reason to take it.
He said that I used it to smoke marijuana yet at the scene there was no display of use.
Yes a bag was filled up but it hadn't been used and the seal was still on.
It's all circumstantial as far as I'm concerned. If they saw us inhale from the bag I'd say different. THey stabbed the bag and smelt the air and said we were "using it" to get high and thus it's an accessory yet the only reason the car smelled was because my friends were smoking joints in his car and the smell of the bag after it was stabbed obviously added odor.
They were young guys that really were nice, exception of one who kept trying to get aggresive for no reason.
All I want is my vaporizer. They can keep the bags, filling chamber and I can buy all that stuff again since the actual vaporizer has NO residue on it since it clips onto the chamber and heats the CHAMBER! the Chamber then disperses the heated marijuana air into a vacuum sealed bag.

The OP is an idiot. The device was obviously being used to consume weed & thus is subject to confiscation. Any judge would agree.

It would be one thing if the unit was disassembled, packed away and there wasn't a vaporizer bag full of vaporized weed sitting next to it. That right there is direct evidence the cops need to confiscate the pricey toy.