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RbSX

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Originally posted by: potato28
Originally posted by: tenshodo13
Originally posted by: RyanSengara
Originally posted by: Bignate603
Originally posted by: McCartney
Right Waggy because I'm not going to be finishing my Physics BSc really soon here right?
Nice.

My opinion of canadian schools just went down a few notches.

He probably goes to UofA, which doesn't count as a school.

Looked it up on Wiki. I don't get it

UBC kills UoA at everything, but U of T kills UBC

Except that UofT is in Toronto which is a major negative.
 

McCartney

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Originally posted by: potato28
Find a better spot, shouldn't be that hard to do. Just find a forest, park the car somewheres nearby but not right where you are and go find a little area to smoke up in. You might be able to get that bong back though, just keep calling and asking.

I'm going to apply for a license.
I have significant psychological evaluations that substantiate my case.
These motherfuckers aren't getting my vaporizer.

I have ADHD and I have anxiety.
My ADHD is mixed type, the problem is that my amphetamines can only do so much.
So far I've tried every single stimulant in Canada that is used to treat ADHD and none of them have the ability to normalize my TOVA score (It's a cognitive test of attention and hyperactivity). As is the case with alot of ADHD kids, they get a mixed bag of other conditions. I just so happened to have anxiety as well. I think it's genetic but nonetheless I have the unfortunate condition with another one. How does this affect me? Imagine studying for a test, imagine writing that test and then dwelling on what you could have done better. For everyone it goes away after a few hours after writing the test and they're followed by relief.
Me? Not so.
I am consistently hamstrung by the thought of doing poorly on exams. I'm not the type of person who is striving for A+s at all, infact I'd say my work ethic is mediocre at best. I don't know why but I want to relax but I can't. I can't unwind, instead I have to consistently dwell on the examination and it consumes me. Imagine this type of lifestyle in University during midterm week. Regardless of my ability to perform on an examination (or not), I will not let it go. I just can't. I've tried numerous coping strategies and I refuse to take benzodiazepenes because I'm currently taking stimulants and I'd like something with shorter half life.

Right now my situation may be laughable to you; I haven't done marijuana much believe it or not. About 13 times since I didn't do it much until recently. I've found that after my stimulant medication wears off the marijuana provides the ability for me to relax, and not be significantly impaired. The best part is it allows me to sleep in peace and for that time I am under the influence, I have the ability to get away from it all.

I have tried many medications, and I don't want to take any more pills as it is. I feel taking amphetamines to even control my cognitive impairment is enough, and now to take away a vaporizer that wasn't being used everyday, but at times where it could help me unwind is ridiculous.

What bothers me most is how you all think I'm some stoner and you laugh at my situation. Infact it irritates me more than you'd think. I do not like being pushed as a waste to society. I put my best foot forward and I usually try to be a good person, but that all changes when people start insulting me and saying I'm a whiner. I'm not a whiner. If you had to deal with what I go through then you'd understand. Everyone in America has ADHD yet they can mysteriously pull As on their final exams or exams with minor medication. How come me, mr badguy, takes alot of Amphetamines, studies twice as hard, does worse?
Stupid mistakes, they continually bite me and then they follow me home.
I have the misfortune of not being able to stop thinking, i consistently think and I want to go away. Marijuana was actually pretty useful in my findings to suppress this consistent analysis and thought process.
I wouldn't look at a wall and calculate stupid and useless things about it's properties, I'm actually calm and normal. On my medication I still get asked "what'd you have dude? ADD?". It's quite insulting. You guys wouldn't understand anyways, 95 percent of you are normal with medication. I"M NOT, accepting people who don't fit the norm should be reason enough to allow someone to alternatively solve their situation.
Take more ADHD meds? I become clinically depressed, I do not talk and I am dejected. I hate my environment and I look forward to sleeping. Yes I'm on that fine of a line when it comes to medications.. Imagine benzodiazepenes with their massive half life? I don't want to deal with it.

Take my situation as a grain of salt since that's all you guys are doing anyways, but I'm not your casual stoner who does it because it's fun. I do it because it helps me stop thinking for that period, which to me is ultimate tranquility.
 

TheGizmo

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Originally posted by: Ns1
you're an idiot

on the plus side, this means you can get a super vapezilla, a far superior device to the volcano

no way
volcano > super vapezilla

much better in fact

Originally posted by: preslove
Who the fuck uses a vaporizer in a car?

Some people are too stupid to use drugs correctly.

seriously.. I would never take a volcano into a car.



 

mb

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Originally posted by: McCartney
Originally posted by: potato28
Find a better spot, shouldn't be that hard to do. Just find a forest, park the car somewheres nearby but not right where you are and go find a little area to smoke up in. You might be able to get that bong back though, just keep calling and asking.


I have ADHD and I have anxiety.

You don't have ADHD, you're just not smart. Sorry.
 

McCartney

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Originally posted by: mb
Originally posted by: McCartney
Originally posted by: potato28
Find a better spot, shouldn't be that hard to do. Just find a forest, park the car somewheres nearby but not right where you are and go find a little area to smoke up in. You might be able to get that bong back though, just keep calling and asking.


I have ADHD and I have anxiety.

You don't have ADHD, you're just not smart. Sorry.

Typical.
Keep bashing. I'm done with this thread.
Thanks for all the help to those who actually did because there were a few of you.
 

Capt Caveman

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Originally posted by: McCartney
Originally posted by: mb
Originally posted by: McCartney
Originally posted by: potato28
Find a better spot, shouldn't be that hard to do. Just find a forest, park the car somewheres nearby but not right where you are and go find a little area to smoke up in. You might be able to get that bong back though, just keep calling and asking.


I have ADHD and I have anxiety.

You don't have ADHD, you're just not smart. Sorry.

Typical.
Keep bashing. I'm done with this thread.
Thanks for all the help to those who actually did because there were a few of you.

What were you expecting? You want legal advice on a technical forum.
 

mb

Lifer
Jun 27, 2004
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Originally posted by: McCartney
Originally posted by: mb
Originally posted by: McCartney
Originally posted by: potato28
Find a better spot, shouldn't be that hard to do. Just find a forest, park the car somewheres nearby but not right where you are and go find a little area to smoke up in. You might be able to get that bong back though, just keep calling and asking.


I have ADHD and I have anxiety.

You don't have ADHD, you're just not smart. Sorry.

Typical.
Keep bashing. I'm done with this thread.
Thanks for all the help to those who actually did because there were a few of you.

Huzzah!
 
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What makes you think that people in America with ADHD doesn't try as hard or harder than you to get good grades without resorting to Weed? I also have a form of ADHD, it messes with a crap load of things. For one, I can't write properly. I've taken writing therapy classes for it, it just hasn't improved. I'm also constantly overthinking things. I agonize about tests and exams. I still remember that goddamn math test I took years ago, and failed it. (though I admit that might be because I've been ingrained to believe doing bad on a test is the end of the world)I'm obscenely paranoid. And a crap load of things that mess with me. I've been fairly depressed for 2 years now. I always think about things that I did wrong with my life. That time I chose not to study for the finals, that time I chose not to take that 4 mile run.

I've never taken any drugs, legal or illegal, to cure my symptoms. You know why? 1. I don't feel like it. 2. I know that I can fix things myself. I mean, if I'm not going to take legal meds, why take an illegal one? Its the same poison (Not literally mind you) I cope with my ADHD. I type everything I can, I play video games to take my mind off things, go out with friends, talk about politics/philosophy.

You're no different from many other college bound students or graduate school bound students who agonize for months over things that are best left forgotten. The fact that you believe that Weed is the cure for all your problems is a sign that you're weak. Grades not high enough? Study Harder. If you're always agonizing about tests, study so that you don't have to. Agonize about that 1 problem, it might breed some good habits in troubleshooting problems. The drugs that exist are there for a reason. While you may have some special form of ADHD that can't be fully cured, a generic regiment of drugs that are taken correctly will minimize side effects while reducing your ADHD to levels that are easily controllled

And even with your ADHD, it doesn't excuse you for being RETARDED enough to smoke weed in public on the side of the road. We're not criticizing your medical needs, we're criticizing the fact that you are whining about something that is CLEARLY ILLEGAL, and REFUSE to recognize the term REASONABLE SUSPICION. It might be different if you were sitting at home, trying to study, and you light up a bong while the SWAT crashes into your window, but its not. Its just a couple of guys doing weed in public, and a whining guy who bought and unneeded expensive toy, and got it taken away.


Also, you say you have medical evidence to substantiate your case. What re you going to say?

"Judge, I have evidence that I have ADHD and NEED my vaporizer to help it "

"What ADHD Drug is there that is used with a Vaporizer"

"Err.. well.. weed"

"Its illegal"

"Yes, but I have proof that I NEED IT"

"Get out of here"
 

imported_Imp

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I think medical marijuana is legal in Canada. I've seen a lot about "needing" it for the ADHD, but I don't recall seeing it being prescribed. If it was, then are your 'buddies' also ADHD'd or are you their dealer... Also, using a $700 "volcano" to administer this 'medically necessary' drug seems wrong.
 

BeauJangles

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You might be done with this thread, but I just want to clarify one last thing.

You insist you never "consented" to a search. First, if you're in a car parked on a road and the cops come up and smell weed that's reasonable suspicion right there and they <read>DON'T NEED YOUR CONSENT</read>. DESPITE that fact, you said one of your friends gave them consent to search the vehicle - THAT INCLUDES YOU AND YOUR STUFF.
 

McCartney

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Originally posted by: tenshodo13
What makes you think that people in America with ADHD doesn't try as hard or harder than you to get good grades without resorting to Weed? I also have a form of ADHD, it messes with a crap load of things. For one, I can't write properly. I've taken writing therapy classes for it, it just hasn't improved. I'm also constantly overthinking things. I agonize about tests and exams. I still remember that goddamn math test I took years ago, and failed it. (though I admit that might be because I've been ingrained to believe doing bad on a test is the end of the world)I'm obscenely paranoid. And a crap load of things that mess with me. I've been fairly depressed for 2 years now. I always think about things that I did wrong with my life. That time I chose not to study for the finals, that time I chose not to take that 4 mile run.

I've never taken any drugs, legal or illegal, to cure my symptoms. You know why? 1. I don't feel like it. 2. I know that I can fix things myself. I mean, if I'm not going to take legal meds, why take an illegal one? Its the same poison (Not literally mind you) I cope with my ADHD. I type everything I can, I play video games to take my mind off things, go out with friends, talk about politics/philosophy.

You're no different from many other college bound students or graduate school bound students who agonize for months over things that are best left forgotten. The fact that you believe that Weed is the cure for all your problems is a sign that you're weak. Grades not high enough? Study Harder. If you're always agonizing about tests, study so that you don't have to. Agonize about that 1 problem, it might breed some good habits in troubleshooting problems. The drugs that exist are there for a reason. While you may have some special form of ADHD that can't be fully cured, a generic regiment of drugs that are taken correctly will minimize side effects while reducing your ADHD to levels that are easily controllled

And even with your ADHD, it doesn't excuse you for being RETARDED enough to smoke weed in public on the side of the road. We're not criticizing your medical needs, we're criticizing the fact that you are whining about something that is CLEARLY ILLEGAL, and REFUSE to recognize the term REASONABLE SUSPICION. It might be different if you were sitting at home, trying to study, and you light up a bong while the SWAT crashes into your window, but its not. Its just a couple of guys doing weed in public, and a whining guy who bought and unneeded expensive toy, and got it taken away.


Also, you say you have medical evidence to substantiate your case. What re you going to say?

"Judge, I have evidence that I have ADHD and NEED my vaporizer to help it "

"What ADHD Drug is there that is used with a Vaporizer"

"Err.. well.. weed"

"Its illegal"

"Yes, but I have proof that I NEED IT"

"Get out of here"

Thanks for your advice.
I clearly identify with your situation. I choose to take medication because my ability to use unmedicated techniques hasn't worked for my whole life. I am not depressed and I hope I never will be. I'm just happy to know there's someone else out there that suffers from what lots of people think is a joke disability.
I'm just going to apply for a card with a psychiatrist approving my choice and get my vaporizer back.
That'll show them.
 

AccruedExpenditure

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Wow, is this guy still talking? You realize you spent have the day getting bashed by a forum after the police took away your Vaporizer. Masochism much?
 

Bignate603

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If you know that pot truly helps your condition you should go talk to your doctor. While they may not give you medicinal marijuana they might be able to find something that gives a similar effect without the obvious legal issues.

It's pretty obvious that you're stressing out about this. Flipping out on a tech forum on the internet is a pretty sure fire way of getting made fun of, it's sad but it's the truth.

Next time, talk this sort of stuff over with a friend face to face. It'll save you some grief.
 

TallBill

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Originally posted by: Bignate603
If you know that pot truly helps your condition you should go talk to your doctor. While they may not give you medicinal marijuana they might be able to find something that gives a similar effect without the obvious legal issues.

It's pretty obvious that you're stressing out about this. Flipping out on a tech forum on the internet is a pretty sure fire way of getting made fun of, it's sad but it's the truth.

Next time, talk this sort of stuff over with a friend face to face. It'll save you some grief.

lulz
 

BeauJangles

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Originally posted by: McCartney
I'm just going to apply for a card with a psychiatrist approving my choice and get my vaporizer back.
That'll show them.

You aren't getting the vaporizer back. It was taken when you and your buddies were busted smoking weed.

Seriously, I wasn't going to say this until now, but you need to grow up. Saying "that'll show them" is what a 14 year old does. The cops aren't out to take your shit because they want it for themselves, they're doing their freaking jobs and you and your friends were a bunch of retards for pulling over to smoke up on a public road.

The facts (from an objective perspective):
You were in a car with friends smoking weed on a public road.
You had something that can be used to smoke weed, as well as bagged weed.
With that information alone, the cops could have chosen to search your car.
Despite that, your friend consented to a search of the vehicle, which includes all passengers and their possessions in the car.

Grow up and chalk up the loss of your vaporizer as a lesson. You could be in much deeper shit right now, and, yet, you refuse to recognize that. The cops treated you fairly.

The final thing I have to say to you is that your attitude about this situation is awful. If you had come on this forum asking a serious question about whether you'd see your precious again, you might have received some mature replies. Instead, you've managed to whine your way through nearly 200 posts and continue to deny you did anything wrong. I'm sorry you have the issues you have, but those issues don't make you above the law - PARTICULARLY when you smoke in public!
 

McCartney

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From what perspective do you say I'm not getting my Vaporizer back BlinderBomber.
Are you a lawyer? I'm asking because you seem very certain and I'd like to know.

Thx
 

Born2bwire

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: McCartney
I am actually not smoking marijuana until I get my fucking vaporizer back, I am frustrated and I feel violated.
I nearly cried. IT's mine and they can't take it because they feel like it.

Our definition of paraphernalia isn't the american one.

hahaha damn. you sound worse then my 5 yr old.

It's official, this guy is my favorite troll. Move over Casiotech!

And what the fuck kind of doctor prescribes weed for ADHD? Seriously?
 

Canai

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Originally posted by: McCartney
From what perspective do you say I'm not getting my Vaporizer back BlinderBomber.
Are you a lawyer? I'm asking because you seem very certain and I'd like to know.

Thx

If you got caught with ANY paraphernalia that had THC residue in it it stops being legal paraphernalia and starts being drug paraphernalia. The FIRST time you use the vap, there is residue left behind.

You *might* have a case if the vap was in a box unused, but since you had used it previously there's no way you can get it back.

I have to hand it to you though... you're an idiot for using a bag vap in public.

I think I shall take this moment to make some sort of joke about Canadians being stupid or something.
 

deepred98

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dude the reason you get a vape is so you can chill in your house and 'medicate' without the smoke and smell

if you're driving around you might as well just hit a joint or bowl
 

Toastedlightly

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Originally posted by: Canai
Originally posted by: McCartney
From what perspective do you say I'm not getting my Vaporizer back BlinderBomber.
Are you a lawyer? I'm asking because you seem very certain and I'd like to know.

Thx

If you got caught with ANY paraphernalia that had THC residue in it it stops being legal paraphernalia and starts being drug paraphernalia. The FIRST time you use the vap, there is residue left behind.

You *might* have a case if the vap was in a box unused, but since you had used it previously there's no way you can get it back.

I have to hand it to you though... you're an idiot for using a bag vap in public.

I think I shall take this moment to make some sort of joke about Canadians being stupid or something.

You meant to say...

In Cananda, weed comes in bags.
 

KingGheedora

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Originally posted by: McCartney
that's most likely an american definition because paraphernalia usually has one exclusive purpose.
This has more than one, they didn't see me use it, they seen a bag filled and a nozzle disconnected that can't prove the age of the weed.
If I smoked weed previous to getting arrested then they can't arrest me or confiscate it for smoking marijuana in my old home.
The argument you guys are using basically says if I have a volcano in my car at any time with USED marijuana that I maybe forgot to empty, that a cop has a right to seize it.
He doesn't, he asked my friend to search his car, that gave them the right to take my property?
I think not.

That's pretty much how it works, actually. According to the link someone posted about canadian law, you are considered to be in possession (of MJ) because you were hanging out with people who you knew had some on their person / in the car. You even said there was a gram in some part of your vaporizer. You are whining that because they didn't catch you in the act of using the thing that they can't take it away.

I'm not yelling at you or calling you a moron or saying the police had the right to take it away because I don't know that. But it does sound like they didn't do anything wrong. In the US if you get pulled over for possession (or even caught in public walking in the park), the police can and do make you throw away your weed, and have been known to make you throw your pipe on the floor and step on it, or throw it away. Of course you could also get arrested, or get a citation, depends on the state, and the officer. So even if you had never used the pipe to smoke, they can take it away because it is paraphernalia.

You know your Volcano is used for weed, so just give it up. Have you ever used it to smoke weed before? If so you have no grounds for arguing this, even if you did plan to use it for non-weed smoking purposes in the future.
 

ICRS

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Do you have a friend who is a doctor, have them prescripe you the volcano and say it is needed for xxxxx, and pre date it from before the ticket.
 

TipsyMcStagger

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All of this happened because you decided to get high in some car. Next time go inside. Problem solved. Consider losing the volcano as your payment of the "stupid tax."
 
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