GOTTA LOVE PEOPLE WANTING LCD'S!!!

[mchammer]

Originally posted by: EGGO

Originally posted by: mchammer
For sure. The Sony CRT will beat up on the picture quality of a common LCD TV. For $150.00! People, it's not like you have to go and lift the tv 3 times a day. Also on a CRT HDMI doesn't really matter. The digital to analog conversion can take place in the DVD player or the cable box and then be connected with component cables.

Of course this AT where anyone without a quad and 8 gb of ram will struggle running Photoshop :roll:

*cough* Well for MY work I certainly struggle. I can't stand a lot of CRTs now. In the past year I became sensitive to that high pitch that happens when they turn on. Of course, they're all usually a little older.

I see you are running a Mac, Photoshop on the Mac is 32-bit only right now (CS4). So it can only address 4GB of RAM. I don't know how many cores it will use, I would be surprised if it's more than two.
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ok, your site owns, work is tight - how do you come out of the woodwork when I'm trying to poke fun at the posers around here?

 

[AndroidVageta]

Originally posted by: mchammer

Originally posted by: AndroidVageta
Exactly...I mean, honestly, if I had the space on my desk I would happily stop the use of my LCD for a nice CRT...used to own a Sony Trinitron 22 inch flat CRT and it was absolutely breath taking, especially at 1920x1080...

CRTs are still the superior screen, but damn they just get so big and heavy!

Here I will disagree except for pro graphics work. Like ninjitsu fine arts pro. The current IPS panels are really good now with minimal color shift and good blacks.

For general PC use, the sharpness of a good LCD can really reduce eyestrain. However TN panels blow, especially older ones.

I have a 17" PVA and it's great, except for really dark photos, which is a known limitation of the technology. You need to look a little from the side. But the blacks on this thing are deep, which is nice, since I used to have a Sony FD Trinitron

Except for "pro graphics work"? So you just admitted yourself that CRT picture quality is still superior.

 

[QueBert]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: masterxfob
you probably should consider that that 34" CRT weights probably 3X more than the LCD, takes up 3X more space than the LCD, and probably does not have HDMI inputs.

Not to mention the power\heat consumption on those monsters.

I literally don't know anyone who still has a CRT anything, TV or monitor.

I don't own a TV because television sucks but if I did it would be a CRT. My PC monitor is a CRT, and I would rather get fucked in the ass by a dude with a 12 inch dick than have to use an LCD. I don't care about the extra power consumption, and the size of CRT's isn't a negative to me either. My concern is IQ, and as far as IQ goes a good CRT is still pure win. LCD has a long way to go, I'm sure they'll catch up one day but it's not going to be this year, or probably next year

IQ > everything else. And yes I have owned an LCD, and it was one of those uber panels. The $675 24" Gateway, it was decent but I sold it after about a month because I missed my Trintron.

 

[mchammer]

Originally posted by: AndroidVageta

Originally posted by: mchammer

Originally posted by: AndroidVageta
Exactly...I mean, honestly, if I had the space on my desk I would happily stop the use of my LCD for a nice CRT...used to own a Sony Trinitron 22 inch flat CRT and it was absolutely breath taking, especially at 1920x1080...

CRTs are still the superior screen, but damn they just get so big and heavy!

Here I will disagree except for pro graphics work. Like ninjitsu fine arts pro. The current IPS panels are really good now with minimal color shift and good blacks.

For general PC use, the sharpness of a good LCD can really reduce eyestrain. However TN panels blow, especially older ones.

I have a 17" PVA and it's great, except for really dark photos, which is a known limitation of the technology. You need to look a little from the side. But the blacks on this thing are deep, which is nice, since I used to have a Sony FD Trinitron

Except for "pro graphics work"? So you just admitted yourself that CRT picture quality is still superior.

Well I would say that graphics are a unique form from other PC work like web browsing in that sharpness and focus are not as important. In very few comparisons is one thing clearly better or worse than another, there are different trade-offs that one must match to their intended use.

 

[QueBert]

Originally posted by: mchammer

Originally posted by: AndroidVageta

Originally posted by: mchammer

Originally posted by: AndroidVageta
Exactly...I mean, honestly, if I had the space on my desk I would happily stop the use of my LCD for a nice CRT...used to own a Sony Trinitron 22 inch flat CRT and it was absolutely breath taking, especially at 1920x1080...

CRTs are still the superior screen, but damn they just get so big and heavy!

Here I will disagree except for pro graphics work. Like ninjitsu fine arts pro. The current IPS panels are really good now with minimal color shift and good blacks.

For general PC use, the sharpness of a good LCD can really reduce eyestrain. However TN panels blow, especially older ones.

I have a 17" PVA and it's great, except for really dark photos, which is a known limitation of the technology. You need to look a little from the side. But the blacks on this thing are deep, which is nice, since I used to have a Sony FD Trinitron

Except for "pro graphics work"? So you just admitted yourself that CRT picture quality is still superior.

Well I would say that graphics are a unique form from other PC work like web browsing in that sharpness and focus are not as important. In very few comparisons is one thing clearly better or worse than another, there are different trade-offs that one must match to their intended use.

LCD are liked because of their small size, if CRT's were as thin as LCD's I doubt LCD technology would've been created. Size is important to many, but image wise a good CRT is vastly superior on every level. Sharpness can be argued I'll give LCD people that. But a properly calibrated Diamontron is at worst, close to the LCD. Where IQ wise the LCD won't even be in the same ballpark as the Diamontron. I went from an almost $700 24" Gateway LCD to a 22" CRT I got on Craigslist for $25 bucks. The only trade offs are size, power usage and heat generated. As for Power usage, even if it's 4x as much as an LCD $25 > $675, so it'll take forever in electricity usage for me to actually be paying more. Assuming I ever could get to that point.

 

[AndroidVageta]

Someone who see's it my way! LOL...LCD's aren't bad...I mean, a higher quality panel does result in better IQ...but my main gripe with LCD's are the native resolution BS. If you get a 1920x1200 LCD and run it at anything below that any argument about LCD's being sharper is thrown out the window...thank goodness my LCD is 1680x1050 and I have a high end GPU or running my games at anything below that would look horrible. No need for AA in that case as the jaggies would be blurred enough! But when it comes to near perfect IQ anything other than CRT fails.

In either case, my $150 34 inch Sony CRT can whoop anyone's 32 to whatever inch LCD on this forum hands down. Unless of course someone here has a 1,000,000:1 contrast ratio 120hz 2ms response time LCD...anyone? Didn't think so.

 

[yhelothar]

That's a helluva purchase.
CRT prices have been way down for quite a while now.
I bought a 21" FD Trinitron G520 screen, basically sony's ne plus ultra for $60 two years back. Amazing picture. It looked a lot better than my Dell 2001FP in terms of colors and contrast.
I replaced it now with a 24" PVA panel, and the blacks on this new screen is just gorgeous, I never knew LCD's came so far.
CRTs are still a helluva deal if you don't mind the space.

 

[amicold]

Originally posted by: AndroidVageta
In either case, my $150 34 inch Sony CRT can whoop anyone's 32 to whatever inch LCD on this forum hands down. Unless of course someone here has a 1,000,000:1 contrast ratio 120hz 2ms response time LCD...anyone? Didn't think so.

Good job trying to justify your lack of a budget to anyone. The only thing people can really note between an LCD and CRT is the black level and even that isn't bothersome on new LCDs.

 

[yhelothar]

Originally posted by: amicold

Originally posted by: AndroidVageta
In either case, my $150 34 inch Sony CRT can whoop anyone's 32 to whatever inch LCD on this forum hands down. Unless of course someone here has a 1,000,000:1 contrast ratio 120hz 2ms response time LCD...anyone? Didn't think so.

Good job trying to justify your lack of a budget to anyone. The only thing people can really note between an LCD and CRT is the black level and even that isn't bothersome on new LCDs.

It's still a helluva deal/screen if he doesn't mind the extra space it takes up.

 

[AndroidVageta]

Originally posted by: amicold

Originally posted by: AndroidVageta
In either case, my $150 34 inch Sony CRT can whoop anyone's 32 to whatever inch LCD on this forum hands down. Unless of course someone here has a 1,000,000:1 contrast ratio 120hz 2ms response time LCD...anyone? Didn't think so.

Good job trying to justify your lack of a budget to anyone. The only thing people can really note between an LCD and CRT is the black level and even that isn't bothersome on new LCDs.

OH I forgot to mention better color reproduction too. Did I say no native resolution too? Must have forgotten that as well!

Justify budget? Cheap as hell LCD killer sounds better to me. I don't see where what I paid for it comes into play when we are talking about picture quality.

 

[0roo0roo]

34" sony? unless its super fine pitch its basically junk.

many of those wide screen crt tvs claimed hd resolution but couldn't resolve cr@p because of their coarse dot pitch

 

[amicold]

Originally posted by: AndroidVageta

Originally posted by: amicold

Originally posted by: AndroidVageta
In either case, my $150 34 inch Sony CRT can whoop anyone's 32 to whatever inch LCD on this forum hands down. Unless of course someone here has a 1,000,000:1 contrast ratio 120hz 2ms response time LCD...anyone? Didn't think so.

Good job trying to justify your lack of a budget to anyone. The only thing people can really note between an LCD and CRT is the black level and even that isn't bothersome on new LCDs.

OH I forgot to mention better color reproduction too. Did I say no native resolution too? Must have forgotten that as well!

Justify budget? Cheap as hell LCD killer sounds better to me. I don't see where what I paid for it comes into play when we are talking about picture quality.

You did mention native resolution previously in the thread though I'm too lazy to find it. The point is you didn't have the budget to buy something newer like, a flat panel LCD. You would not expend the time hunting down something HD on the cheap if that were the case. Nor would you make a forum post trying to make newer technology standards look like garbage.

 

[Oceanas]

Originally posted by: mchammer
People, it's not like you have to go and lift the tv 3 times a day.

I have an old 32" Sony WEGA CRT that was given to me by my parents a few years ago. It went upstairs at my first apartment, upstairs at my second apartment, and is now downstairs at my house. If I don't replace it before the next time I move, that damn thing is staying behind. It's slightly over 200 lbs., and there is almost nowhere to grip it without wearing gloves so your hand doesn't get cut up. It's just under 2 feet deep, and all of the weight is literally right at the screen.

 

[Geekbabe]

We have a 26 Panasonic Tau that's HD capable , the picture quality on that TV is awesome, my son has it in his room, also use it to game on. I can see no reason to get rid of it.

 

[theprodigalrebel]

Is it the 34" XBR400? Over 250 lbs IIRC? That was once considered BestTVever?

Should have a stunning picture. 'grats!

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: amicold

Originally posted by: AndroidVageta

Originally posted by: amicold

Originally posted by: AndroidVageta
In either case, my $150 34 inch Sony CRT can whoop anyone's 32 to whatever inch LCD on this forum hands down. Unless of course someone here has a 1,000,000:1 contrast ratio 120hz 2ms response time LCD...anyone? Didn't think so.

Good job trying to justify your lack of a budget to anyone. The only thing people can really note between an LCD and CRT is the black level and even that isn't bothersome on new LCDs.

OH I forgot to mention better color reproduction too. Did I say no native resolution too? Must have forgotten that as well!

Justify budget? Cheap as hell LCD killer sounds better to me. I don't see where what I paid for it comes into play when we are talking about picture quality.

You did mention native resolution previously in the thread though I'm too lazy to find it. The point is you didn't have the budget to buy something newer like, a flat panel LCD. You would not expend the time hunting down something HD on the cheap if that were the case. Nor would you make a forum post trying to make newer technology standards look like garbage.

no native res is no bonus if the dot pitch is so coarse that the "hd ready" sticker becomes meaningless. many of those widescreen crts sold near the end were 540p at best whether they claimed 1080i or whatever.

very very few, and basically only the sony super fine dot pitch got anywhere near having a good resolution. and that came at immense expense, so it couldnt compete. now even cheap lcds are 1080p.

 

[RedArmy]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

Originally posted by: amicold

Originally posted by: AndroidVageta

Originally posted by: amicold

Originally posted by: AndroidVageta
In either case, my $150 34 inch Sony CRT can whoop anyone's 32 to whatever inch LCD on this forum hands down. Unless of course someone here has a 1,000,000:1 contrast ratio 120hz 2ms response time LCD...anyone? Didn't think so.

Good job trying to justify your lack of a budget to anyone. The only thing people can really note between an LCD and CRT is the black level and even that isn't bothersome on new LCDs.

OH I forgot to mention better color reproduction too. Did I say no native resolution too? Must have forgotten that as well!

Justify budget? Cheap as hell LCD killer sounds better to me. I don't see where what I paid for it comes into play when we are talking about picture quality.

You did mention native resolution previously in the thread though I'm too lazy to find it. The point is you didn't have the budget to buy something newer like, a flat panel LCD. You would not expend the time hunting down something HD on the cheap if that were the case. Nor would you make a forum post trying to make newer technology standards look like garbage.

no native res is no bonus if the dot pitch is so coarse that the "hd ready" sticker becomes meaningless. many of those widescreen crts sold near the end were 540p at best whether they claimed 1080i or whatever.

very very few, and basically only the sony super fine dot pitch got anywhere near having a good resolution. and that came at immense expense, so it couldnt compete. now even cheap lcds are 1080p.

Like mine! Buy it now for the low price of $600. Acquire within.

 

[geno]

Originally posted by: AndroidVageta

Today I purchased a 34 inch Sony WEGA HD WIDESCREEN CRT television...for...wait for it...$150!!!

That's fair, but not a steal by any means. Enjoy the TV :thumbsup:

 

[zerocool84]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

Originally posted by: amicold

Originally posted by: AndroidVageta

Originally posted by: amicold

Originally posted by: AndroidVageta
In either case, my $150 34 inch Sony CRT can whoop anyone's 32 to whatever inch LCD on this forum hands down. Unless of course someone here has a 1,000,000:1 contrast ratio 120hz 2ms response time LCD...anyone? Didn't think so.

Good job trying to justify your lack of a budget to anyone. The only thing people can really note between an LCD and CRT is the black level and even that isn't bothersome on new LCDs.

OH I forgot to mention better color reproduction too. Did I say no native resolution too? Must have forgotten that as well!

Justify budget? Cheap as hell LCD killer sounds better to me. I don't see where what I paid for it comes into play when we are talking about picture quality.

You did mention native resolution previously in the thread though I'm too lazy to find it. The point is you didn't have the budget to buy something newer like, a flat panel LCD. You would not expend the time hunting down something HD on the cheap if that were the case. Nor would you make a forum post trying to make newer technology standards look like garbage.

no native res is no bonus if the dot pitch is so coarse that the "hd ready" sticker becomes meaningless. many of those widescreen crts sold near the end were 540p at best whether they claimed 1080i or whatever.

Hell my mom got a CRT TV that says HDTV on it and it's not widescreen and only does 480P lol.

 

[QueBert]

Originally posted by: geno

Originally posted by: AndroidVageta

Today I purchased a 34 inch Sony WEGA HD WIDESCREEN CRT television...for...wait for it...$150!!!

That's fair, but not a steal by any means. Enjoy the TV :thumbsup:

if it's the last generation CRT from Sony he got the deal of the century. The majority of so called "HD" CRT's blew chunks. But the final batch from Sony are easily on par with LCDs from today. Aside from the size and weight if he got a true 1080p CRT I'd say $150 is peanuts. I have all the room space in the world for a TV and if I actually wanted one I would almost kill somebody for one of these. Anybody who's seen it in person will attest to the quality of Sony's last stab at CRTs. 1080p with no lag, better colors and the best blacks? $150 is fucking KILLER I don't care if it's old

OP if you got the real deal 1080p I HATE YOU!

 

[dman]

Had a 27" Sony CRT (9yo) die on me on Friday. Was going to be $150 to fix it. I replaced it. That said, had it not died, I was happy to continue using it. LCD's suck for 4:3 content, which is mostly what we watch in that room / on that set. Oh well.

 

[Ackmed]

Originally posted by: Mo0o
Yeah totally!!! I picked up an awesome 56k modem just the other day. Now if you'll excuse me, I need to log off and make a phone call.

Heh, that was pretty funny.

 

[nerp]

The issue can be resolved by not watching TV.

 

[IHateMyJob2004]

Originally posted by: AndroidVageta
I love how this craze for "new" technology is making people rush out to get all these new electronics whilst getting rid of their old perfectly capable technology.

Today I purchased a 34 inch Sony WEGA HD WIDESCREEN CRT television...for...wait for it...$150!!! The seller while at his house showed me the new TV he was getting...a 32 inch 720p LCD...

I just find it funny how people think that just cause something is a few years old its just not worth anything anymore...this Sony just a few years ago was something like $1500. Rediculous!

Anyone else have any stories of getting "older" tech for extremely cheap due to dumb people?

I gave away my old 32" CRT to a contractor that has truly changed his life. Been in jail, etc and he truly is making a turnaround. The TV needed repair, he knew someone that could fix it. I gave it to him and have a new 42" plasma.

I've never been so worried about someone like him in my house (a the beginning) to only realize later that I would trust him with my children any day.

 

[nerp]

Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004

Originally posted by: AndroidVageta
I love how this craze for "new" technology is making people rush out to get all these new electronics whilst getting rid of their old perfectly capable technology.

Today I purchased a 34 inch Sony WEGA HD WIDESCREEN CRT television...for...wait for it...$150!!! The seller while at his house showed me the new TV he was getting...a 32 inch 720p LCD...

I just find it funny how people think that just cause something is a few years old its just not worth anything anymore...this Sony just a few years ago was something like $1500. Rediculous!

Anyone else have any stories of getting "older" tech for extremely cheap due to dumb people?

I gave away my old 32" CRT to a contractor that has truly changed his life. Been in jail, etc and he truly is making a turnaround. The TV needed repair, he knew someone that could fix it. I gave it to him and have a new 42" plasma.

I've never been so worried about someone like him in my house (a the beginning) to only realize later that I would trust him with my children any day.

Sometimes all someone needs is someone else to trust them and believe in them. Some people blow their second and third chances, but many others realize the opportunity for renewal.