Gov. Chris Christie in hot water over Bridge Scandal

[UberNeuman]

NEW JERSEY (AP)

The speculation has been that Governor Chris Christie ordered the shut down of the George Washington Bridge as political retaliation toward the Mayor of Fort Lee not supporting Christie in his bid for re-election, when in fact, it was retaliation at the George Washington Bridge for being unable to support Christie...

 

[MomentsofSanity]

NEW JERSEY (AP)

The speculation has been that Governor Chris Christie ordered the shut down of the George Washington Bridge as political retaliation toward the Mayor of Fort Lee not supporting Christie in his bid for re-election, when in fact, it was retaliation at the George Washington Bridge for being unable to support Christie...

/thread!

 

[Pray To Jesus]

NEW JERSEY (AP)

The speculation has been that Governor Chris Christie ordered the shut down of the George Washington Bridge as political retaliation toward the Mayor of Fort Lee not supporting Christie in his bid for re-election, when in fact, it was retaliation at the George Washington Bridge for being unable to support Christie...

:biggrin:

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

NEW JERSEY (AP)

The speculation has been that Governor Chris Christie ordered the shut down of the George Washington Bridge as political retaliation toward the Mayor of Fort Lee not supporting Christie in his bid for re-election, when in fact, it was retaliation at the George Washington Bridge for being unable to support Christie...

lol...but actually he's lost a lot of weight since his lap-band surgery.

 

[Moonbeam]

http://stream.wsj.com/story/latest-headlines/SS-2-63399/SS-2-430091/

More charges that 130 million request for Sandy aid turned into 130 thousand when a real estate deal wasn't approved by the locals.

 

[Jimzz]

http://stream.wsj.com/story/latest-headlines/SS-2-63399/SS-2-430091/

More charges that 130 million request for Sandy aid turned into 130 thousand when a real estate deal wasn't approved by the locals.

I think stuff like this happens more often than not. But if 1 or 2 come forward its passed off as someone butt hurt.

Now people like this one and others can speak and will be heard. Not surprised Christie has got outside council so quickly to help.

 

[blankslate]

http://swampland.time.com/2013/11/02/the-hunt-for-pufferfish/

Well looks like Gov. Romney's campaign found things in Gov. Christie's background that they thought could be harmful to the campaign if brought to light.

During the 2012 presidential campaign, Mitt Romney ranked Chris Christie among the final contenders to be his running mate. That is until the Republican nominee started digging into the New Jersey governor’s record

yeah if it was just one thing Gov. Christie could survive no problem. Now it's 3 things.

The Bridge.

Questions about how the advertising contract using relief funds was chosen.

A politically connected deal as a condition of relief funds.


Given the obliviousness of the average American eligible to vote Gov. Christie could still survive on a national level. But I think anyone who's local to the area probably has a sour taste in their mouths over these reports coming out.

 

[werepossum]

NEW JERSEY (AP)

The speculation has been that Governor Chris Christie ordered the shut down of the George Washington Bridge as political retaliation toward the Mayor of Fort Lee not supporting Christie in his bid for re-election, when in fact, it was retaliation at the George Washington Bridge for being unable to support Christie...

LOL!

http://swampland.time.com/2013/11/02/the-hunt-for-pufferfish/

Well looks like Gov. Romney's campaign found things in Gov. Christie's background that they thought could be harmful to the campaign if brought to light.

yeah if it was just one thing Gov. Christie could survive no problem. Now it's 3 things.

The Bridge.

Questions about how the advertising contract using relief funds was chosen.

A politically connected deal as a condition of relief funds.

Given the obliviousness of the average American eligible to vote Gov. Christie could still survive on a national level. But I think anyone who's local to the area probably has a sour taste in their mouths over these reports coming out.

To a great extent, this is politics. I do think it's particularly damaging to Christie given that he's built an image of being a straight-talking non-partisan non-politician politician. Now it's looking like he's not only just another politician, he's just another New Jersey politician. As you say, it may not sink him as a politician, but it has to dampen enthusiasm among his strongest supporters. For those who follow politics and liked Christie for being above the fray, that's pretty much done, leaving his appeal only on the strength of his politics.

 

[nageov3t]

http://stream.wsj.com/story/latest-headlines/SS-2-63399/SS-2-430091/

More charges that 130 million request for Sandy aid turned into 130 thousand when a real estate deal wasn't approved by the locals.

I'm tentatively waiting for receipts on this one. can't tell if it's just another disgruntled mayor jumping on the bandwagon because she didn't get everything she wanted; 130 million sounds like a lot to spend on a 1-square mile town, and I haven't heard much about any towns building preventative stuff like this for a once-in-a-generation type flood.

 

[blankslate]

can't tell if it's just another disgruntled mayor jumping on the bandwagon because she didn't get everything she wanted; 130 million sounds like a lot to spend on a 1-square mile town,

130 million may have been much but I can see it easily going above 10 million.

She got less than a million I believe.

I just heard on the radio that she is willing to go under oath to testify to authorities that she was relayed a message by a Gov. Christie representative from the Governor that the requested amount was contingent on the mayor approving that project he wanted.

*e2a*

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/17/n...ontinuing-toll-from-hurricane-sandy.html?_r=0

Hurricane Sandy inflicted an estimated $7 billion in damage on transit systems across the region. Harder to calculate is the toll on the economy leveled by commuter disruptions.


And perhaps no place has felt that impact more acutely than Hoboken. This city of 50,000 on the banks of the Hudson River thrives on its easy access to trains, buses and ferries into Manhattan. According to census surveys, an estimated 56 percent workers here use public transportation every day, surpassing New York City as the most transit-reliant community in the nation

But as the hurricane ripped through the region, seawater flooded half the city, and crippled the PATH station at Hoboken Terminal. Now, even as commuter services have returned to normal in much of the region, the station remains closed, severing a critical artery for workers traveling to and from Manhattan

It's a 1-square-mile town. with 50,000 people that's a lot of people in a small amount of space considering the damage to the wider area approaching $7 Billion.



I also heard someone who lived in Hoboken who was interviewed on the radio and talks about stores still being closed in the area from the Hurricane damage and how much of the town was flooded. I can edit it out and upload it.


Given the article and the producer's statements about Hoboken on the radio. $130 million is a high but not unreasonable estimate considering that public officials do tend to request as much money as possible.



If you read the article and it's details on how the damage to the transit hub in that area has affected the business in Hoboken one might think that $130 million is a stretch to request but the necessary funds could easily go into tens of millions of aid required to repair the city.


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[HomerJS]

LOL!


To a great extent, this is politics. I do think it's particularly damaging to Christie given that he's built an image of being a straight-talking non-partisan non-politician politician. Now it's looking like he's not only just another politician, he's just another New Jersey politician. As you say, it may not sink him as a politician, but it has to dampen enthusiasm among his strongest supporters. For those who follow politics and liked Christie for being above the fray, that's pretty much done, leaving his appeal only on the strength of his politics.

Christie is now accused of misappropriating federal funds which opens him up to criminal charges. Feds have begun inquiries.

 

[sportage]

Turning fast into another possible criminal act. One from which people could go to jail.
CNN calling this a case of she said she said.
A bit of a down play for CNN.
BECAUSE... one thing for sure that you can count on, if mayor Zimmer was bullied, no doubt she documented proof with recordings, emails and or documents.
No one makes allegations as this without hard proof.
THAT information, will only be shared with the investigators and not CNN or the media.
What she has as hard proof and what she is ready to tell investigators could be the nail in the coffin, the smoking gun, the end of Chris Christie.
We will not know, certainly not the media, for some time.
But the those doing the investigation(s)? They will know very soon.
As more comes out, one by one supporters and deniers will think twice.
It will prove a hard day for Christie and his conducting business as usual, whether that be the duty of governor or presidential aspirations, when this shit hits the media fan.
On that day, he will go down, and hard.
Like I have said all along, just another Richard Nixon Jersey style.

 

[CLite]

130 million may have been much but I can see it easily going above 10 million.

She got less than a million I believe.

I just heard on the radio that she is willing to go under oath to testify to authorities that she was relayed a message by a Gov. Christie representative from the Governor that the requested amount was contingent on the mayor approving that project he wanted.

*e2a*

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/17/n...ontinuing-toll-from-hurricane-sandy.html?_r=0


It's a 1-square-mile town. with 50,000 people that's a lot of people in a small amount of space considering the damage to the wider area approaching $7 Billion.



I also heard someone who lived in Hoboken who was interviewed on the radio and talks about stores still being closed in the area from the Hurricane damage and how much of the town was flooded. I can edit it out and upload it.


Given the article and the producer's statements about Hoboken on the radio. $130 million is a high but not unreasonable estimate considering that public officials do tend to request as much money as possible.



If you read the article and it's details on how the damage to the transit hub in that area has affected the business in Hoboken one might think that $130 million is a stretch to request but the necessary funds could easily go into tens of millions of aid required to repair the city.


....

As a resident I can say we did get raped by the storm, but mainly people's private insurance covered the cost and I'm not aware of any businesses still shut down due to Sandy. Of course we are getting raped by insurance. I know many people in Hoboken who own and I don't know of a single building that got payments from the insurance company that exceeded the sum of the last 10 years or so in premium charges. Our building barely had damages that exceeded what we pay for one year in premiums, even though this was supposed to be the worst storm in history...... fucking insurance companies.

I believe a lot of the money is for flood prevention measures and upgrades to the transit hub which affects the greater NJ/NYC area, although I haven't really been tracking it.

Interesting that she is willing to testify and take a lie detector test, I'm somewhat inclined to believe her. I was a fan of Christie, but the more I read the more I'm seeing he is the same old petty politician.

 

[Moonbeam]

I'm tentatively waiting for receipts on this one. can't tell if it's just another disgruntled mayor jumping on the bandwagon because she didn't get everything she wanted; 130 million sounds like a lot to spend on a 1-square mile town, and I haven't heard much about any towns building preventative stuff like this for a once-in-a-generation type flood.

I'm not a believer. I just reported what was in the news. I have no idea what the truth is. I wasn't there to witness any of the events of these charges and countercharges. I will await the results of the various investigations.

 

[trenchfoot]

I hear the betting line is open on whether Christie is going to lose a lot of weight from fretting over this incident or he's going to need much bigger skivvies by the time this all blows over from the worry binge that he'll engorge himself with.

My bet is he'll need to haul oxygen bottles along with all of those gut bomb meals he'll be pigging out on.

Too bad, I kind'a liked his style in that he wasn't someone's sock puppet.

 

[blankslate]

Wow, now Carl Lewis has come out of the woodwork to accuse and besmirch Governor Christie's name....

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ss...dal_puts_his_old_allegation_in_new_light.html

In 2010, Lewis began talks with Gov. Chris Christie’s administration about becoming the state’s “physical fitness ambassador” – a volunteer position that would have included a paid staff position for Lewis’s aide, Chris Walker. The discussions had gone well, Lewis said, and by the end of the year he had a meeting with Christie to talk about it.

In April 2011, word got out that Lewis — who grew up in Willingboro — was considering a run for state Senate as a Democrat against Christie’s friend, state Sen. Dawn Addiego (R-Burlington).

After Walker got concerned phone calls from a Christie aide, Lewis said he heard from Christie himself. “I thought it was going just fine. And when I started to run, when he talked to me on the phone that night, he said ‘If you run, we’re going to have to cancel the program,’” Lewis said.

Don't these people have any shame... first they manipulate Governor Christie's aides into closing down the bridge then they organize a "tick tock" schedule of people coming out one after another to slander this selflesh public servant's name.

Have they no shame?

Waggy was right... this opportunistic piling on has got to stop... it is downright sickening how a person who tried to be above politics is being dragged down by the envious mudslingers who will have nothing of it... and are just reaching for shit.



...

 

[chowderhead]

Wow, now Carl Lewis has come out of the woodwork to accuse and besmirch Governor Christie's name....

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ss...dal_puts_his_old_allegation_in_new_light.html

Don't these people have any shame... first they manipulate Governor Christie's aides into closing down the bridge then they organize a "tick tock" schedule of people coming out one after another to slander this selflesh public servant's name.

Have they no shame?

Waggy was right... this opportunistic piling on has got to stop... it is downright sickening how a person who tried to be above politics is being dragged down by the envious mudslingers who will have nothing of it... and are just reaching for shit.



...

Are you serious? Who manipulated Christie's top aides to order the closure of bridge lanes? If you believe Christie, he had no idea what is going on in his office when his top aides and former campaign manager is ordering the closure of bridge lanes. Whatever. He is a typical pay to play New Jersey style politician who got caught and is now feigning ignorance. That is not leadership and certainly not someone remotely who I want as President.

 

[HomerJS]

Wow, now Carl Lewis has come out of the woodwork to accuse and besmirch Governor Christie's name....

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ss...dal_puts_his_old_allegation_in_new_light.html

Don't these people have any shame... first they manipulate Governor Christie's aides into closing down the bridge then they organize a "tick tock" schedule of people coming out one after another to slander this selflesh public servant's name.

Have they no shame?

Waggy was right... this opportunistic piling on has got to stop... it is downright sickening how a person who tried to be above politics is being dragged down by the envious mudslingers who will have nothing of it... and are just reaching for shit.



...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kU9XwcOIfI

uugh-oh!

 

[HomerJS]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzsUnEY6htA

Saw that interview this weekend and I'm glad someone else noticed it. Don't know why the interviewer didn't ask him "why is it the mayor being a women relevant to the story?"

This was a dog whistle "the emotional irrational woman is lying about Christie"

No wonder the GOP image is getting more and more hostile to women.

 

[werepossum]

Wow, now Carl Lewis has come out of the woodwork to accuse and besmirch Governor Christie's name....

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ss...dal_puts_his_old_allegation_in_new_light.html

Don't these people have any shame... first they manipulate Governor Christie's aides into closing down the bridge then they organize a "tick tock" schedule of people coming out one after another to slander this selflesh public servant's name.

Have they no shame?

Waggy was right... this opportunistic piling on has got to stop... it is downright sickening how a person who tried to be above politics is being dragged down by the envious mudslingers who will have nothing of it... and are just reaching for shit.

...

I can totally understand that one. Why the hell would any governor intentionally give a platform to someone intending to use it as a political springboard for the other party?

Are you serious? Who manipulated Christie's top aides to order the closure of bridge lanes? If you believe Christie, he had no idea what is going on in his office when his top aides and former campaign manager is ordering the closure of bridge lanes. Whatever. He is a typical pay to play New Jersey style politician who got caught and is now feigning ignorance. That is not leadership and certainly not someone remotely who I want as President.

Dude, seriously, just . . . Just don't.

There's perhaps a fine line between sarcasm and truth. This is not that line. This is "I don't know what the hell you just used to bludgeon me about the head and shoulders, but it's certainly not going to derail my outrage." Please take "Remedial Human Communications" so that cleverly crafted yet blatant sarcasm does not disappear from our nation.

 

[blankslate]

I can totally understand that one. Why the hell would any governor intentionally give a platform to someone intending to use it as a political springboard for the other party?

From the article I linked previously

At the time, Christie spokesman Michael Drewniak acknowledged the governor talked with Lewis but denied he attempted to dissuade him from running.



“Absolutely, positively not. And anybody who says otherwise is lying," Drewniak told The Star-Ledger, though he did say Christie told Lewis "Well, I have to support my friend of 20 years." Referring to the fitness ambassador position, Drewniak said "I don't think Mr. Lewis is going to be running for office and doing this."



“He called me and asked me to get out of the race. I said I would stay in the race. Then he killed the program and used his secretary of state and attorney general’s office to get me out of the race,” Lewis said. “It’s a pretty clear parallel.”

Now if the Governor's position was "We'll keep the program running if you enter the race but we'll have to ask you to step down as spokesperson for the youth fitness program."

I'd agree more with your position.


By itself this story is meh.

Taken in light of the other factors Mr. Lewis's account appears to be part of an alleged pattern.



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[werepossum]

From the article I linked previously

Now if the Governor's position was "We'll keep the program running if you enter the race but we'll have to ask you to step down as spokesperson for the youth fitness program."

I'd agree more with your position.


By itself this story is meh.

Taken in light of the other factors Mr. Lewis's account appears to be part of an alleged pattern.

.....

Politically speaking he's safer ending the program than asking Lewis to step down.

 

[blankslate]

Politically speaking he's safer ending the program than asking Lewis to step down.

Maybe but considering that the lawyer who prosecuted Blagojevich is now looking into this, that might not be true now (although it may have made sense back then).

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

I said from the start Christie would never recover from this scandal.

He is a sinking ship at this point, the rats will start fleeing soon enough and then the whole deck of cards will just topple over. He has no chance against Hilary at this point, even if he miraculously kept his post as governor. Damage to credibility is done, say goodbye to the best GOP candidate.

 

[Linux23]

Best GOP Candidate?

God help us all.