Got nailed by a redlight camera due to a rolling stop.

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Chryso

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Originally posted by: NSFW
I mean seriously...I am all in favor of safe driving and accountability, but this is getting out of hand. Traffic laws were designed to keep people safe, not be a source of income.

I don't understand the problem.
If you obey the law then they won't be a source of income.
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: GoodRevrnd
How do you plead no contest to a traffic ticket??

you serious?

The way it works is you get X number of self-elected driver schools, however; the court can give you as many in a lifetime as needed.

You go to court and you plea this. You aren't saying your are guilty or not, just accepting the courts offer without objection.

They usually do traffic school, court costs and no points. You save the points in return for paying a little extra. You also don't lose any of you self-elected traffic school chances.

When one pays a 'ticket clinic' this is usually all they do for you...for $80-100 it's worth it to many to not have to sit in court and the chance that the lawyer may find a technicality and get you off with nothing.
 

Illusio

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Nov 28, 1999
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Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
Originally posted by: Fritzo
Learn to drive, these things won't happen to you.

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Don't run red lights?

Originally posted by: Baked
Learn to drive more please.

Originally posted by: zerocool84
How about not rolling through a stop/red light. You know you're not supposed to do that and you did it. Own up.

Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: djheater
Thus, I owe the city $100 for a moving violation 2.5 years after my last one, and will pay it, and dutifully endeavor never to use that intersection again.

How about you dutifully endeavor to properly stop at a red light?

You guys are awesome drivers, every last one of you. Everyone else here is so worthless compared to you.

It's the ATOT Holier-Than-Thou Crew representin'! No traffic ticket thread would be the same without them.

where would we be without our message board paladins. :roll:
 

Illusio

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Originally posted by: halik
was it a "no turn on red" intersection?

Not the red light camera by my house.

The worse part is, in IL, they can't take pictures of drivers faces. So there is no way they can actually prove it was you driving the car.

So much for innocent until proven guilty...
 

oznerol

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I really hate it when people don't come to a stop at a red light/stop sign before making a right turn. Really, it's not that hard to do.

I've seen so many accidents because people roll through, it is ridiculous.

I hate speed traps and other income generating nonsense the city does to catch drivers, but stopping at a red light is really fundamentally for the safety of everyone.
 

SagaLore

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Dec 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
Originally posted by: Fritzo
Learn to drive, these things won't happen to you.

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Don't run red lights?

Originally posted by: Baked
Learn to drive more please.

Originally posted by: zerocool84
How about not rolling through a stop/red light. You know you're not supposed to do that and you did it. Own up.

Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: djheater
Thus, I owe the city $100 for a moving violation 2.5 years after my last one, and will pay it, and dutifully endeavor never to use that intersection again.

How about you dutifully endeavor to properly stop at a red light?

You guys are awesome drivers, every last one of you. Everyone else here is so worthless compared to you.

It's the ATOT Holier-Than-Thou Crew representin'! No traffic ticket thread would be the same without them.

If I break a traffic rule, and get caught, I either pay the fine or do what I can to get out of the fine. But I don't get on ATOT and complain how the system is out to get me and nothing is fair.
 

oznerol

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Originally posted by: SagaLore
If I break a traffic rule, and get caught, I either pay the fine or do what I can to get out of the fine. But I don't get on ATOT and complain how the system is out to get me and nothing is fair.

People just need an outlet to vent. Being the L&R moderator, I'm sure you're aware of this as much as anybody.

Life will go on.
 

dainthomas

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Dec 7, 2004
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Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
Originally posted by: Fritzo
Learn to drive, these things won't happen to you.

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Don't run red lights?

Originally posted by: Baked
Learn to drive more please.

Originally posted by: zerocool84
How about not rolling through a stop/red light. You know you're not supposed to do that and you did it. Own up.

Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: djheater
Thus, I owe the city $100 for a moving violation 2.5 years after my last one, and will pay it, and dutifully endeavor never to use that intersection again.

How about you dutifully endeavor to properly stop at a red light?

You guys are awesome drivers, every last one of you. Everyone else here is so worthless compared to you.

It's the ATOT Holier-Than-Thou Crew representin'! No traffic ticket thread would be the same without them.

If I break a traffic rule, and get caught, I either pay the fine or do what I can to get out of the fine. But I don't get on ATOT and complain how the system is out to get me and nothing is fair.

Thanks for failing at reading, the OP admitted to not stopping. I'm sure the OP is aware that coming to a full stop at the right turn would have resulted in no ticket. But instead of just letting him complain you have to add yet another "clever" comment about obeying the law. How original.
 

SagaLore

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Dec 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: dainthomas
Thanks for failing at reading, the OP admitted to not stopping. I'm sure the OP is aware that coming to a full stop at the right turn would have resulted in no ticket. But instead of just letting him complain you have to add yet another "clever" comment about obeying the law. How original.

Oh I'm sorry, I thought the purpose of a forum is to encourage replies to the OP.
 

waggy

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Dec 14, 2000
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I have NO sympathy for the OP. you did something wrong and got nailed for it.

BUT red light cameras are nothing more then a scam. A few states have been nailed for reducing the yellow lights. hell one place even turned them off because so many poeple knew about it revenu was down to much to support it. Even though it was a "deadly" intersection and needed it.

 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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people like to take my driving the wrong way. In the city and neighborhoods and ESP PARKING LOTS, I come to complete stops and take a look prior to going. A kid on a bike can easily assume he is clear and doesn't realize you are turning...or someone's pet....

People blow through stop signs and lights too often and too quickly. Sure you can do this 10,000 times with no incident, but all it takes is that one time you kill or maim someone over an extra 2-5 seconds.
 

imported_six

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Originally posted by: Fayd
Originally posted by: six
There's no such thing as a three second rule in California. A rookie cop ticketed me for failing to stop completely for three seconds in San Diego. I took the morning off work to contested that in court. The judge said "this is only a preliminary hearing, there's no three second rule, how do you plea?" I thought, fuck...I have to come back to court a second time for a trial, so I pleaded no contest, paid $120, and paid another $50 to take driver's ed online.

wow you're dumb. prelim hearings are there to see which cases the judge will throw out. had you pled not guilty, he would have thrown it out.

talk about retarded.


btw, redlight cameras around here have a $351+ ticket.

how the fuck is that fair?


Nope...you're wrong. "Preliminary hearing" for traffic court per the Judge was "go to trail" or "not go to trail." Traffic court is not the same as criminal court. There were a hundred of us packed into a small court room. Most pleaded guilty. The only dismissal was due to a clerical error. Imagine if I really did a rolling stop, went to the preliminary hearing, and said "hey the officer said I didn't stop for three seconds." How's the judge going to know I'm telling the truth. Please watch less TV and live more real life. If I had to do it again, I would have done it through trial by declaration.

Redlight cameras are 100% fair...especially when there are signs warning you ahead of them, and some places even warn you of the $341+ fines. Dunno know about it saving lives, but it sure does prevent people from driving like jackasses.

Originally posted by: GoodRevrnd

How do you plead no contest to a traffic ticket??


I kept asking the judge questions, then he interrupted "how do you plead...guilty, not guilty, no contest?" I said "no contest." Before the preliminary hearings started, the judge even explained you can plead three of the above ways.
 

shortylickens

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Jul 15, 2003
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Originally posted by: Indolent
Originally posted by: RedSquirrelTechnically, at a 4 way stop you actually have to wait like 3 seconds before you move, same for when a light goes green.

Is that some sort of Canadian law? It's not stated in any driver's manual I've ever read.
Gee thats funny, cuz its been in EVERY drivers manual I've ever read. The Minnesota one when I started driving. Then the Florida, California, Virginia and Oregon manuals I read later (as the Navy was moving my happy ass from one place to another).
One of us is reading the wrong books.


Back on topic:
I learned a long time ago traffic violations are only made to increase income for the city. If they were real crimes the cops would haul your happy ass down to the jail and you would learn your lesson the first time. They dont want us to learn our lessons. They want us to pay them, constantly.
The only good side effect of this is I'm white in a town full of illegal aliens. The cops go out of their way to nail as many Mexicans as they can in the hopes of catching someone who doesnt belong here. I'm OK so long as I dont do anything insanely stupid.
 
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