Gov. Chris Christie in hot water over Bridge Scandal

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brycejones

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Does "Time for some traffic problems in Fort Lee" sound like sarcasm to you? This is why you should be careful with humor in e-mails. Some people might think that you're serious.

Normally it would, but based on the evidence it sounds like the start of a very bad idea.
 

ivwshane

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So corruption in our government doesn't deserve a thread on P&N? What is it that actually failed? Sounds to me like the people involved will be going to court and may be held responsible for their actions, that sounds like a win to me.

It's not like the left needed christie to go down because of this because he was a strong presidential candidate, they didn't, his record as governor speaks for itself.
 
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Jhhnn

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I don't think Christie has a chance for the nomination- he's "not conservative enough" for the Tards & not trainable enough for the big money.

Righties do love themselves some strong pugnacious leadership, however. If they could come up with the right guy, Colbert's Rick Parry, they'd have the cult of personality they crave. If Putin were American, he'd be perfect.
 

WHAMPOM

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Does anyone believe underlings did this on their own? Take the hit for the big guy, yes. Do it all (six or more people conspired) and kept it a secret from a control freak boss? Idiot Gov or crooked GOV keep him out of any future office.
 

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Some people assume that the boss thinks the way they do and that they know what the boss wants and they pride themselves on getting things done without being asked. The chief of staff claims that she was being sarcastic when she e-mailed "Time for some traffic problems in Fort Lee" but her underlings took it seriously. If the chief of staff says to do it why bother asking the governor.
 

UberNeuman

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Some people assume that the boss thinks the way they do and that they know what the boss wants and they pride themselves on getting things done without being asked. The chief of staff claims that she was being sarcastic when she e-mailed "Time for some traffic problems in Fort Lee" but her underlings took it seriously. If the chief of staff says to do it why bother asking the governor.

Vindictive or Incompetent?

 

Perknose

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Some people assume that the boss thinks the way they do and that they know what the boss wants and they pride themselves on getting things done without being asked. The chief of staff claims that she was being sarcastic when she e-mailed "Time for some traffic problems in Fort Lee" but her underlings took it seriously. If the chief of staff says to do it why bother asking the governor.

That is just what they caught her writing down. Please, if your chief of staff wrote something so outrageously vindictive, you'd be sure to double and triple check with her as to whether this was what the governor wanted.

And, make no mistake, Christie wanted it. He has a looooong, well documented history of being vindictive and playing dirty. He's a pig and a bully. There's no more perfect way to describe him..
 

werepossum

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Some people assume that the boss thinks the way they do and that they know what the boss wants and they pride themselves on getting things done without being asked. The chief of staff claims that she was being sarcastic when she e-mailed "Time for some traffic problems in Fort Lee" but her underlings took it seriously. If the chief of staff says to do it why bother asking the governor.
I have no problem believing the underlings did it without higher knowledge. However - if it's not something ordered, it's at least something that all concerned were convinced was acceptable and even desirable. That's quite possibly worse for Christie;s reputation morally. While Christie might do something like this as an aberration, I judge it very highly unlikely that underlings would together do something like this as an aberration. One underling, maybe. Maybe. Several underlings together, that is the pervasive culture. No way several underlings get together and intentionally do something like this (vindictive but without any direct benefit to the boss or to themselves) knowing there will be hell to pay when the big guy finds out.

EDIT: I'm not overly concerned with this since I have a very low opinion of all politicians, but Christie's appeal to me was based solely on his being a pragmatic, non-partisan hardass who would do whatever was necessary for the people. This sends that up in smoke, leaving just another obnoxious, self-centered politician with whose positions I seldom agree.
 
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