Got tons of money back in taxes! New Video Card question!

[ramj70]

a) you didn't get tons of money, you can't file until Feb 15th

b) you got raped by Hewitt Jackson or H&R block?

c) Rapage amount could've got you a 580GTX

:biggrin:

In regards to A that is only if you itemize your deductions

 

[Ime]

Overclocking is out. I don't do it, and I'm not interested in it. I prefer stability and longevity over brute speed. My opinion is overclocking reduces the life of components.

Another consideration is quiet, I'd prefer a card with an aftermarket cooler attached so my wife doesn't complain about the jet engine noise. We both sit a few feet from my computer, and while I have giant a ear covering headset, she doesn't.

I'm going to try replacing my 4890 with a 6950. If that doesn't fit in my case I'll pick up a 570 and try that out. If that doesn't work, then I may just build a new computer since mine is nearly two years old.

Thanks again for all the advice!

 

[MrK6]

Overclocking is out. I don't do it, and I'm not interested in it. I prefer stability and longevity over brute speed. My opinion is overclocking reduces the life of components.

Another consideration is quiet, I'd prefer a card with an aftermarket cooler attached so my wife doesn't complain about the jet engine noise. We both sit a few feet from my computer, and while I have giant a ear covering headset, she doesn't.

I'm going to try replacing my 4890 with a 6950. If that doesn't fit in my case I'll pick up a 570 and try that out. If that doesn't work, then I may just build a new computer since mine is nearly two years old.

Thanks again for all the advice!

That sounds like a good game plan, let us know how it works out :thumbsup:. Also, you might not need aftermarket cooling - the 6950's seem to be pretty quiet at stock - http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/HIS/Radeon_HD_6950/28.html

 

[tviceman]

Definitely don't want to go with the GTX 570 with any overclocking in mind.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2142801

The cards are exploding from overclocking.

Also overclocking is never a guarantee and you'll void your warranty buying that card and overclocking it.

6950 2GB is your best bet.

And the internet scarez continues!!!! OP, do not fall for the extreme fanboism, lies, and immaturity many of the members here display. MSI, Galaxy, and EVGA all cover user-overclocking in their warranties as is stated on their websites and also conveniently demonstrated by their own overclocking software. Furthermore, a quick look at newegg shows that EVERY SINGLE GTX570 has at least an average 4/5 rating, with the majority having a perfect 5 star rating.

You can get a gtx570 for $310 AR - only $10 over your budget and is easily the best card for it's money.

 

[Ime]

You can get a gtx570 for $310 AR - only $10 over your budget and is easily the best card for it's money.

If the 6950 I just ordered from Newegg doesn't fit (and there seems to be some debate on that issue), then I'll definitely be returning it and picking up a 560 or 570.

 

[MTDEW]

Just measured my Sapphire 6950's and they are 10 3/4 inches long.
Not sure what you purchased (the MSi maybe?) , so it may be longer due to different cooler.
MSi site lists it as 275mm which is darn near 11inches (like 10.8"), but its not specified whether that is the total length from tip to tip, or just the body of the card.
The tip of the shroud to mounting bracket is the measurement you'd need, since looking at pics, the shroud overhangs the pcb.

 

[tviceman]

If the 6950 I just ordered from Newegg doesn't fit (and there seems to be some debate on that issue), then I'll definitely be returning it and picking up a 560 or 570.

If it fits and you like it, then great. The important thing here that I am trying to get across is that you are making your decision based on factual information, and not fabrication based on fanboys bent on witch hunt crusades.

 

[96Firebird]

I doubt the 6950 will fit, but I hope it does since returning can sometimes be a hassle... You'll be happy with either the 6950 or the 570, let's hope the price on the 570 stays low if you need to order it later on...

 

[SickBeast]

IMO for $300 you can't beat a pair of GTX 460s in SLI.

 

[MentalIlness]

a) you didn't get tons of money, you can't file until Feb 15th

b) you got raped by Hewitt Jackson or H&R block?

c) Rapage amount could've got you a 580GTX

:biggrin:

Yes you can. My wife and I file the first week of January every single year for the last 12 years.

Our taxes were back on Jan 9 this year.:biggrin:

 

[MentalIlness]

And the internet scarez continues!!!! OP, do not fall for the extreme fanboism, lies, and immaturity many of the members here display. MSI, Galaxy, and EVGA all cover user-overclocking in their warranties as is stated on their websites and also conveniently demonstrated by their own overclocking software. Furthermore, a quick look at newegg shows that EVERY SINGLE GTX570 has at least an average 4/5 rating, with the majority having a perfect 5 star rating.

You can get a gtx570 for $310 AR - only $10 over your budget and is easily the best card for it's money.

You take Newegg feedback seriously ?

Im sure you read the feedback on there, as do I. Have you noticed how many users state their tech level is 5 ? When in fact, the info that some gives "pros/cons" that quite a few have no clue of what they are talking about.

And probably a majority of the 5 egg ratings, they put the card in, and it works. Also...some leave feedback before they even receive the card.

Point is, Don't believe the feedback on there in a serious manner. I read them myself, but mostly for giggles.

For reviews/feedback...Check reviews/benches.

Also, EVERY SINGLE 6950/6970 card on the Egg, also has a 4-5 rating.

 

[load81]

If you can find a deal this 570 is only 9 inches http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130613

I would send the 6950 back if you have money for a 570. At your resolution its faster than the 6950/6970, has Physx, Cuda, folding, better cooling, quieter, better image quality, and better tessellation for future games. Only reasons I see to get a 6950/6970 over a 570/580 is if you plan on going multi-monitor, multi-card, want lower power consumption, or game at 2560x1600.

 

[cusideabelincoln]

I would send the 6950 back if you have money for a 570. At your resolution its faster than the 6950/6970, has Physx, Cuda, folding, better cooling, quieter, better image quality, and better tessellation for future games. Only reasons I see to get a 6950/6970 over a 570/580 is if you plan on going multi-monitor, multi-card, want lower power consumption, or game at 2560x1600.

Ugh, are you joking? He's paying less for his 6950. If he were to spend $50 more on a 570 then it better be faster...

 

[load81]

Ugh, are you joking? He's paying less for his 6950. If he were to spend $50 more on a 570 then it better be faster...

If you can find a deal

See? I seen 570's go for 315$ already. I'm not going through this with you again. I felt insulted enough last night. This is the last time I will ever reply to you so don't bother quoting me again.

 

[cusideabelincoln]

See? I seen 570's go for 315$ already. I'm not going through this with you again. I felt insulted enough last night. This is the last time I will ever reply to you so don't bother quoting me again.

I wasn't insulting you, but frankly you should be and feel intellectually embarrassed.

So how does a $315 GTX 570 negate what I said? 6950s are as low as $240 (1GB) and $260 (2GB). That's a significant price gap to the GTX 570, so it better be faster.

It's mind-boggling why you are trying to put these cards on a level playing field, because as of right now they aren't. It's like saying "why get an 8 pack of toilet paper when you can get a 12 pack of toilet paper" and not mentioning the 12 pack costs more. You cut off the context of the situation to make one look better than the other in a manner to seem as if it's a no-brainer decision.

 

[load81]

I wasn't insulting you, but frankly you should be and feel intellectually embarrassed.

Considering english isnt my first language and you were twisting my words yet still failed no you embarassed yourself. :biggrin: I seen you post here and every time someone says something you dont like you come back with veiled insults. Only reason i should be embarassed is failing to get through your blind fanboyism. Also the OP asked about the 570 and 6950 why shouldnt i compare them? Because you dont like the results? Wow I dont think Im the one intellectually embarrassed. Now i couldnt resist responding this time but i promise i wont again.

I'm asking a different user. Is there anyway to block someone here?

edit- nevermind i found the ignore feature

Definitely don't want to go with the GTX 570 with any overclocking in mind. The cards are exploding from overclocking. Also overclocking is never a guarantee and you'll void your warranty buying that card and overclocking it.

Using this logic you shouldnt buy any card and overclock it. Not just the 570. I see posts on OCN about other types of cards failing from overclocks.

Seen a few ridiculous and useless posts by you. I love the ignore feature.

 

[3DVagabond]

If you can find a deal this 570 is only 9 inches http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130613

I would send the 6950 back if you have money for a 570. At your resolution its faster than the 6950/6970, has Physx, Cuda, folding, better cooling, quieter, better image quality, and better tessellation for future games. Only reasons I see to get a 6950/6970 over a 570/580 is if you plan on going multi-monitor, multi-card, want lower power consumption, or game at 2560x1600.

Ugh, are you joking? He's paying less for his 6950. If he were to spend $50 more on a 570 then it better be faster...

Yeah, he left that small detail out. The list of positives for the 570 is a bit dubious as well. It doesn't run any cooler, isn't any quieter, and OP said nothing about PhysX, CUDA, or folding. Dx11 games and benches with tessellation on don't show any advantage for the 570 compared to with tessellation off. Other than that though, the 6950 does use less power and it's performance does improve as resolution increases. That part's right.

 

[load81]

Yeah, he left that small detail out. The list of positives for the 570 is a bit dubious as well. It doesn't run any cooler, isn't any quieter, and OP said nothing about PhysX, CUDA, or folding. Dx11 games and benches with tessellation on don't show any advantage for the 570 compared to with tessellation off. Other than that though, the 6950 does use less power and it's performance does improve as resolution increases. That part's right.

Of course the positives of the 6950 are correct but the 570's are not. LOL. Over 45% fan speed the blowers on 6xxx series cards are insanely loud. Check the idle/load temps http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...899-amd-radeon-hd-6970-hd-6950-review-25.html the 570 isnt cooler? Also I thought it was known that fermi is better at tessellation? I'm sorry for listing physx and the other positives of the 570 i didnt mean to upset people who dont have them here comes me vs. 8 amd fans again how dare i list the positives of getting a Nvidia card here

 

[3DVagabond]

Of course the positives of the 6950 are correct but the 570's are not. LOL. Over 45% fan speed the blowers on 6xx series cards are insanely loud. Check the idle/load temps http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...899-amd-radeon-hd-6970-hd-6950-review-25.html the 570 isnt cooler? I'm sorry for listing physx and the other positives of the 570 i didnt mean to upset people who dont have them here comes me vs. 8 amd fans again how dare i list the positives of getting a Nvidia card here

Well, I looked at AT and [H] for my stats. I didn't check every review site on the Web. Since no 2 sites seem to measure sound and temps the same way it's hard to compare. I respect those two sites as being objective though. YMMV. As far as your 8 AMD fans remark, I guess when you can't respond to the post you resort to attacking the poster? Do you even know if the OP has any apps that are coded for CUDA that he uses? If so, then I would say that's a good reason to buy nVidia. Do the games he mentioned that he plays use PhysX?

(6.Which games (If any)do you plan to play and @ which desired detail levels?
MMO's (Wow, Rift Beta, eventually Star Wars: The Old Republic and Guild Wars 2). Ultra Detail Settings on a 1080p monitor.)

Keep it real and try not to make it an AMD rabid Fanboy attack, where none exists.

 

[load81]

Do you even know if the OP has any apps that are coded for CUDA that he uses? If so, then I would say that's a good reason to buy nVidia. Do the games he mentioned that he plays use PhysX?

So I guess with this new card he will never get a new game or app. Its nice to have options and not be limited. And I didnt attack you. You must of missed what happened last night when I was lynched for using the 6950 in an example showing if you mess with the bios any card can fail.

 

[3DVagabond]

So I guess with this new card he will never get a new game or app. Its nice to have options and not be limited. And I didnt attack you. You must of missed what happened last night when I was lynched for using the 6950 in an example showing if you mess with the bios any card can fail.

Well, in spite of what nVidia would like you to believe, it's very likely that he will never use CUDA. It's also not real likely he will use PhysX. It's not used in many games. Then it puts a hurting on your FPS.

I didn't miss your roast yesterday. I wasn't a part of it though.

 

[ivanlbc562]

If you can find a deal this 570 is only 9 inches http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130613

I would send the 6950 back if you have money for a 570. At your resolution its faster than the 6950/6970, has Physx, Cuda, folding, better cooling, quieter, better image quality, and better tessellation for future games. Only reasons I see to get a 6950/6970 over a 570/580 is if you plan on going multi-monitor, multi-card, want lower power consumption, or game at 2560x1600.

That one is also 10.5" It's basically the same as a GTX 570 with the Display Port feature added:sneaky:. Also the GTX 570 HD has a limited 3 year warranty unless register it within the 30 days after purchase and you get upgraded to a lifetime warranty. Just thought I'd get involved for some weird reason. :biggrin:

 

[load81]

That one is also 10.5"

Go to details. Card Dimensions 9" x 4.38" It uses the same cooler as the 560. And 3 year waranty is ok. It will should be replaced by then with the die shrink coming.

 

[ivanlbc562]

A friend of mine has the HD version, it measures 10.5 on a tape measure. hmmm somethings not right. oh well who cares if its 9"-10.5"

EDIT: Oh wait the OP does. Yeah the card is/less than 10.5"

 

[LiuKangBakinPie]

Well, in spite of what nVidia would like you to believe, it's very likely that he will never use CUDA. It's also not real likely he will use PhysX. It's not used in many games. Then it puts a hurting on your FPS.

I didn't miss your roast yesterday. I wasn't a part of it though.

http://forums.adobe.com/thread/609054

100 percent correct