Gotta love the MX-5

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speedy2

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This is like getting mad at a Corvette for gas mileage. Is gas mileage anywhere near the top reason people own a 2 door sports car?
 

PricklyPete

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This is like getting mad at a Corvette for gas mileage. Is gas mileage anywhere near the top reason people own a 2 door sports car?

I agree with you on that. While the possibility of the 50 mpg is fine...I'd much rather have a car that is fun to drive with decent power...otherwise the car will be much less fun. I hope to god they don't kick ass on the chassis and then fall short with crap for an engine.
 

speedy2

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Also, how about an S2000? 18 city/25 Highway. My LS1 Camaro got that with a pushrod V8 and plenty more weight. Is that to say the S2000 is crap because it had a 4 banger and gets that mileage? lol
 

Vette73

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This is like getting mad at a Corvette for gas mileage. Is gas mileage anywhere near the top reason people own a 2 door sports car?


Yea but a Corvette makes over 400hp and can still get the same milage.


Problem for the Miata and S2000 types is they don;t produce enough low end torque so you have to rev them more to move and eat gas. I take my "old" 350hp 01 Vette to 2500rpm and I am really moving. I cruze in the low 1000rpm range.
 

speedy2

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I know this. But, the Miata and S2000 aren't going to come with 5.7L V8's anytime soon. lol. And yes, I much preferred my Z28 cruising at 80 at about 1300 rpm. So nice.
 

Throckmorton

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It's about driving fun, not gas mileage. Who cares?

If you don't have one you don't know.

I had one and the shitty gas mileage annoyed me.

15 mpg (even the 18mpg stock) from my Cherokee also annoys me. The car world is full of small vehicles that get much worse mileage than their bigger and less aerodynamic siblings
 
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MiataNC

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My 2007 MX-5 could push 30mpg, but the little thing was so much fun to hammer around, I averaged 22-25mpg.
 

MiataNC

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What's purpose built about it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda_MX-5
The MX-5 was conceived as a small roadster – with light weight and minimal mechanical complexity limited only by legal and safety requirements; technologically modern, but a philosophically direct descendant of the small British roadsters of the 1960s such as the Triumph Spitfire, Austin-Healey Sprite, MG Midget and Lotus Elan.

Read the section "From idea to Production"
 

Throckmorton

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What's purpose built about it? It's a small, fun to drive car but it is NOT a hardcore purpose built racer. It's tame enough so that it generates enough sells to keep it alive so the average person will drive it.

"Fun to drive" implies a sporty car like the Del Sol or Celica. The Miata is a real sports car.
 

zerocool84

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda_MX-5


Read the section "From idea to Production"

"Fun to drive" implies a sporty car like the Del Sol or Celica. The Miata is a real sports car.

By what you guys are saying, that means tons of other cars can be considered purpose built sports cars. Sorry but when I think purpose built sports car, I think of something like an Elise that is not meant to be driven as a DD and would really suck as a DD. The average person can DD a car like a Miata. The average person cannot DD a car like an Elise. If the average person can DD, it is not a purpose built sports car. It can be a sports car but not a purpose built sports car. There's a large difference between the two.
 

Throckmorton

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By what you guys are saying, that means tons of other cars can be considered purpose built sports cars. Sorry but when I think purpose built sports car, I think of something like an Elise that is not meant to be driven as a DD and would really suck as a DD. The average person can DD a car like a Miata. The average person cannot DD a car like an Elise. If the average person can DD, it is not a purpose built sports car. It can be a sports car but not a purpose built sports car. There's a large difference between the two.

A purpose built sports car is supposed to be daily driven, that's the point. You're thinking of purpose built race cars.

Magnum drove Robin Masters's Ferrari 308GTS every day.
 

zerocool84

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A purpose built sports car is supposed to be daily driven, that's the point. You're thinking of purpose built race cars.

Magnum drove Robin Masters's Ferrari 308GTS every day.

No cus there's a difference between purpose built sports cars and purpose built race cars.
 

Silex

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"I can daily driver an Elise and so can you!" That would be my target line for Lotus' new line of commercials. Now hire me Lotus!
 
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zerocool84

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BTW, why can't you daily drive an Elise?

Anyone can drive anything daily if they want to but the average person wouldn't. You can DD a purpose custom built off-road Jeep with huge tires and lifted but no average person would want to. The average person can and does DD a Miata. Have you even been in a Elise??? One you have you'll know you won't want to DD it.
 

StageLeft

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i drive my elise daily and have roughly 12K on it as of now. i wish that i could tell a happy story about this car but in truth it has been a pain in the arse. the first thing i do when i get in the car is to clean the window of what the dealer aptly calls out-gassing. it seems the plastic dash emits a gas that fogs the windshield,hell,all the glass on the inside of the vehicle. the speaker covers have come off and only god knows how the hell to get em on. HVAC controls have fallen off. seat belt cover,at the anchor point,fell off, insulation on the soft top fell off the day i bought the car and drove it away. double sided weather stripping is slowly coming off the sill covers and continues to this day. inner fender wells have been replaced because i made the mistake of driving in snow. incidentally, the company refused to cover this error claiming the car was not designed to be driven in this kind of weather.
the lock-out for reverse,on recall,has yet to be repaired and the shifter has also been re-called due to weak material used to make it. front cover of turn signal has cracked and the multitude of windshield chips from road debris.
all i can say is do not buy this car unless you want to spend a significant amount of time taking it to the dealer. i am capable of fixing cars and have owned and re-built many early american muscle cars so i know my ****, mechnically speaking. i have and will continue to fix the **** that breaks. the question is, should a new car be such a pain in the ***?
as far as the agility and speed, the car rocks. nothing has been as fun as this machine but is it worth all the bull****?
i think not and i am gonna sue the company under the california lemon law to give me my money back. has anyone else suffered any of these symtoms i have mentioned? i would love to hear from others about problems suffered.
thanks for listening to my whining.
dave
Bolded for WTF. How healthy is that? Hot damn, don't drive unless the top is up eh?
 

kevman

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Yea but a Corvette makes over 400hp and can still get the same milage.


Problem for the Miata and S2000 types is they don;t produce enough low end torque so you have to rev them more to move and eat gas. I take my "old" 350hp 01 Vette to 2500rpm and I am really moving. I cruze in the low 1000rpm range.


 
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