Got my Volcano seized

[RbSX]

Originally posted by: McCartney

Originally posted by: RyanSengara

Originally posted by: montag451
OP
Do yourself a favour and don't look at any more posts after this one.

Obviously not many ppl posting to this thread have bothered reading it.
Also, not many know the law in Canada.
Also, a fair percentage of them are going 'oh my god its illegal in my country so it is bad blah blah blah you evil mofo'

So, do yourself a favour - get a lawyer and ignore everything else in this thread cos you'll just get upset.
Good luck

Well, I do, I live in Canada, and Vancouver is the mary-jane capital of Canada, and probably the biggest jane smoking city outside of Amsterdam.

The fact is what the kid did was illegal, despite our liberal policy, using paraphenilia to get high is grounds for seizure.

They should also be happy their car wasn't seized so they wouldn't drive it home while intoxicated.

It wasn't my car dumbass.
Go read the official post before you start yapping.
A volcano isn't drug paraphernalia so I think you're just stupid.
I'm not african american either.
So parphernalia to get high is illegal? Is that why Edmonton Police told me they wouldn't and can't confiscate it?
GG you fail at reading. Go smoke some more bc-bud.

Who cares if it wasn't your car, if you guys drove after smoking it would be a DUI.
Your volcano was used for the purposes of smoking mary-jane, it's able to be seized.
You didn't get the reference to the famed 'black guy avy' on ATOT, go kill yourself.
Yes paraphenelia used as an accessory to getting high is illegal if you are using it in the process of getting high.

You fail at life for posting this thread </yourself> but you're from Edmonton, thats almost a prison sentence already.

 

[RbSX]

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: McCartney
I am actually not smoking marijuana until I get my fucking vaporizer back, I am frustrated and I feel violated.
I nearly cried. IT's mine and they can't take it because they feel like it.

Sweet! The war on drugs works!:laugh:

Dude, if you CONSENT to a search, you have NO right to complain if they confiscate your stuff. A vaporizer is a drug delivery device. Whether it is delivering an illegal drug, or a legal one, if they catch you with it AND an illegal drug, it is reasonable for them to suspect that you are using it for an illegal activity.

Oh, and you should look up the definition of "decriminalized" in your province...because if it's anything like it is here, it does NOT mean that doing something is legal, just that it is a civil rather than a criminal offense. In other words, it's still illegal, but it won't go on your record, AND (this is the bad part) the burden of proof that you committed it is somewhat lower. It's that way with traffic infractions here...it's actually harder to get out of them now than before they were decriminalized, because the cops just have to show that "a preponderance of the evidence" points to your guilt, rather than proving you guilty "beyond a reasonable doubt."

Again, not sure how the law works in your area, but I'm 97.3% SURE that you're never going to get your yuppie drug-tube back. That's what you get for being stupid enough to consent to a search when you were breaking the law.

He doesn't have to consent if he was committing a crime.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: McCartney
I am actually not smoking marijuana until I get my fucking vaporizer back, I am frustrated and I feel violated.
I nearly cried. IT's mine and they can't take it because they feel like it.

I guess you can say their mission is accomplished then.

 

[Bignate603]

Originally posted by: McCartney
that's most likely an american definition because paraphernalia usually has one exclusive purpose.
This has more than one, they didn't see me use it, they seen a bag filled and a nozzle disconnected that can't prove the age of the weed.
If I smoked weed previous to getting arrested then they can't arrest me or confiscate it for smoking marijuana in my old home.
The argument you guys are using basically says if I have a volcano in my car at any time with USED marijuana that I maybe forgot to empty, that a cop has a right to seize it.
He doesn't, he asked my friend to search his car, that gave them the right to take my property?
I think not.

You sir, have fried too many brain cells. Whatever Canadian law calls it they have a law that allows them to seize items used in a crime. They may call it paraphernalia, offense related property, or some other name, but it doesn't change the fact that they can take it. If you threaten somebody with a knife they can take your knife and you'll never see it again. Heck, if you threatened them with a gold brick they could take it and keep it.

As soon as you use an item in a crime the cops can take it and you will never see it again. For you to get that thing back you need to prove you were not using it to smoke pot. Good luck with that.

 

[Reckoner]

It's okay Paul McCartney. Right a song to wash those tears away. You can afford a new bong!

 

[McCartney]

Um first of all I don't know who told you I CONSENTED< because I didnt.
And we will see.
I am going to come back here when I get it back.
It's just like the fools who told me I couldn't get unbanned from wow when I was permabanned twice.

You guys just love giving lazy answers and upping your post counts, and instead of actually proving how the vaporizer is paraphernalia you guys are stating the one time I used it "illegally" is the time they're allowed to confiscate it.
They're not.
I'm going back to my driving analogy.
We hadn't used it to get high at that point.
We were going to commit a crime but we hadn't.
About to smoke marijuana from a bag isn't a crime.
So if it wasn't used at the time to commit this "crime" then it shouldn't ahve been seized.

My argument is this, they didn't see me use or smoke marijuana from it, instead they found the joint that was responsible for the smell...
So how is it allowed to be confiscated?

 

[Aquaman]

Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
It's okay Paul McCartney. Right a song to wash those tears away. You can afford a new bong!

Not after 1 leg Heather took some of his bank

Cheers,
Aquaman

 

[BrokenVisage]

Does Gieco offer Bong Insurance as an option yet? That'd be the way to go if it's always in the car, ya'know? :thumbsup:

lol but seriously, it's not worth doing shit like this with something that expensive.

 

[McCartney]

Originally posted by: RyanSengara

Originally posted by: McCartney

Originally posted by: RyanSengara

Originally posted by: montag451
OP
Do yourself a favour and don't look at any more posts after this one.

Obviously not many ppl posting to this thread have bothered reading it.
Also, not many know the law in Canada.
Also, a fair percentage of them are going 'oh my god its illegal in my country so it is bad blah blah blah you evil mofo'

So, do yourself a favour - get a lawyer and ignore everything else in this thread cos you'll just get upset.
Good luck

Well, I do, I live in Canada, and Vancouver is the mary-jane capital of Canada, and probably the biggest jane smoking city outside of Amsterdam.

The fact is what the kid did was illegal, despite our liberal policy, using paraphenilia to get high is grounds for seizure.

They should also be happy their car wasn't seized so they wouldn't drive it home while intoxicated.

It wasn't my car dumbass.
Go read the official post before you start yapping.
A volcano isn't drug paraphernalia so I think you're just stupid.
I'm not african american either.
So parphernalia to get high is illegal? Is that why Edmonton Police told me they wouldn't and can't confiscate it?
GG you fail at reading. Go smoke some more bc-bud.

Who cares if it wasn't your car, if you guys drove after smoking it would be a DUI.
Your volcano was used for the purposes of smoking mary-jane, it's able to be seized.
You didn't get the reference to the famed 'black guy avy' on ATOT, go kill yourself.
Yes paraphenelia used as an accessory to getting high is illegal if you are using it in the process of getting high.

You fail at life for posting this thread </yourself> but you're from Edmonton, thats almost a prison sentence already.

Epic fail. Paraphernalia used as an accessory? How about it's not paraphernalia and it's not used as an accessory. How about it's equipment that has more than one purpose and I should be allowed to get it back? This isn't a knife that deals bodily harm, this is a god damn vaporizer that is used for more than just marijuana. A knife has a cut and dry purpose. It cuts.
A vaporizer has a cut and dry purpose, it's a humidifier for herbs/plants.

If a knife is used in a crime, it's likely to KILL someone and its' going to confiscated as evidence.
If a vaporizer is used to smoke marijuana, none of which was scene or observed at the point of seizure. (The original reason we were even harassed by these officers is due to trespassing). They had a smell from a joint which prompted them to ask to search the car.
My vaporizer? A bag had been filled but not used. So basically if someone uses a knife in a crime there is a real purpose as to why it's seized. If a car is stolen it's seized as evidence once found. My vaporizer was seized when there was a crime committed from an independent source and thus if my accessory hadn't been the origin for the reason to get the marijuana confiscated, then why take it?
That's like me taking a knife from someone because I Think they're going to kill someone. What is your basis for killing someone? By looking at them or ordering them around for 5 minutes?

 

[waggy]

hahahah man. proof right here that pot is bad for you! you may end up like McCartney!

 

[BoomerD]

http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/s...gthannual=50&length=50

"PART I
OFFENCES AND PUNISHMENT
Particular Offences
Possession of substance

4. (1) Except as authorized under the regulations, no person shall possess a substance included in Schedule I, II or III.

Obtaining substance

(2) No person shall seek or obtain
(a) a substance included in Schedule I, II, III or IV, or

(b) an authorization to obtain a substance included in Schedule I, II, III or IV

from a practitioner, unless the person discloses to the practitioner particulars relating to the acquisition by the person of every substance in those Schedules, and of every authorization to obtain such substances, from any other practitioner within the preceding thirty days.

 

[McCartney]

Right Waggy because I'm not going to be finishing my Physics BSc really soon here right?
Nice.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: McCartney
Right Waggy because I'm not going to be finishing my Physics BSc really soon here right?
Nice.

uh huh sure you are.

 

[aphex]

Originally posted by: McCartney
I wasn't in public.
We were on a dirt road in my friend's SUV.
I'm 20, and in Canada it's not as big of an offense as it is in USA>
Plus they have to a legit platform to take away a 700 dollar machine.

lol, you weren't in public? Do you even know what public is?

Main Entry:
1pub·lic
Pronunciation:
\'p?-blik\
Function:
adjective
Etymology:
Middle English publique, from Anglo-French, from Latin publicus; akin to Latin populus people
Date:
14th century

1 a: exposed to general view

Taken from http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/public

Yea, pretty sure that sitting in an SUV on a random dirt road smoking some weed is considered to be in public.

Next time, do that shit at home. Lesson learned.

 

[Bignate603]

It's called reasonable suspicion. Marijuana is obviously illegal. When paired with everything needed to use it in a vaporizer they can reasonably assume that the vaporizer is an offense related piece of property which opens it up to be seized. To get it back you need to prove that it was not used to smoke marijuana which will be next to impossible.

It's debatable whether or not they should have confiscated it because you hadn't started using it yet, and were only getting it ready. However, they now have it. Honestly, there's no good way of proving that it wasn't being used for what they were suspecting.

 

[RbSX]

Originally posted by: McCartney

Originally posted by: RyanSengara

Originally posted by: McCartney

Originally posted by: RyanSengara

Originally posted by: montag451
OP
Do yourself a favour and don't look at any more posts after this one.

Obviously not many ppl posting to this thread have bothered reading it.
Also, not many know the law in Canada.
Also, a fair percentage of them are going 'oh my god its illegal in my country so it is bad blah blah blah you evil mofo'

So, do yourself a favour - get a lawyer and ignore everything else in this thread cos you'll just get upset.
Good luck

Well, I do, I live in Canada, and Vancouver is the mary-jane capital of Canada, and probably the biggest jane smoking city outside of Amsterdam.

The fact is what the kid did was illegal, despite our liberal policy, using paraphenilia to get high is grounds for seizure.

They should also be happy their car wasn't seized so they wouldn't drive it home while intoxicated.

It wasn't my car dumbass.
Go read the official post before you start yapping.
A volcano isn't drug paraphernalia so I think you're just stupid.
I'm not african american either.
So parphernalia to get high is illegal? Is that why Edmonton Police told me they wouldn't and can't confiscate it?
GG you fail at reading. Go smoke some more bc-bud.

Who cares if it wasn't your car, if you guys drove after smoking it would be a DUI.
Your volcano was used for the purposes of smoking mary-jane, it's able to be seized.
You didn't get the reference to the famed 'black guy avy' on ATOT, go kill yourself.
Yes paraphenelia used as an accessory to getting high is illegal if you are using it in the process of getting high.

You fail at life for posting this thread </yourself> but you're from Edmonton, thats almost a prison sentence already.

Epic fail. Paraphernalia used as an accessory? How about it's not paraphernalia and it's not used as an accessory. How about it's equipment that has more than one purpose and I should be allowed to get it back? This isn't a knife that deals bodily harm, this is a god damn vaporizer that is used for more than just marijuana. A knife has a cut and dry purpose. It cuts.
A vaporizer has a cut and dry purpose, it's a humidifier for herbs/plants.

If a knife is used in a crime, it's likely to KILL someone and its' going to confiscated as evidence.
If a vaporizer is used to smoke marijuana, none of which was scene or observed at the point of seizure. (The original reason we were even harassed by these officers is due to trespassing). They had a smell from a joint which prompted them to ask to search the car.
My vaporizer? A bag had been filled but not used. So basically if someone uses a knife in a crime there is a real purpose as to why it's seized. If a car is stolen it's seized as evidence once found. My vaporizer was seized when there was a crime committed from an independent source and thus if my accessory hadn't been the origin for the reason to get the marijuana confiscated, then why take it?
That's like me taking a knife from someone because I Think they're going to kill someone. What is your basis for killing someone? By looking at them or ordering them around for 5 minutes?

:roll:

DIAF, preferably in a hole in the ground.

 

[Bignate603]

Originally posted by: McCartney
Right Waggy because I'm not going to be finishing my Physics BSc really soon here right?
Nice.

My opinion of canadian schools just went down a few notches.

 

[potato28]

Find a better spot, shouldn't be that hard to do. Just find a forest, park the car somewheres nearby but not right where you are and go find a little area to smoke up in. You might be able to get that bong back though, just keep calling and asking.

 

[RbSX]

Originally posted by: Bignate603

Originally posted by: McCartney
Right Waggy because I'm not going to be finishing my Physics BSc really soon here right?
Nice.

My opinion of canadian schools just went down a few notches.

He probably goes to UofA, which doesn't count as a school.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Originally posted by: RyanSengara

Originally posted by: Bignate603

Originally posted by: McCartney
Right Waggy because I'm not going to be finishing my Physics BSc really soon here right?
Nice.

My opinion of canadian schools just went down a few notches.

He probably goes to UofA, which doesn't count as a school.

Looked it up on Wiki. I don't get it

 

[karan2008]

if the cops catch u with marijuana they will take u to jail right away in USA

 

[Scouzer]

Originally posted by: RyanSengara

Originally posted by: Bignate603

Originally posted by: McCartney
Right Waggy because I'm not going to be finishing my Physics BSc really soon here right?
Nice.

My opinion of canadian schools just went down a few notches.

He probably goes to UofA, which doesn't count as a school.

:disgust:

enough of your edmonton hating crap. this guy is not representative of the average edmontonian.

 

[potato28]

Originally posted by: karan2008
if the cops catch u with marijuana they will take u to jail right away in USA

Yes, but in Canada it could almost be considered legal. Thats just how lax the laws are on possessing and growing,

 

[potato28]

Originally posted by: tenshodo13

Originally posted by: RyanSengara

Originally posted by: Bignate603

Originally posted by: McCartney
Right Waggy because I'm not going to be finishing my Physics BSc really soon here right?
Nice.

My opinion of canadian schools just went down a few notches.

He probably goes to UofA, which doesn't count as a school.

Looked it up on Wiki. I don't get it

UBC kills UoA at everything, but U of T kills UBC

 

[RbSX]

Originally posted by: tenshodo13

Originally posted by: RyanSengara

Originally posted by: Bignate603

Originally posted by: McCartney
Right Waggy because I'm not going to be finishing my Physics BSc really soon here right?
Nice.

My opinion of canadian schools just went down a few notches.

He probably goes to UofA, which doesn't count as a school.

Looked it up on Wiki. I don't get it

UofA is the bastard child of the 'larger' post secondary schools in Canada