Got my Volcano seized

[summit]

smoke the cat the your mom didn't let you get. i heard thats 100% legal.

 

[compman25]

So is this like a vaporizer for your bedroom? Are you a short bus smoker? I can just see you in your friends SUV busting out the big ass vaporizer just to not get a little pollution in your body. You sound like an idiot.

 

[BeauJangles]

Originally posted by: McCartney

Originally posted by: Bignate603
Dude, we're not using any "moral compass". The law says they have the right to seize anything used to use drugs (pipes, needles, etc...) and that they don't need to return it. If you keep trying to get it back they'll test if for pot residue, come up positive and then still keep it. If you make their lives miserable they'll find something drug related to charge you with.

You broke the law, deal with it. You sound like a 12 year old whining because somebody took your toy.

There will not be residue on the actual device.
Just the nozzle which i dsconnected.

You don't get it, do you? If I have a smoking pipe in my car and I get pulled over, the police can't take it away. If I have that same pipe with me and I get pulled over and also are in possession of crack, marijuana, whatever, the police CAN (and will) take it away from me. Even if they never saw me using it.

 

[RbSX]

Originally posted by: McCartney
They told me I can't get it back.
That's bullshit.
If you guys aren't lawyers and you're giving advice like you are then I"m sorry this is epic fail.
You guys shouldn't be using your social compass to judge me.
I volunteer 40 hours at a Palliative care Facility in my city,
I am a Computational Physics University student
And I'm a upstanding citizen of society.
I don't bitch and moan about tickets, I openly accept them. However when you confiscate a device that wasn't being used or proof of being used infront of the officer that sets off flags.
Please if you don't have legal advice save your moral posts and send em to my PM box.

It's not bullshit, and don't take our liberal policy on mary jane smoking for granted, what you did was retarded.

It doesn't fucking matter if you were on private propery or not, smoking it is illegal still, yes, but they give you a lot of lee-way. Chances are you were as much of an obstinant prick to them as you are being right now, and good riddance they took your 700 dollar play toy away, who the fuck spends 700 dollars on a machine to get high anyways.

Good-fucking-riddance.

Edit: He even has the black man avy, somehow I think the fuse talk programmers were sending us a message when they put that as the default avy.

 

[Aquaman]

You use the vaporizer to smoke pot right? Then that is drug paraphernalia = destroyed. Just like if you had a bong or crack pipe.

Even if they didn't see you use it...... they can seize it because it's drug paraphernalia.

Game over.

Cheers,
Aquaman

 

[RbSX]

Originally posted by: BlinderBomber

Originally posted by: McCartney

Originally posted by: Bignate603
Dude, we're not using any "moral compass". The law says they have the right to seize anything used to use drugs (pipes, needles, etc...) and that they don't need to return it. If you keep trying to get it back they'll test if for pot residue, come up positive and then still keep it. If you make their lives miserable they'll find something drug related to charge you with.

You broke the law, deal with it. You sound like a 12 year old whining because somebody took your toy.

There will not be residue on the actual device.
Just the nozzle which i dsconnected.

You don't get it, do you? If I have a smoking pipe in my car and I get pulled over, the police can't take it away. If I have that same pipe with me and I get pulled over and also are in possession of crack, marijuana, whatever, the police CAN (and will) take it away from me. Even if they never saw me using it.

Ding Ding DONG

 

[montag451]

OP
Do yourself a favour and don't look at any more posts after this one.

Obviously not many ppl posting to this thread have bothered reading it.
Also, not many know the law in Canada.
Also, a fair percentage of them are going 'oh my god its illegal in my country so it is bad blah blah blah you evil mofo'

So, do yourself a favour - get a lawyer and ignore everything else in this thread cos you'll just get upset.
Good luck

 

[RbSX]

Originally posted by: montag451
OP
Do yourself a favour and don't look at any more posts after this one.

Obviously not many ppl posting to this thread have bothered reading it.
Also, not many know the law in Canada.
Also, a fair percentage of them are going 'oh my god its illegal in my country so it is bad blah blah blah you evil mofo'

So, do yourself a favour - get a lawyer and ignore everything else in this thread cos you'll just get upset.
Good luck

Well, I do, I live in Canada, and Vancouver is the mary-jane capital of Canada, and probably the biggest jane smoking city outside of Amsterdam.

The fact is what the kid did was illegal, despite our liberal policy, using paraphenilia to get high is grounds for seizure.

They should also be happy their car wasn't seized so they wouldn't drive it home while intoxicated.

 

[Aquaman]

Originally posted by: montag451
OP
Do yourself a favour and don't look at any more posts after this one.

Obviously not many ppl posting to this thread have bothered reading it.
Also, not many know the law in Canada.
Also, a fair percentage of them are going 'oh my god its illegal in my country so it is bad blah blah blah you evil mofo'

So, do yourself a favour - get a lawyer and ignore everything else in this thread cos you'll just get upset.
Good luck

Yeah........ get a $200+/hour lawyer to retrieve a $700 item.

May as well buy a new one.

Cheers,
Aquaman

 

[McCartney]

Originally posted by: RyanSengara

Originally posted by: montag451
OP
Do yourself a favour and don't look at any more posts after this one.

Obviously not many ppl posting to this thread have bothered reading it.
Also, not many know the law in Canada.
Also, a fair percentage of them are going 'oh my god its illegal in my country so it is bad blah blah blah you evil mofo'

So, do yourself a favour - get a lawyer and ignore everything else in this thread cos you'll just get upset.
Good luck

Well, I do, I live in Canada, and Vancouver is the mary-jane capital of Canada, and probably the biggest jane smoking city outside of Amsterdam.

The fact is what the kid did was illegal, despite our liberal policy, using paraphenilia to get high is grounds for seizure.

They should also be happy their car wasn't seized so they wouldn't drive it home while intoxicated.

It wasn't my car dumbass.
Go read the official post before you start yapping.
A volcano isn't drug paraphernalia so I think you're just stupid.
I'm not african american either.
So parphernalia to get high is illegal? Is that why Edmonton Police told me they wouldn't and can't confiscate it?
GG you fail at reading. Go smoke some more bc-bud.

 

[Bignate603]

Originally posted by: McCartney

Originally posted by: Bignate603
Dude, we're not using any "moral compass". The law says they have the right to seize anything used to use drugs (pipes, needles, etc...) and that they don't need to return it. If you keep trying to get it back they'll test if for pot residue, come up positive and then still keep it. If you make their lives miserable they'll find something drug related to charge you with.

You broke the law, deal with it. You sound like a 12 year old whining because somebody took your toy.

There will not be residue on the actual device.
Just the nozzle which i dsconnected.

Surrrre... They'd most likely get enough on the rest to get a positive. Anyways, you admit that you broke the law. You used this thing to break the law. The law states that something used like that can be confiscated and kept.

Remind me again why you should get it back?

Smoking pot is your own choice, however like many things if you're going to play you need to willing to pay if something goes wrong. If you didn't want to lose $700 you shouldn't have been in a situation that would risk it.

 

[BassBomb]

Originally posted by: biggestmuff
If you can afford a $700 bong, then you can afford to buy another one. If you can't afford to buy another one, then you shouldn't have bought one in the first place.

Thats like saying if you can afford a 500000 house, you should be able to afford another?

 

[Bill Brasky]

Shoulda stuck to zig zags, huh?

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: McCartney

Originally posted by: RyanSengara

Originally posted by: montag451
OP
Do yourself a favour and don't look at any more posts after this one.

Obviously not many ppl posting to this thread have bothered reading it.
Also, not many know the law in Canada.
Also, a fair percentage of them are going 'oh my god its illegal in my country so it is bad blah blah blah you evil mofo'

So, do yourself a favour - get a lawyer and ignore everything else in this thread cos you'll just get upset.
Good luck

Well, I do, I live in Canada, and Vancouver is the mary-jane capital of Canada, and probably the biggest jane smoking city outside of Amsterdam.

The fact is what the kid did was illegal, despite our liberal policy, using paraphenilia to get high is grounds for seizure.

They should also be happy their car wasn't seized so they wouldn't drive it home while intoxicated.

It wasn't my car dumbass.
Go read the official post before you start yapping.
A volcano isn't drug paraphernalia so I think you're just stupid.
I'm not african american either.
So parphernalia to get high is illegal? Is that why Edmonton Police told me they wouldn't and can't confiscate it?
GG you fail at reading. Go smoke some more bc-bud.

it is paraphernalia when it is found with people smokeing pot, having pot etc. so before you start calling someone stupid you better understand the situation.

and no the edmonton police did NOT tell you tehyw couldnt and wouldnt take it. thats just bullshit.

 

[Bignate603]

A volcano isn't drug paraphernalia so I think you're just stupid.

Drug paraphernalia can be anything that is used to make a drug or use a drug. You used the volcano to use the drug. It is drug paraphernalia.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Originally posted by: BassBomb

Originally posted by: biggestmuff
If you can afford a $700 bong, then you can afford to buy another one. If you can't afford to buy another one, then you shouldn't have bought one in the first place.

Thats like saying if you can afford a 500000 house, you should be able to afford another?

No. But thats different. 700 bucks is different from 5000000 dollars, and one usually does not buy a house for the sole purpose of doing something like creating meth or anything illegal so that the police can crack your head open

 

[McCartney]

that's most likely an american definition because paraphernalia usually has one exclusive purpose.
This has more than one, they didn't see me use it, they seen a bag filled and a nozzle disconnected that can't prove the age of the weed.
If I smoked weed previous to getting arrested then they can't arrest me or confiscate it for smoking marijuana in my old home.
The argument you guys are using basically says if I have a volcano in my car at any time with USED marijuana that I maybe forgot to empty, that a cop has a right to seize it.
He doesn't, he asked my friend to search his car, that gave them the right to take my property?
I think not.

 

[summit]

Originally posted by: tenshodo13

Originally posted by: BassBomb

Originally posted by: biggestmuff
If you can afford a $700 bong, then you can afford to buy another one. If you can't afford to buy another one, then you shouldn't have bought one in the first place.

Thats like saying if you can afford a 500000 house, you should be able to afford another?

No. But thats different. 700 bucks is different from 5000000 dollars, and one usually does not buy a house for the sole purpose of doing something like creating meth or anything illegal so that the police can crack your head open

that's what we have the trailer in the back of the house for.

 

[rezinn]

Just go get high some more and you'll forget all about this.

 

[McCartney]

I am actually not smoking marijuana until I get my fucking vaporizer back, I am frustrated and I feel violated.
I nearly cried. IT's mine and they can't take it because they feel like it.

Our definition of paraphernalia isn't the american one.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Originally posted by: McCartney
that's most likely an american definition because paraphernalia usually has one exclusive purpose.
This has more than one, they didn't see me use it, they seen a bag filled and a nozzle disconnected that can't prove the age of the weed.
If I smoked weed previous to getting arrested then they can't arrest me or confiscate it for smoking marijuana in my old home.
The argument you guys are using basically says if I have a volcano in my car at any time with USED marijuana that I maybe forgot to empty, that a cop has a right to seize it.
He doesn't, he asked my friend to search his car, that gave them the right to take my property?
I think not.

Yes...yes it does. Once you give consent to be searched, you can get possessions sized if there is reasonable suspicion that it was being used for illegal purposes. The smell of weed in a car with a vaporizer is reasonable suspicion.

I mean, a video camera can be used for lots of things right? But when the police come and see a dozen 8 year olds locked inside a closet, the camera pointing at a bed right next to it, and a garage full of candy and formaldehyde, you can be reasonably sure what thoughts are going through the minds of the police.

You weren't using it at the time of arrest, and you can't prove the last time that it was used. Does that mean you should get to keep it? (Nevermind you would be in jail)

 

[nonameo]

Tell them you at LEAST want to see it destroyed. I await their response.

 

[xSkyDrAx]

Originally posted by: McCartney
I am actually not smoking marijuana until I get my fucking vaporizer back, I am frustrated and I feel violated.
I nearly cried. IT's mine and they can't take it because they feel like it.

Our definition of paraphernalia isn't the american one.

ROFL QTH! (quoted for hilarity)

Grow the fuck up :roll:

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: McCartney
I am actually not smoking marijuana until I get my fucking vaporizer back, I am frustrated and I feel violated.
I nearly cried. IT's mine and they can't take it because they feel like it.

Sweet! The war on drugs works!:laugh:

Dude, if you CONSENT to a search, you have NO right to complain if they confiscate your stuff. A vaporizer is a drug delivery device. Whether it is delivering an illegal drug, or a legal one, if they catch you with it AND an illegal drug, it is reasonable for them to suspect that you are using it for an illegal activity.

Oh, and you should look up the definition of "decriminalized" in your province...because if it's anything like it is here, it does NOT mean that doing something is legal, just that it is a civil rather than a criminal offense. In other words, it's still illegal, but it won't go on your record, AND (this is the bad part) the burden of proof that you committed it is somewhat lower. It's that way with traffic infractions here...it's actually harder to get out of them now than before they were decriminalized, because the cops just have to show that "a preponderance of the evidence" points to your guilt, rather than proving you guilty "beyond a reasonable doubt."

Again, not sure how the law works in your area, but I'm 97.3% SURE that you're never going to get your yuppie drug-tube back. That's what you get for being stupid enough to consent to a search when you were breaking the law.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: McCartney
I am actually not smoking marijuana until I get my fucking vaporizer back, I am frustrated and I feel violated.
I nearly cried. IT's mine and they can't take it because they feel like it.

Our definition of paraphernalia isn't the american one.

hahaha damn. you sound worse then my 5 yr old.