Gov. Chris Christie in hot water over Bridge Scandal

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tamm

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I think it's surprising for democrats and republicans alike. Republicans since, the months leading up to the election were showing a clear and decisive win for the gov over the dem challenger buono. There wasn't really a reason why he needed to pull this stunt of his. For democrats it was shocking since Christe was one of the very few republicans even democrats like. He was a big threat for the presidential run of his uniform support from both parties unlike his predecessors. But I think this scandal dents his chances, and if nothing else comes out he can certainly recover. Lets wait and watch
 

senseamp

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I don't believe Christie is stupid enough to order this, but I also don't believe he's stupid enough not to know the order came out of his office until now, unless he explicitly didn't want to know. He is a former US attorney, you are telling me in 4 months, he couldn't get to the bottom of who ordered the bridge closings and why? I think he suspected his office was involved, but wanted plausible deniability, so instead of investigating it and rooting out the corruption, he stayed away and pretended it had nothing to do with him.
 

Nintendesert

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Now, could there be manslaughter charges against the staffers that ordered this since someone died waiting for help?
 

nageov3t

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Now, could there be manslaughter charges against the staffers that ordered this since someone died waiting for help?

no one died waiting for help.

are you talking about that 91 year-old woman? her family is on-record stating that she probably died in her home before anyone found her, they just couldn't declare her dead until the ambulance got to the hospital.

she suffered cardiac arrest, and survival rates are very, very low unless you're inside a hospital (or otherwise have someone literally standing right next to you who can do CPR... but I think most paramedics won't even bother with CPR for the elderly because you're just as likely to snap a rib off)
 

Linux23

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I read through some of the document dump from Friday. His Press Secretary should be fired ASAP also.

It's pretty clear none of the mid level PA people wanted to cross the NJ appointees even though they had deep reservations about the "study". The NJ guys went totally nuts when Patrick Foye called them on their bullshit. It is amusing to see the silence and attempts to stonewall the media grow as letters from local Congress members and press/FOIA requests started to pile up.

Yeah. LOL. Say nothing. I read them all. Good read.
 

Nintendesert

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no one died waiting for help.

are you talking about that 91 year-old woman? her family is on-record stating that she probably died in her home before anyone found her, they just couldn't declare her dead until the ambulance got to the hospital.

she suffered cardiac arrest, and survival rates are very, very low unless you're inside a hospital (or otherwise have someone literally standing right next to you who can do CPR... but I think most paramedics won't even bother with CPR for the elderly because you're just as likely to snap a rib off)



Ah I see, that's what I get for reading liberal rags. :$
 

HomerJS

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Look at this liberal outrage when a republican does something nowhere near as outrageous as all of Obama's scandals & lies. This is proof positive of the mental disorder that is liberalism. If you weren't so dishonest, you would have been calling for Obama's removal long ago. So.....you take one allegation against Christie and you've already held court and to you it's "off with his head". Might I suggest you start calling for the same for the ultra corrupt, like the president you so worship? You really are a disingenuous fucktard!

Excuse me but which one Of Obamas direct reports ordered up any scandel?
 

HomerJS

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To some extent, yes. Someone died as a result of the traffic deal. Several innocent Mexicans and one US border agent dies as a result of F&F. And 4 died as a result of major oversight incompetence in Benghazi. Christie fired the idiot that did the hit. Who's head rolled as a result of F&F or Benghazi?

Again, note that I am not using the 'S' word.

A policy that started when?? Also which one of Obamas direct reports ordered a hit on Benghazi?
 

Oldgamer

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Well Gov. Christie is now in hot water over that ad he ran using his family while he was campaigning. Apparently it is considered a campaign ad and not an ad to help New Jersey for making a come back. There are a ton of audits and poking around now, and I am sure something big is going to come out of all this. He is a micro-manager so you can't tell me he didn't know what they people who are directly under him were doing with the whole bridge shut down.
 

Matt1970

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Well Gov. Christie is now in hot water over that ad he ran using his family while he was campaigning. Apparently it is considered a campaign ad and not an ad to help New Jersey for making a come back. There are a ton of audits and poking around now, and I am sure something big is going to come out of all this. He is a micro-manager so you can't tell me he didn't know what they people who are directly under him were doing with the whole bridge shut down.

This is the ad. That is some stretch calling it a campaign ad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvEXkSSQkro
 

ivwshane

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Wow, the Democratic party must be afraid that Christie could garner independent/moderate vote should he win the GOP nomination in 2016 so it's an all out attack on him now.

Well yeah, even ann coulter thought he should have ran instead of Romney.

This is the ad. That is some stretch calling it a campaign ad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvEXkSSQkro

I agree. I say keep the searching to the bridge scandal and leave the fishing stuff to the republicans.
 

werepossum

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What did Chris Christie have for breakfast this morning?

Everything.

\there, even worse than a 3-year old.....
I dunno, I laughed.

LOL +1

Wow, the Democratic party must be afraid that Christie could garner independent/moderate vote should he win the GOP nomination in 2016 so it's an all out attack on him now.
Yeah, I have to admit that the Democrat response has actually made me like him more. However, then I imagine pairing this petty or lax behavior with Obama-level NSA scrutiny and that like evaporates like ice in Augusta in August.
 

fskimospy

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Wow, the Democratic party must be afraid that Christie could garner independent/moderate vote should he win the GOP nomination in 2016 so it's an all out attack on him now.

I agree, I think Christie could be a formidable general election candidate if he can survive the GOP primary without having to take too many insane positions. That being said, this issue shows that in this case at least, Christie was either petty and childish or so clueless that he didn't know that this deputy chief of staff was attacking a New Jersey town on his behalf.

Attacking him on this is surely political in nature but that doesn't mean it's wrong. This was a shitty thing to do.
 

woolfe9998

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People,people;All this is is the Dems kneecapping the opposition by digging up dirt/mudslinging.
I saw them do it to Herman Cain last election;They probably sent him pictures of his
grandkids @ recess.
Well;Christie's a pretty easy target

I find this overly dismissive. There appears to be some fire here along with the smoke. At the very least, Christie is guilty of poor judgment regarding the people he surrounded himself with. I've seen worse scandals than this, but the behavior in question is pretty bad. Actually, it's plain weird that anyone would do this and expect to get away with it.
 

werepossum

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What is this phenomenon you speak of? Ice...in August...in Augusta?

Strange you, you are.

You could come hang out on the Savannah and we'll see about this ice.
In the mint julips.

I find this overly dismissive. There appears to be some fire here along with the smoke. At the very least, Christie is guilty of poor judgment regarding the people he surrounded himself with. I've seen worse scandals than this, but the behavior in question is pretty bad. Actually, it's plain weird that anyone would do this and expect to get away with it.
I don't disagree, but the same could be said for Obama as well. It probably would be hard to name any executive-level politician for whom this did not apply.

The main thing that bothers me is the sheer pettiness and the willingness to inconvenience many other people to inflict a little political damage. Not unlike Fast-N-Furious, except nobody died here, but in some ways I can even understand Fast-N-Furious (accepting that some people will be killed to grease the path to your political goals) more than merely punishing someone for some imagined slight, whether refusal to endorse (which seems vastly unlikely to me but may well be true) or for holding up confirmation of executive nominations. (Hell, if that last were commonplace Obama would have half the interstates in the nation closed down for traffic studies.) It's always disturbing when politicians play politics, but doubly so when it's apparently so petty and with such widespread if minor collateral damage.
 

trenchfoot

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I'd still rather have Tubby-Tubby go up against Cankle Clinton than any of the other Repub front runners.....oh wait, there aren't any others at the moment.

But if you ask me, the folks who run the Repub Party must be dancing in their broom closets at the pitchfork and torch rallies presently being mounted against Christie. I really believe they hate Christie more than any Dem would.

As an independent, having either Christie or Clinton sitting behind the big desk at the White House is a win-win for me, considering whoever else is looking at running for the office at the moment.

I can picture Christie telling those Repub Party leaders to piss off and eat crap if they ever tried to control his personal agenda, unlike the compliant front man Bush was.
 

chowderhead

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Wow, the Democratic party must be afraid that Christie could garner independent/moderate vote should he win the GOP nomination in 2016 so it's an all out attack on him now.

In Nov. 2013, Chris Christie led the CNN national poll for the Republican nomination 17% to Paul Ryan's 16%. Back in 2007, Rudy Giuliani led the national polls for the Republican nomination 34% to McCain 18%. We saw how that turned out. Christie just does not have the right profile for a party that is weighted towards the midwest and south. Once he begins to open his mouth and say things like Dream Act, his polling will drop even further.
 

cubby1223

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HomerJS

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Perfect setup to talk serious political-payback business - a memorial event for 9/11 out in the open with dozens of random people in close proximity to hear everything said.

I'm sorry, this revelation is about as weak as they come. Please try again.

What part of "no contact" did you fail to comprehend??
 

nageov3t

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What part of "no contact" did you fail to comprehend??

honestly, it's a picture. there were probably hundreds of people there.

unless someone recalls seeing the two have a conversation or something, I'd give him a pass on simply being at the same public event together. the 9/11 memorial is obviously an event where you'd expect both the Governor and Port Authority officials to be at.
 
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